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Title: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: Ash3000k on 28 October 2021, 10:52
Hi all,

Random question, only had my car for a couple of days trying to find everything to make her the way I want

Few questions:

1 - Is there a PSI boost pressure screen, I saw one on a review but cant see the option to see it on the driver's screen
2 - Is there some performance style monitoring for the left-hand screen too?

Thanks all!
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: fredgroves on 28 October 2021, 13:09
I thought it was one of the things you could have on the left/right of the dash?

If its not, then it might be something you can enable in OBD11.... but I could be wrong.

There is no Mk7.5 style performance monitor for the infotainment screen AFAIK.
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: Ash3000k on 28 October 2021, 14:10
I thought it was one of the things you could have on the left/right of the dash?

If its not, then it might be something you can enable in OBD11.... but I could be wrong.

There is no Mk7.5 style performance monitor for the infotainment screen AFAIK.

I will have a better look maybe it's got a strange name or something!
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: JoeGTI on 28 October 2021, 15:05
If you go to the dials view where the large "GTI" rev counter is in the middle, then you can set either (or both) of the left/right smaller dials to show the boost / power dials.
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: Ash3000k on 28 October 2021, 15:21
If you go to the dials view where the large "GTI" rev counter is in the middle, then you can set either (or both) of the left/right smaller dials to show the boost / power dials.

Cool will have try when I get back to my car !
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: JoeGTI on 28 October 2021, 16:26
If you go to the dials view where the large "GTI" rev counter is in the middle, then you can set either (or both) of the left/right smaller dials to show the boost / power dials.

Cool will have try when I get back to my car !

Oh I remember I had to go into "Settings" for each of the sub-dials and manually tick "Boost" / "Power" as one of the options that can be shown in those small dials. Then exit settings and it appears in the list as one of the options you can show.
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: fredgroves on 28 October 2021, 16:45
That's it!
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: Exonian on 28 October 2021, 19:13
Joe has it spot on with the dials.
Such a useful feature having the boost and g-meter. The only time it’s worth looking at either is when you can least afford to unless you want to die.


For an efficiency meter I can suggest getting a girlfriend or wife or mother or something to sit in the passenger seat. They will monitor your driving in live time by telling you that you’re going too fast constantly which will in turn will improve your economy and efficiency.

For performance monitoring get your chavvy mate to sit in (admit it, we all have at least one) and they’ll constantly egg you on to do stupid things assisting you to set a few records on your lap timer.
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: JoeGTI on 28 October 2021, 21:05
Exonian  :grin: :grin: as always !
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: Ash3000k on 30 October 2021, 22:53
Great thanks all!!!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: TurboTrev on 30 December 2021, 19:23
I'm having a right wobble re. my Mk8 order due to the lack of physical buttons/controls, so maybe someone could answer this question for me? 

Can you use your voice to alter heating temp/fan speed/direction, air con, etc.,  If you can, is this part of the voice activation package (£210, or included with Discover Pro) or will it work without specifying that extra?  Thanks.
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: Ubique on 30 December 2021, 20:55
Trev, you really don’t need to worry. It’s all easy to do without voice activation. Seriously, I’ve had my GTI since last March and the lack of buttons isn’t an issue, just think of using an iPad. I’m sure I have voice activation on my standard GTI but I’ve never used it.
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: Exonian on 30 December 2021, 22:27
People overthink the controls on the mk8 far too much.
I have voice control but don’t use it, I’ll randomly very occasionally get a digital voice asking me if I want something though, usually in response to me muttering quietly to myself when I’ve overshot a junction and am in the process of an eight point turn (which is the last thing I need in that situation) to recover my error.
Oh, I did ask VC Lady once to turn the aircon on as I was a bit warm yet the temp was set at 18 degrees. She curtly responded that the aircon was already on dummkopf Englander.

Assuming the climate is set to sync you merely have to slide a finger or tap the slider to increase or decrease temperature in half degree increments. It’s very easy, even in the dark once you’ve used it once or twice. It’s a stupid mistake by VW to not have it illuminated but isn’t the end of the world, it’s easy to locate by feel.
To de-mist the front screen there is an illuminated ‘button’ on the light switch control pad alongside the rear de-mister.
Any more complex choices such as directing warm air to feet are done via a hotkey button in the centre of the dash under the iPad unit which will pull up a full display of options on the screen. It’s relatively easy to use that on the move, certainly no worse than reaching down trying to stab buttons located just above the central console. The icons are clear and more or less in your line of vision.
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: Boothy1979 on 31 December 2021, 00:34
I completely agree with Exonian and Ubique comments, it really is nothing to worry about and something that has been made a big deal off when it really isn’t. Get the car and enjoy.
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: TurboTrev on 31 December 2021, 12:05
Ubique, Exonian and Boothy1979 many thanks for your replies. :smiley:  I'm useless with ipads, smart phones etc. and the thought of everything being controlled through a "computer screen", combined with all the glitches that everybody is having was making me have massive 2nd thoughts about my order.  I was also concerned with the safety aspect of making adjustments whilst driving. 

