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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: AGB on 06 May 2022, 01:08
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Hey All
Wondering if anyone can recommend an OEM supplier of VW wheels? I'm looking to get a new 19" Pretoria in Silver and don't want to run the gamble of eBay and there seem to be a lot of 'Pretoria Style' wheels. I don't have the time or patience for a problem.
Local dealership quoted me £1080 for a wheel which seems pretty steep.
Be grateful for an indication of what reasonable prices are for OE - hard to judge based on searches due to a lot of the 'style' wheels versus OEM and as always, happy to support a retailer who sponsors the site if anyone can point me in the right direction.
Thanks!
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You’ll be lucky to find an OEM Pretoria for less than that I’d say. If you want good reps then I can highly recommend CM wheels, I have a set of the Reifnitz wheels and they’re brilliant. Can’t fault them at all. The only niggle is the slightly different size centre cap but not the end of the world. Might be worth a look.
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£1,000 or thereabouts is probably the current going rate for a brand new genuine 19” OEM Pretoria alloy for the Golf.
Best way to tell if a Pretoria advertised for sale is a genuine one or not is to ask to see the reverse side of the spokes to ensure the important identifying marks are there. The offset of a replica is also likely to be be slightly more aggressive than the offset of a genuine OEM Pretoria, and the OEM centre caps might not fit a replica Pretoria.
Bear in mind that OEM Prets were available for other VW models (e.g. T-Roc R, Passat) with a different offset to the Pretoria’s fitted to the Golf. There’s also an OEM 18” version that is available from VW’s accessories range, so it’s important to check that any Pretoria alloy advertised for sale had the correct part number and spec details for the Golf.
The genuine OEM 19” Pretoria for the Golf will include the following information stamped into the reverse side of the spokes;
VW Part no; 5G0601025AJ or 5G0601025CK
Size and offset; 8J x 19 ET50
Manufacturer - Borbet or BBS (probably Borbet, but BBS did make some of the early Pretoria’s for VW)
There’ll also be the VW logo, and (I think) a JWL test certification mark stamped into the back of the spokes.
I’m assuming you’re not interested in a refurbished alloy? If you are, always ask the seller to confirm it’s not suffered any structural damage / structural repairs. Also, the silver colour of the Golf’s Prets seems to be a difficult colour for many wheel refurb companies to get an accurate colour match on, so there’s a risk a refurbished wheel might not match the other wheels on your car.
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A vW dealer on eBay are selling a set of 4 for £1300
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A vW dealer on eBay are selling a set of 4 for £1300
Link?
At that price, if they’re OEM Prets it sounds as if they’re probably the 18” version. Also, I get the impression that @AGB is only looking for a single wheel, although if they are the genuine 19” (flow formed?) Pretoria’s for £1,300 then it’d be worth considering buying a set of four.
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Why not just run the T-Roc Pretorias like I did? £1,400 brand new from Volkswagen for a set of 4, only difference is they aren’t forged, which is a good thing as they’re less likely to buckle and they’re et45 which saves you from fitting 5mm spacers.
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VW in St Andrews is selling some 18s at 1400 but with new premium contact 6 tyres so that’s under 1k for the wheels themselves.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324926590219?hash=item4ba7224d0b:g:Cm0AAOSwysBgkQ0a
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If you only want one wheel, and it needs to be genuine 19 inch for Golf, this one works out a couple of hundred cheaper than the dealer.
Be warned though they don't accept returns.
https://www.ebay.de/itm/192541794539?fits=Year%3A2019%7CMake%3AVW&hash=item2cd462a0eb:g:daUAAOSwc~5a-98R
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Those 18"'s from St Andrews are the ones I'm considering in gloss black, keep meaning to ring my local dealer just to see what they want for a set of 18's from the accessory catalogue.
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You’ll be lucky to find an OEM Pretoria for less than that I’d say. If you want good reps then I can highly recommend CM wheels, I have a set of the Reifnitz wheels and they’re brilliant. Can’t fault them at all. The only niggle is the slightly different size centre cap but not the end of the world. Might be worth a look.
Thanks but not interested in reps, never really been of appeal but I am replacing a wheel that has been damaged and will get the damaged one refurbished and use as a spare or winter wheel. If I am not doing OE, it's BBS or Racing Line. But I'll take a look at CM Wheels now that I know about them. Appreciate the advice.
