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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: marley on 08 April 2022, 12:32
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Grrrrr!
The above suddenly came on my car the other day,
Is it just simply a case of removing the grill, and looking to see if there is anything obviously wrong (ie loose etc!) with the sensor, or does it need a "proper looking at"!?
It just came on as I was driving a few days ago. Been in the car a fair few times since, the "fault" hasnt magically turned itself off...........unfortunately!
Thanks in advance.
( Im "assuming"! the sensor is behind the VW badge on the plastic grill at the front of the car?!) Ive given the "badge" a wipe over with a wet wipe, the car isnt particularly dirty either?!
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Did it go away after the next time you started the car?
If so, its just a transient gremlin problem.
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Did it go away after the next time you started the car?
If so, its just a transient gremlin problem.
Thanks for that..
It didnt go off no...it came on a few days ago, been in the car a fair few times since then..its still "on"! in yellow not red if that makes any difference?!
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The "funny"! thing is, when I was driving the car which this one replaced ! (that was a 2018 manual GTI...I only swapped it as I wanted an auto!) to the dealers (other side of the country) in torrential rain, the same fault came on the other car?! Luckily though, that fault went off after about15-30 minutes of driving.
Not so lucky on this car though, as its stayed on!
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I would run a Vag com or OBdeleven system scan, try to clear any codes, failing that disconnect the battery for 15 minutes or so, then re clear any fault codes that appear.
Good luck.
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Thanks for that.
Looks like Im on the hunt for an OBD Eleven then!
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Thanks for that.
Looks like Im on the hunt for an OBD Eleven then!
Wow!
That was quick! I ordered an OBD 11 yesterday from OBD.com...its just arrived!
Watching the football now, will have a play about later on (will look on youtube forst to see what I need to do lol!)!
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Well that was fun........NOT! lol!
First of all. Man United got yet another battering.
Then when I went to try to sort out the fault on the car? I ran a scan with the OBD Eleven Pro. It showed one fault. The one I already knew about, It said to reset it...I tried many many times, it said success, yet the fault still remained, OK so I thought, Id disconnect the battery next, Did that for about 25 minutes.
Then , when I re connected the battery? The damn dash lit up like a Christmas tree! Millions of faults, I tried to clear them all with the OBD Lots did get cleared, I thought I will see what it drives like, went for a quick spin, lots more faults got cleared?! I then plugged the OBD back in, lots of other faults got cleared, just left me with 4! faults with the ACC. Eventually got those 4 faults down to the one fault...of course it was the one I had in the beginning! When I went to "clear" the fault a green tick came up on my phone to say success...alas it still stays on the screen though...Saying cruise control sensor mis adjusted? Maybe its just a case of the sensor, needing "pushing back in place"?! If so! Is it the one behind the VW badge on the grill please?
I had a similar problem with a C Class Mercedes Benz I bought during lockdown. I bought it online and had it delivered, (they picked up my car in part ex at the same time) It was driving great, then suddenly , a fault came up on the dash, pretty similar to the fault on this Golf! Long story short, I bought the car from MB in Stoke. the said to get the car back to them, or to take it to my local dealers.i did (as Im near Cardiff so a long distance away!_I took it to the Cardiff Mercedes Benz dealer....they had it for a few hours. said it had been involved in an accident?!! It hadnt! and that it needed a new sensor and a new wiring loom?!
I said no thanks, got back in touch with MB in Stoke, he said utter nonsense! They would get me a car sent down to me, while they fixed my car. Next week, they delivered me a lovely A Class, llovely and very fast! Then they drove it back to Stoke. A couple of hours later, I was walking the dog, had a phone call....from Stoke! Ah I thought, thats the dealers telling me the car has been received...It was...But...they were phoning me to tell me they had fixed it!!
Basically, it was just a loose sensor, which they just clicked back in! 5 Minute job!! I did like the car (automatic all the toys) but the experience really soured it for me...so I traded that in for my First Golf GTI ! Tornado red, manual,...I loved it ...but missed having an auto.....which is why Ive got the GTI I have now!! Sorry for rambling on!!
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The car hasn't been lowered has it?
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marley, the Xmas tree / disco dash scenario on reconnecting the battery is normal, the fact that everything else cleared is a good thing!
Other than checking all connectors are secure, the acc system is a bit beyond the scope of the average home mechanic?
There is an obdeleven forum where you can post questions relating to the code you have found, worth a shot?
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The car hasn't been lowered has it?
Not as far as Im aware no?
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marley, the Xmas tree / disco dash scenario on reconnecting the battery is normal, the fact that everything else cleared is a good thing!
Other than checking all connectors are secure, the acc system is a bit beyond the scope of the average home mechanic?
There is an obdeleven forum where you can post questions relating to the code you have found, worth a shot?
Ah thats good to hear! (about battery re-connection I mean!).
Im not even an average home mechanic.much worse! lol! Thats what mean, just to see if anything obvious (loose/dirty etc!) with the sensor.
I will have to check out the obd eleven forum.
