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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: symonh2000 on 25 June 2022, 15:44

Title: Difficulties with brake pads
Post by: symonh2000 on 25 June 2022, 15:44
This is a bit of a moan really. I have been trying to get brake pads for my car. Twice I have ordered sets from previously trusted sellers on ebay, and twice they have arrived damaged due to insuffcient packaging.

This clip/sping thing could probably be straightened, but why should I need to?

Has anyone else had this, the clip thinging doesn't look praticularly robust.

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Title: Re: Difficulties with brake pads
Post by: golfdave on 26 June 2022, 08:29
So long as the spring clip hasn't torn through the rivet then I'd just bend back the spring clip.....annoying yes, but its not worth the hassle of waiting for it being collected again & a new set sent out...& most stuff like that is shipped out as packing free as possible...
Title: Re: Difficulties with brake pads
Post by: symonh2000 on 26 June 2022, 09:22
I think i will just try bending it back then. I don't think it is safety related as such, it looks to be there to prevent pad noises and rattles.

The previous set which I received had the clip broken off completely, so they certainly had to go back though.

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Title: Re: Difficulties with brake pads
Post by: madstaff on 26 June 2022, 17:21
It is, The small spring bracket is there to put a bit of pressure on the pad when fitted to stop the pad rattling about.
Title: Re: Difficulties with brake pads
Post by: Lordie on 27 June 2022, 12:17
I'm sure you already know, but it's very easy to return with eBay if you do have a problem. Sellers just don't add extra packing as it saves a tiny bit of money on every sale

I need new front discs and pads on mine so will look out for this. Out of interest, what type of pads are they? Not sure if I should try some different ones or not
Title: Re: Difficulties with brake pads
Post by: Catnapper on 27 June 2022, 12:27
Why ebay?
Why not ECP or the like, virtually the same price from what I recall & they package up properly iirc
Title: Re: Difficulties with brake pads
Post by: ub7rm on 27 June 2022, 12:41
If you can wait a week or so I've found Autodoc very competitive and you have much bigger range to choose from than ECP and its clones.  Only downside is things are shipped from Germany so no use for something super urgent. 
Title: Re: Difficulties with brake pads
Post by: symonh2000 on 27 June 2022, 14:11
Why ebay?
Why not ECP or the like, virtually the same price from what I recall & they package up properly iirc

I have had bad experiences with them in the past, and they are more expensive. They only seem to list Eicher, Pagid and Brembo for the PP GTI as well. The brembo which they sell are not all that good (Made in china by Alklied Nippon, and the Pagid are now one of their own brands. As for Eicher they are cheap sh*te.

I have a few sellers that I normally use on ebay and generally I haven't had any issues.
Title: Re: Difficulties with brake pads
Post by: symonh2000 on 27 June 2022, 14:13
If you can wait a week or so I've found Autodoc very competitive and you have much bigger range to choose from than ECP and its clones.  Only downside is things are shipped from Germany so no use for something super urgent.

I used them once for an EGR valve for my BMW. They sent the wrong item, and it was an absolute nightmare trying to return it. Even then I had to get Paypal involved for a refund.
Title: Re: Difficulties with brake pads
Post by: symonh2000 on 27 June 2022, 14:16
I'm sure you already know, but it's very easy to return with eBay if you do have a problem. Sellers just don't add extra packing as it saves a tiny bit of money on every sale

I need new front discs and pads on mine so will look out for this. Out of interest, what type of pads are they? Not sure if I should try some different ones or not

They are standard OEM replacement Textar. I have had them in the past on other cars and found them to be pretty good. I had an ebay voucher, and there was a 15% discount running on certain sellers so I got them for £33 all in. Normally they are around £50
Title: Re: Difficulties with brake pads
Post by: Lordie on 28 June 2022, 12:04
I'm sure you already know, but it's very easy to return with eBay if you do have a problem. Sellers just don't add extra packing as it saves a tiny bit of money on every sale

I need new front discs and pads on mine so will look out for this. Out of interest, what type of pads are they? Not sure if I should try some different ones or not

They are standard OEM replacement Textar. I have had them in the past on other cars and found them to be pretty good. I had an ebay voucher, and there was a 15% discount running on certain sellers so I got them for £33 all in. Normally they are around £50

Thanks for the reply. I assume mine are still OEM and I also find them very good so will probably stick with them.