Anyhow, your comments are reassuring so I'll leave my order for the moment and in the meantime I'll try and see if I can get a demo at my local VW dealer.
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: Sniffer on 31 December 2021, 12:30
I don't know if it's standard but I certainly didn't pay any extra for Voice Activation on my GTI, although if I say "Hello Volkswagen, I'm cold (or hot) my car will increase (or decrease) the temperature setting at the driver's side of the car and respond accordingly. It's quite straightforward.

I believe that the temp settings operate exactly the same on the nearside, if the passengers makes the request, but none of my friends or relatives have been that keen to experiment with a talking car, so I don't yet know if it works on that side.  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: TurboTrev on 31 December 2021, 12:46
^^Thanks Sniffer. :smiley:  Both versions of the nav originally came with voice activation, but it has now been removed from the standard version. 

What I'm not sure about is whether the voice activation extra (£210) is just for nav and phone and the rest e.g. heating commands, is still there, or whether you have to pay to get all of the voice activation stuff?
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: valentino on 31 December 2021, 12:52
I'm having a right wobble re. my Mk8 order due to the lack of physical buttons/controls, so maybe someone could answer this question for me? 

Can you use your voice to alter heating temp/fan speed/direction, air con, etc.,  If you can, is this part of the voice activation package (£210, or included with Discover Pro) or will it work without specifying that extra?  Thanks.

Dont have a wobble. Its all straight forward. Im an old timer, and i have managed to get to grips with all the controls, even without asking my sons. The car is great to drive, dont be tempted to cancel your order
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: fredgroves on 31 December 2021, 13:55
You don't get voice control any more without navpro or buying it on its own.

I'm sure it's in the online shop which means a) you can try it for 30 days and b) it doesn't count towards the 40k luxury car tax...

Ps I agree, all of the negative comments about the interface just seem like regurgitated fud from someone. Anyone who can't figure it out probably shouldn't be driving, it's about as complex as a toy for a three year old.
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: Exonian on 01 January 2022, 22:43
  I'm useless with ipads, smart phones etc. and the thought of everything being controlled through a "computer screen", combined with all the glitches that everybody is having was making me have massive 2nd thoughts about my order.  I was also concerned with the safety aspect of making adjustments whilst driving. 

Anyhow, your comments are reassuring so I'll leave my order for the moment and in the meantime I'll try and see if I can get a demo at my local VW dealer.

You manage to get on here Trev and post up comments so you’re not totally hopeless with tech!  :grin: :afro:

A little bit of familiarity with the system is all it takes. There are a lot of sub menus you’ll use once or twice and never again, just like on a mobile phone, iPad, laptop or whatever. Once the car is set up how you want it, that’s it.
Moving between any of the different series of Golf sees certain controls placed differently or operated differently. Mk2 heater sliders becoming mk3 rotary controls moving gradually to climate control buttons and wheels, now haptics and screens.
Kind of reminds me of a grandfather passing comment to his grandchild who is sat playing a video game, “in my day you’d be out in the fresh air, getting pram wheels and wood from the dump to make a go-kart using your dad’s tools” then half an hour later the kid would be showing grandad how to set up his iPad and make use of the apps. Each a child of their time, each using the tools of their day to get by in their respective worlds.
A bit of mental adjustment and regular use works wonders.
A press on the climate hotkey will bring up the screen, it’s best to familiarise with it a little before moving off as like any new series of Golf, you don’t want to be taking your eyes off the road even briefly once underway, so you do need to know roughly where each individual control is by memory.
Resting fingers on top of the screen and poking with your thumb is the most accurate way once on the move.

 
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: TurboTrev on 02 January 2022, 12:38
Many thanks Exonian, reasurring words. :smiley:  I think I need to see one live in action, which I will try to arrange.  In the meantime, I'll just man up and look forward to it arriving although that probably won't be for another 8/9 months, which might be a good thing as all the glitches should hopefully be resolved. :grin: 
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: Foxy367 on 04 January 2022, 11:21
  I'm useless with ipads, smart phones etc. and the thought of everything being controlled through a "computer screen", combined with all the glitches that everybody is having was making me have massive 2nd thoughts about my order.  I was also concerned with the safety aspect of making adjustments whilst driving. 

Anyhow, your comments are reassuring so I'll leave my order for the moment and in the meantime I'll try and see if I can get a demo at my local VW dealer.

