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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: symonh2000 on 06 November 2022, 17:52

Title: Clutch pedal sticking on the way up
Post by: symonh2000 on 06 November 2022, 17:52
My car seems to have developed an issue with the clutch, i wasn't sure i was imagining at fiirst but occasionally the pedal would come back up about 90% and there would be a slight delay for the pedal to come back up the final bit.

Today I parked up outside the shop, and when I released the clutch after pulling up the pedeal stayed down slightly and I was able to pull up the last bit by hand.

The clutch seems fine in operation otherwise and the car has done 43,000 miles.

Is this a hydraulic issue developing?

If so I am going to sell it, I have just about had enough with it and the niggles. :(
Title: Re: Clutch pedeal sticking on the way up
Post by: Adam T7 on 06 November 2022, 18:08
I’m guessing it’s one of the hydraulic cylinders, wife’s Polo had a similar issue.
Can’t comment on the Golf but on the Polo there are two, one necessitated a gearbox removal (changed the clutch at the same time as it made sense)
Title: Re: Clutch pedeal sticking on the way up
Post by: symonh2000 on 06 November 2022, 18:33
That is what I was thinking, knowing my luck it will be the slave inside the bell housing.

The last time that I owned a Golf it was a 2001 V5 aound 12 years ago, and back then I had lots of issues with it.

I was hoping that things may have improved since then but judging my the faults I have had with my car that doesn't seem to be the case. :(

Back to BMW for me next time I think.
Title: Re: Clutch pedeal sticking on the way up
Post by: jaceyboy on 06 November 2022, 18:38
could be air, as normally when the slave goes which is inside the gearbox the clutch falls to the floor and wont come up, if yours is 90% up I would say have it bled first, our slave failed a few weeks back with only 25k on the clock, which cost £332.50 to fix
Title: Re: Clutch pedeal sticking on the way up
Post by: madstaff on 06 November 2022, 18:40
Did a Tiguan a while back with a similar issue where the pedal stayed down, changed the clutch master cylinder and it cured it.
Title: Re: Clutch pedal sticking on the way up
Post by: symonh2000 on 06 November 2022, 18:45
Thanks guys, i am fairly handy with a spanner so I am sure I could change the master cylinder. I take it that the slave is a concentric type?

I see both sorts listed for the GTI?

I don't fancy crawling about on the floor doing a clutch and concentric slave job myself though, especially at this time of the year.

The other thing that is bothering me is that I have a couple of 150 mile round trips planned this week. I hope it holds up...
Title: Re: Clutch pedal sticking on the way up
Post by: madstaff on 06 November 2022, 18:53
The master cylinder comes out with the clutch pedal from inside the car, removing the fluid feed pipe, slave cylinder feed and, IIRC, a 4 pin plug is done from the engine bay and a bit fiddly.

Slave is in the bellhousing.
Title: Re: Clutch pedal sticking on the way up
Post by: symonh2000 on 06 November 2022, 19:29
I have just been outside. I cannot see any leaks anywhere and the fluid level hasn't dropped.

A couple of years ago this happened to the clutch on my Mrs' Alfa. It was an LUK/Valeo and was fitted than 3 years and 18000 miles  previously.


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Title: Re: Clutch pedal sticking on the way up
Post by: symonh2000 on 06 November 2022, 19:30
On top of this issue I think the waterpump is leaking and the rear suspension is banging like a s**thouse door in the wind. :(
Title: Re: Clutch pedal sticking on the way up
Post by: symonh2000 on 07 November 2022, 13:10
I had the pedal almost stick to the floor on my drive today once in a 120mile around trip.

I don't really have the money to get it fixed at the moment, so it looks like it may have to go. :(
Title: Re: Clutch pedal sticking on the way up
Post by: jaceyboy on 07 November 2022, 13:15
Any fluid leaking under the engine tray? mine was slowly coming out and unfortunately it was, seems to be  a common fault as made of plastic
Title: Re: Clutch pedal sticking on the way up
Post by: symonh2000 on 07 November 2022, 15:01
I haven't really looked since last night. I will check later, I did make a mental note of where the fluid level was sitting.

If I do decide to get the spanners out is this kit any good?

https://www.awesomegti.com/shop-by-brand/sachs-performance/sachs-performance-clutch-kit-for-volkswagen-golf-mk7-gti/
Title: Re: Clutch pedal sticking on the way up
Post by: jaceyboy on 07 November 2022, 19:37
I never noticed a fluid drop in the top up, but it was dripping out of the gearbox and then onto the garage floor, some explode, some don't like mine and I was able to top it up and get it to a garage
Title: Re: Clutch pedal sticking on the way up
Post by: symonh2000 on 07 November 2022, 20:31
I did check again, I couldn't see evidence of a fluid drop or any leaks.

The pedal feels fine 99% of the time except for the random occasion that the pedal doesn't return fully. When I have had slaves go on other cars I have had problems with the clutch not disengaging, not so much a pedal not returning.

It is just a shame that the weather is so crap as it doesn't do my enthusiasm for fixing it much good.

But if I do the job I will be fitting uprated parts, so that the car is more remap friendly in the future. I have held off any modifications so far due to the clutches being a bit weak.

Title: Re: Clutch pedal sticking on the way up
Post by: madstaff on 07 November 2022, 20:57
I would be replacing the master cylinder at the clutch pedal first as its the easiest and cheapest option.

https://youtu.be/Gc-Hjx1Bsh0
Title: Re: Clutch pedal sticking on the way up
Post by: symonh2000 on 07 November 2022, 21:50
I think I will do that Madstaff. I will order one tomorrow.

Shall I go genuine for about £150 or get a Sachs, LUK, or Febi one for about £85?

I am guessing that Sachs or LUK would be the OEM
Title: Re: Clutch pedal sticking on the way up
Post by: madstaff on 07 November 2022, 22:13
I'm sure the master cylinder is nowhere near £150.

I seem to remember the genuine one I got from TPS was cheaper than that.
Title: Re: Clutch pedal sticking on the way up
Post by: symonh2000 on 07 November 2022, 22:21
I haven't checked with TPS yet as they are closed, that was the cheapest genuine one I found online.



I will give them a shout tomorrow as they are only down the road from my work.


Thank you for the help. :)
Title: Re: Clutch pedal sticking on the way up
Post by: madstaff on 07 November 2022, 22:32
I seem to recall it was around £85..........
Title: Re: Clutch pedal sticking on the way up
Post by: symonh2000 on 08 November 2022, 18:41
Master cylinder will be in on Friday.

The car has behaved pefectly today...
Title: Re: Clutch pedal sticking on the way up
Post by: madstaff on 08 November 2022, 19:03
Master cylinder will be in on Friday.

The car has behaved pefectly today...

How much did it cost in the end??
Title: Re: Clutch pedal sticking on the way up
Post by: symonh2000 on 08 November 2022, 19:58
£92 I think he said it was going to be.