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Worth checking if there has been a software update for the front assist/ACC from vw. A fault on my stop/start (2019 golf 7.5) eventually was due to software update not done. There was a tpi not actioned!
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Worth checking if there has been a software update for the front assist/ACC from vw. A fault on my stop/start (2019 golf 7.5) eventually was due to software update not done. There was a tpi not actioned!
Thanks for that.
Sorry to be stupid! How would I find that out please?
Cheers.
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Local vw dealership or vw customer service should be able to tell you if there has been a software update related to front assist for the car. May need the vin to check. Mine was found by the vw roadside assistance when I called them out for a different fault. The techie did a scan with his diagnostic software.
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Quick "update"! on this..
i was away for a couple of weeks, got back last week. Ive contacted VW , to see if there are any software updates, re. front assist, they said to contact local dealer...i contacted 2, neither replied!
I did take the badge off, to see if there was anything "obvious"....there wasn't! Upshot is, Ive today booked it into a VW Indy specialist.............only trouble is....it isn't until June 1st!
From looking online, it seems as if it may need re calibrating? It appears its quite a common...ish! problem. It can need re calibrating (the radar sensor I assume that is!) for a variety of reasons?
I hope it can get sorted, and it does'nt cost too much!
Will report back (next Month!) with the results!
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Quick "update"! on this..
i was away for a couple of weeks, got back last week. Ive contacted VW , to see if there are any software updates, re. front assist, they said to contact local dealer...i contacted 2, neither replied!
I did take the badge off, to see if there was anything "obvious"....there wasn't! Upshot is, Ive today booked it into a VW Indy specialist.............only trouble is....it isn't until June 1st!
From looking online, it seems as if it may need re calibrating? It appears its quite a common...ish! problem. It can need re calibrating (the radar sensor I assume that is!) for a variety of reasons?
I hope it can get sorted, and it does'nt cost too much!
Will report back (next Month!) with the results!
One reason for recalibrating is after a wheel realignment.
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If not under warranty, ask Vw how much a calibration is ?
I heard over £300. If true, there are companies that come to you with the equipment. I think we paid £180 at work a couple of months ago. If you are near to Leighton Buzzard in Bedfordshire, I can give you the companies details
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If not under warranty, ask Vw how much a calibration is ?
I heard over £300. If true, there are companies that come to you with the equipment. I think we paid £180 at work a couple of months ago. If you are near to Leighton Buzzard in Bedfordshire, I can give you the companies details
Thanks for that.
The garage Im going to use (which seems to be well recommended for VW Audi etc.) have the equipment. So if it needs doing, which it probably does! they will be able to do it. Ive seen VW Retro fit in Redditch, about 2 hours from me, do it for £130.
I didn't get it from a VW main dealer...
IF it does need re calibrating, it will have to be done. god knows what caused it to need it though! Saying that, plenty of pot holes and speed bumps near me!
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Tbh the MK7.5 with it behind the badge doesn't need calibration very often... Unless the front end has been off...
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Tbh the MK7.5 with it behind the badge doesn't need calibration very often... Unless the front end has been off...
Hmmn!
I dont know whether that's good or bad news!?
May be "good" news in that it can be "re-set" via diagnostics ?, or "bad" news if its something worse and more expensive?!
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No it can be realigned, but what I'm saying is that maybe someone has dismantled the front end of the car... Ie crash repair
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No it can be realigned, but what I'm saying is that maybe someone has dismantled the front end of the car... Ie crash repair
Ah OK!
I see what you mean, Ive not had the car long, drives great, just annoying with the fault lights lit up!
I think Im "hoping" it needs re aligning/calibrating ...as maybe that would be the easiest/quickest/cheapest! fix.
I drove it home for about 4 hours, then drove it for a fair few weeks, then out of the blue, as Im driving the damn fault lights came up!!
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Quick "update"! on this..
i was away for a couple of weeks, got back last week. Ive contacted VW , to see if there are any software updates, re. front assist, they said to contact local dealer...i contacted 2, neither replied!
I did take the badge off, to see if there was anything "obvious"....there wasn't! Upshot is, Ive today booked it into a VW Indy specialist.............only trouble is....it isn't until June 1st!
From looking online, it seems as if it may need re calibrating? It appears its quite a common...ish! problem. It can need re calibrating (the radar sensor I assume that is!) for a variety of reasons?
I hope it can get sorted, and it does'nt cost too much!
Will report back (next Month!) with the results!
One reason for recalibrating is after a wheel realignment.
it would need to be major re alignment adjustments to make the acc not work. General wheel alignment doesn't require the acc to be recalibrated.
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Quick "update"! on this..
i was away for a couple of weeks, got back last week. Ive contacted VW , to see if there are any software updates, re. front assist, they said to contact local dealer...i contacted 2, neither replied!
I did take the badge off, to see if there was anything "obvious"....there wasn't! Upshot is, Ive today booked it into a VW Indy specialist.............only trouble is....it isn't until June 1st!