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£1,000 or thereabouts is probably the current going rate for a brand new genuine 19” OEM Pretoria alloy for the Golf.
Best way to tell if a Pretoria advertised for sale is a genuine one or not is to ask to see the reverse side of the spokes to ensure the important identifying marks are there. The offset of a replica is also likely to be be slightly more aggressive than the offset of a genuine OEM Pretoria, and the OEM centre caps might not fit a replica Pretoria.
Bear in mind that OEM Prets were available for other VW models (e.g. T-Roc R, Passat) with a different offset to the Pretoria’s fitted to the Golf. There’s also an OEM 18” version that is available from VW’s accessories range, so it’s important to check that any Pretoria alloy advertised for sale had the correct part number and spec details for the Golf.
The genuine OEM 19” Pretoria for the Golf will include the following information stamped into the reverse side of the spokes;
VW Part no; 5G0601025AJ or 5G0601025CK
Size and offset; 8J x 19 ET50
Manufacturer - Borbet or BBS (probably Borbet, but BBS did make some of the early Pretoria’s for VW)
There’ll also be the VW logo, and (I think) a JWL test certification mark stamped into the back of the spokes.
I’m assuming you’re not interested in a refurbished alloy? If you are, always ask the seller to confirm it’s not suffered any structural damage / structural repairs. Also, the silver colour of the Golf’s Prets seems to be a difficult colour for many wheel refurb companies to get an accurate colour match on, so there’s a risk a refurbished wheel might not match the other wheels on your car.
All good advice, thank you. As background, I'm just swapping a wheel that got damaged with a pothole impact and am going to get it refurbished and have that as a spare. Given the car, I want to keep OE wheels and all the others are in perfect condition. Dealing with a claim with the local council who quickly tried to dismiss despite having dashcam video evidence, photographs of the hole and so forth. They changed their tune when I sent a lawyer's letter.
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Why not just run the T-Roc Pretorias like I did? £1,400 brand new from Volkswagen for a set of 4, only difference is they aren’t forged, which is a good thing as they’re less likely to buckle and they’re et45 which saves you from fitting 5mm spacers.
3G0071499 2ZT
Yeah, I'm dealing with a buckled wheel due to pothole damage as I said to SRGTD so this is a good thought. Assume they come in 19?
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If you only want one wheel, and it needs to be genuine 19 inch for Golf, this one works out a couple of hundred cheaper than the dealer.
Be warned though they don't accept returns.
https://www.ebay.de/itm/192541794539?fits=Year%3A2019%7CMake%3AVW&hash=item2cd462a0eb:g:daUAAOSwc~5a-98R
Thanks for the tip, have you dealt with them?
Interesting, a friend in the US with a 7.5R said his cost him US$785.00 (same part number) which prompted my initial post. Thanks for the advice.
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VW in St Andrews is selling some 18s at 1400 but with new premium contact 6 tyres so that’s under 1k for the wheels themselves.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324926590219?hash=item4ba7224d0b:g:Cm0AAOSwysBgkQ0a
Thanks but I'm after 19". Might have been an option before I bought these for winter: https://www.racingline.com/cup-wheels If you're after 18s, they're a great choice.
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£1,000 or thereabouts is probably the current going rate for a brand new genuine 19” OEM Pretoria alloy for the Golf.
Best way to tell if a Pretoria advertised for sale is a genuine one or not is to ask to see the reverse side of the spokes to ensure the important identifying marks are there. The offset of a replica is also likely to be be slightly more aggressive than the offset of a genuine OEM Pretoria, and the OEM centre caps might not fit a replica Pretoria.
Bear in mind that OEM Prets were available for other VW models (e.g. T-Roc R, Passat) with a different offset to the Pretoria’s fitted to the Golf. There’s also an OEM 18” version that is available from VW’s accessories range, so it’s important to check that any Pretoria alloy advertised for sale had the correct part number and spec details for the Golf.
The genuine OEM 19” Pretoria for the Golf will include the following information stamped into the reverse side of the spokes;
VW Part no; 5G0601025AJ or 5G0601025CK
Size and offset; 8J x 19 ET50
Manufacturer - Borbet or BBS (probably Borbet, but BBS did make some of the early Pretoria’s for VW)
There’ll also be the VW logo, and (I think) a JWL test certification mark stamped into the back of the spokes.