I don't like Euro Car Parts. My local is useless and so are the people working there. Went in to collect a bottle of screen wash I bought online. 1 person serving and another just stood there doing nothing. To over 20 min just to get served. Another 10 minute waiting while he went to grab 1 bottle off the shelf (clearly was just messing around or just went for a break on his phone). Didn't even come back with the right item. Tried to give me a tiny 1L bottle instead of the large ones. Over 30 min just to get 1 item
Title: Re: Difficulties with brake pads
Post by: symonh2000 on 28 June 2022, 19:06
The OEM brakes are fine for normal road use.

The original pads are made by TRW I think (thats what is stamped on them).

But as the originals are about £125 for a set and these cost between £40 and £50 I had to get these instead. I have used Textars on a few cars and always found them at least as good as the OE stuff.

Allcarparts and ACE parts on ebay sell them, often you can get them on one of ebay's discounts too.
Title: Re: Difficulties with brake pads
Post by: clubsport on 28 June 2022, 19:17
Textar are a good quality brake pad, original equipment on many Porsche, over the years.
I recently bought a set of Textar pads (not for the GTi) from the same Ebay vendor & despite the flimsy packaging they arrived undamaged.
Title: Re: Difficulties with brake pads
Post by: joe6 on 29 June 2022, 09:30
Fitted brembo recently. Reasonable price and no excessive dust.
Title: Re: Difficulties with brake pads
Post by: symonh2000 on 29 June 2022, 12:08
I have heard bad things about Brembo recently, especially the ones supplied by Euro car parts.

Allegedly they are made in China by Allied Nippon who also make Comline Brakes.

I am happy with Textar, ATE, Jurid, TRW, and Mintex have been fine for me also.
Title: Re: Difficulties with brake pads
Post by: Watts on 29 June 2022, 12:45
This thread had me thinking about when I've changed brake pads, the answer was once in 18+ years and 160k+ miles! That covers the last three cars I've had, chances are it's only one set in the last 25 years or more! I think I need to give my cars a bit more welly....
Title: Re: Difficulties with brake pads
Post by: symonh2000 on 29 June 2022, 13:09
I get good mileage from my brakes too. On the current Golf though it has arrived with me with brake discs up front that are quite well lipped and could do with changing. The pads are about 2/3 worn but you can't really replace the discs and leave the pads.
Title: Re: Difficulties with brake pads
Post by: Ej1749 on 29 June 2022, 13:36
This is a bit of a moan really. I have been trying to get brake pads for my car. Twice I have ordered sets from previously trusted sellers on ebay, and twice they have arrived damaged due to insuffcient packaging.

This clip/sping thing could probably be straightened, but why should I need to?

Has anyone else had this, the clip thinging doesn't look praticularly robust.

(https://i.postimg.cc/05mGMHbN/DSC04424.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/rFk1SCrN/DSC04425.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/020pZMGR/DSC04428.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

I got some lovely fake EBC discs and red stuff pads from eBay. Very convincing until I used them
Title: Re: Difficulties with brake pads
Post by: symonh2000 on 29 June 2022, 13:57
The Textar ones come with a security code on a sticker sealing the box. If you enter the code on their website it will confirm that they are genuine.

I cannot see fake EBC brakes being much worse than the real thing. They are one brand I will not use due to previous bad experience.
Title: Re: Difficulties with brake pads
Post by: madstaff on 29 June 2022, 14:35
Cant beat the real deal from VAG in my experience.

They are a compound specifically tailored for that application, not just a pad that fits a multitude of MK7's with the same fitment.

A pad for a GTI could be different to the pad for an R estate for example due to the extra weight.
Title: Re: Difficulties with brake pads
Post by: symonh2000 on 29 June 2022, 17:20
It seems that I am having issues with brake discs too. They were bought together, ordered as a pair. The boxes are identical and so is the external part number on the box

Can anyone see what is wrong? Lol

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Title: Re: Difficulties with brake pads
Post by: clubsport on 29 June 2022, 21:26
I recently bought some Zimmerman discs and the coated ones came with a "coatZ" prefix after the part number.
Were they incorrectly boxed at the factory?
Title: Re: Difficulties with brake pads
Post by: symonh2000 on 29 June 2022, 21:31
I have no idea what happened, maybe one was from an earlier batch before they were all coated. The boxes were sealed.

As you can't buy single discs they will both be going back.