From looking online, it seems as if it may need re calibrating? It appears its quite a common...ish! problem. It can need re calibrating (the radar sensor I assume that is!) for a variety of reasons?
I hope it can get sorted, and it does'nt cost too much!
Will report back (next Month!) with the results!
One reason for recalibrating is after a wheel realignment.
it would need to be major re alignment adjustments to make the acc not work. General when alignment doesn't require the acc to be recalibrated.
Cheers for that..So are you saying its not likely to be a calibration issue?
I guess it could be a number of things! Im hoping its a cheap and easy fix lol!
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If not under warranty, ask Vw how much a calibration is ?
I heard over £300. If true, there are companies that come to you with the equipment. I think we paid £180 at work a couple of months ago. If you are near to Leighton Buzzard in Bedfordshire, I can give you the companies details
Last Year I asked VW how much alignment and a re calibration was and they quoted £289+VAT so I went over to Mr Tyre 100yds away and they told me they do it for £69 including re calibration and they also said the dealer gets them to do the job for them as well.
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The car hasn't been lowered has it?
Does/can that affect it? I have had mine lowered 25mm front and rear and 50k+ miles later still no issues. I have heard that messing with the front bumper when having it re-sprayed or removed etc, can cause problems and someone had a serious accident because of a repair job and didn't re-calibrate it - insurance didn't pay out. My local painter who has been around for years and is the best in the area said he wouldn't touch my front bumper, but would do the bonnet and the arches based on my own safety. He advised me to go to VW to have the bumper done and get a re-calibration certificate, but VW painters are crap.
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Of course lowering will effect it.... its a precision piece of kit placed at an exact height from the road surface.
You also can run into problems if you have a towbar fitted.
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As promised!
An update! Well today was the day.I took it to "get it sorted".
Result is...job done! Basically it needed a clean? The badge that is! Ive read online, that for sensors radar etc. to work properly, obviously a clear view is essential. My cars are never really that dirty anyway, I did though. of course, wash wipe clean the outside of the VW badge on the bonnet, behind which sits the radar sensor thingy.
It turns out? The inside of the badge needs to be cleaned too! It was news to me, (some on here may already know this).
I was sent a video of what was carried out etc, and the tolerances of the calibration etc....bit like rocket science to the dummy writing this report to be honest!
He said there are 2 calibrations? (or something like that!) one was withing tolerance, the other wasnt. He said for them to need re calibration, usually needs something to have happened to the car eg. lowering, bumps etc etc (as has been already suggested on here...many thanks all!),
End result was, the inside of the badge was cleaned. Put back through diagnostics etc. Then taken out for a test run, with laptop attached etc. to see all was well,(was shown the front assist in operation with the A.C.C all working fine)....Thankfully it was!
Oh, it also showed it needed a new battery for the key too! A few other minor historic faults, which were all cleared etc.
I was well happy, good price I thought too. I used a specialist VAG garage....was very impressed with them.
They gave me a printout of the "numbers"! etc of the front assist/ACC etc...As I say, it was all over my head! Im just well chuffed its all fine now!
Many thanks to all who gave me advice on this thread.
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Very useful, thanks marley, glad you got it sorted. I found this video on how to remove the cover: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=POcLARyGikw
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Very useful, thanks marley, glad you got it sorted. I found this video on how to remove the cover: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=POcLARyGikw
I have actually seen that video! (when I was googling how to gain access to the radar.
I got it off easily enough. I didn't even think about cleaning the inside of the badge to be honest!
In hindsight though? It makes perfect sense!
I wanted to "have a look" at the radar sensor thingy, to see if anything was obviously broken....there wasnt!
I'm just chuffed to get the car back working fine for a decent price!
I had visions of needing a new "radar" sensor....did a quick google for them....they werent cheap at all!
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Nice one marley.
Sounds like you are happy with the VW specialist so give them a mention? :smiley:
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Nice one marley.
Sounds like you are happy with the VW specialist so give them a mention? :smiley:
Sounds good to me! Wasn't sure if it was allowed?!
They are Euro Performance, in Llantrisant , South Wales. (very close to the Royal Mint!).
Ive seen them recommended on other forums, and they have great feedback elsewhere too.
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That's great news Marley!
Glad you got it fixed and it's useful to tell everyone on here how the problem was discovered.
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That's great news Marley!
Glad you got it fixed and it's useful to tell everyone on here how the problem was discovered.
Cheers for that!
It was really "bugging me"! I wanted it fixed, but was worried it would cost a lot of money!
Luckily it wasnt! I still cant believe, why I didnt think of cleaning the damn inside! of the badge covering the Radar sensor!
Though saying that?
I assume even if I had managed to clean the inside of the badge, the car would probably have to be "scanned" etc. to remove the faut? I was charged £108 (including VAT) .
Im very hapy though, that the car has gone through a "thorough scanning"! on proper diagnostic laptops etc, and a trial run was performed, whilst diagnostics/laptop etc was plugged into car.
Plus! the car was nicely vacuumed and washed too! (not forgetting the key fob battery lol!).