I’m assuming you’re not interested in a refurbished alloy? If you are, always ask the seller to confirm it’s not suffered any structural damage / structural repairs. Also, the silver colour of the Golf’s Prets seems to be a difficult colour for many wheel refurb companies to get an accurate colour match on, so there’s a risk a refurbished wheel might not match the other wheels on your car.
All good advice, thank you. As background, I'm just swapping a wheel that got damaged with a pothole impact and am going to get it refurbished and have that as a spare. Given the car, I want to keep OE wheels and all the others are in perfect condition. Dealing with a claim with the local council who quickly tried to dismiss despite having dashcam video evidence, photographs of the hole and so forth. They changed their tune when I sent a lawyer's letter.
If council are at fault you are entitled to be put back into the same position prior to damage, so, just get a brand new wheel from VW, same spec tyre, keep all the invoices and claim the costs back.
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If you only want one wheel, and it needs to be genuine 19 inch for Golf, this one works out a couple of hundred cheaper than the dealer.
Be warned though they don't accept returns.
https://www.ebay.de/itm/192541794539?fits=Year%3A2019%7CMake%3AVW&hash=item2cd462a0eb:g:daUAAOSwc~5a-98R
Thanks for the tip, have you dealt with them?
Interesting, a friend in the US with a 7.5R said his cost him US$785.00 (same part number) which prompted my initial post. Thanks for the advice.
Sorry, no. Haven't dealt with them. Always worth having a look on German ebay though for VW stuff if you can't find what you want in the UK.
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Why not just run the T-Roc Pretorias like I did? £1,400 brand new from Volkswagen for a set of 4, only difference is they aren’t forged, which is a good thing as they’re less likely to buckle and they’re et45 which saves you from fitting 5mm spacers.
3G0071499 2ZT
Yeah, I'm dealing with a buckled wheel due to pothole damage as I said to SRGTD so this is a good thought. Assume they come in 19?
They're only 19 but only also come in matte grey. With this in mind you'd need to run two on the rear and then you'd have a staggered set of pretorias as well as refurbish two to colour match.
Either way I'd look into the price of two just as an option.
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£1,000 or thereabouts is probably the current going rate for a brand new genuine 19” OEM Pretoria alloy for the Golf.
Best way to tell if a Pretoria advertised for sale is a genuine one or not is to ask to see the reverse side of the spokes to ensure the important identifying marks are there. The offset of a replica is also likely to be be slightly more aggressive than the offset of a genuine OEM Pretoria, and the OEM centre caps might not fit a replica Pretoria.
Bear in mind that OEM Prets were available for other VW models (e.g. T-Roc R, Passat) with a different offset to the Pretoria’s fitted to the Golf. There’s also an OEM 18” version that is available from VW’s accessories range, so it’s important to check that any Pretoria alloy advertised for sale had the correct part number and spec details for the Golf.
The genuine OEM 19” Pretoria for the Golf will include the following information stamped into the reverse side of the spokes;
VW Part no; 5G0601025AJ or 5G0601025CK
Size and offset; 8J x 19 ET50
Manufacturer - Borbet or BBS (probably Borbet, but BBS did make some of the early Pretoria’s for VW)
There’ll also be the VW logo, and (I think) a JWL test certification mark stamped into the back of the spokes.
I’m assuming you’re not interested in a refurbished alloy? If you are, always ask the seller to confirm it’s not suffered any structural damage / structural repairs. Also, the silver colour of the Golf’s Prets seems to be a difficult colour for many wheel refurb companies to get an accurate colour match on, so there’s a risk a refurbished wheel might not match the other wheels on your car.
All good advice, thank you. As background, I'm just swapping a wheel that got damaged with a pothole impact and am going to get it refurbished and have that as a spare. Given the car, I want to keep OE wheels and all the others are in perfect condition. Dealing with a claim with the local council who quickly tried to dismiss despite having dashcam video evidence, photographs of the hole and so forth. They changed their tune when I sent a lawyer's letter.
If council are at fault you are entitled to be put back into the same position prior to damage, so, just get a brand new wheel from VW, same spec tyre, keep all the invoices and claim the costs back.
Council are at fault. Getting the money out of them is proving to be fun. I half expect them to pay me in 2p pieces at this rate having looking at their financials.
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Quick update. Turns out VW dealer was the cheapest and easiest place to buy an authentic wheel. Or rather the least likely route to have a complete nightmare with returns!