You manage to get on here Trev and post up comments so you’re not totally hopeless with tech!  :grin: :afro:

A little bit of familiarity with the system is all it takes. There are a lot of sub menus you’ll use once or twice and never again, just like on a mobile phone, iPad, laptop or whatever. Once the car is set up how you want it, that’s it.
Moving between any of the different series of Golf sees certain controls placed differently or operated differently. Mk2 heater sliders becoming mk3 rotary controls moving gradually to climate control buttons and wheels, now haptics and screens.
Kind of reminds me of a grandfather passing comment to his grandchild who is sat playing a video game, “in my day you’d be out in the fresh air, getting pram wheels and wood from the dump to make a go-kart using your dad’s tools” then half an hour later the kid would be showing grandad how to set up his iPad and make use of the apps. Each a child of their time, each using the tools of their day to get by in their respective worlds.
A bit of mental adjustment and regular use works wonders.
A press on the climate hotkey will bring up the screen, it’s best to familiarise with it a little before moving off as like any new series of Golf, you don’t want to be taking your eyes off the road even briefly once underway, so you do need to know roughly where each individual control is by memory.
Resting fingers on top of the screen and poking with your thumb is the most accurate way once on the move.

 

If you ever drove a Mark 4 with climate control they were the most un-intuitive set of buttons set far too low for normal use. The amount of times i had to take my eyes off the road to change the temperature (It also didn't seem to regulate the temperature that well. The Mk8 is far better at least the controls are at eye level!

People overthink the controls on the mk8 far too much.

To de-mist the front screen there is an illuminated ‘button’ on the light switch control pad alongside the rear de-mister.
Any more complex choices such as directing warm air to feet are done via a hotkey button in the centre of the dash under the iPad unit which will pull up a full display of options on the screen. It’s relatively easy to use that on the move, certainly no worse than reaching down trying to stab buttons located just above the central console. The icons are clear and more or less in your line of vision.

Agree with the top part of this quote and the online reviewers seemingly looking for click bait don't help either!

The demist button it took me far too long looking through the menus with a misted over front and rear screen before I realised these buttons existed!!!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: Exonian on 04 January 2022, 18:20
Foxy, the light switch pad is probably not the most obvious place (understatement) to look for the de-mist functions when the other climate functions are grouped elsewhere. I’d imagine most people find them by accident.

I *think* I can just about remember the mk4 climate, if memory serves me correctly it’s a DIN sized panel full of small buttons just above the ashtray (remember those?!)
My mk4 just had normal aircon but I had a good test drive in a V6 4Mo trying to decide whether I wanted one.

Damian, I’ve not had an issue like that before! Mind you I prefer wired connection as the camera lenses make the phone move around too much on the wireless causing phone charging/phone not charging/phone charging/phone not charging all the time.
I’ve definitely not seen Apple Pay come up.
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: fredgroves on 04 January 2022, 18:40
Yeah the demist button for the windscreen eluded me for over 6 months... was previously rummaging in the menus... which does work but not as quickly as pressing the button!
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: fredgroves on 04 January 2022, 20:49
Yes. Eco tips. Can't remember where the option is but it's definitely there.
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: DoomedHippie on 05 January 2022, 10:44
https://youtu.be/kAYQGc1sSH0

Just watched this regarding steering wheel/button less controls. Genuinely, I think he sums it up really well. Having done a little over 1000 miles in mine now, it's not the controls that frustrate me, it's the glitches in the software!
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: Verve34 on 05 January 2022, 11:42
Yes. Eco tips. Can't remember where the option is but it's definitely there.

Ohh I never knew you can turn that off  I’ll have to look into this immediately  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: Foxy367 on 05 January 2022, 14:22
https://youtu.be/kAYQGc1sSH0

Just watched this regarding steering wheel/button less controls. Genuinely, I think he sums it up really well. Having done a little over 1000 miles in mine now, it's not the controls that frustrate me, it's the glitches in the software!

Couldn't agree more 6 months of life with my Golf and I really quite like the haptic steering wheel controls and the last few weeks its been cold enough for the heated steering wheel to come on each time so I Can't even do that by mistake!

Its like anything new it just takes time to get used to
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: fredgroves on 05 January 2022, 18:53
Yes. Eco tips. Can't remember where the option is but it's definitely there.

Ohh I never knew you can turn that off  I’ll have to look into this immediately  :grin: :grin: :grin:

Press the assist button, press the three lines (aka hamburger... Top left) and scroll down to "eco assist", click on it to turn it off.

I did it tonight... I'd turned it back on when petrol was hard to find.
Title: Re: GTI MK8 infotainment questions
Post by: fredgroves on 05 January 2022, 18:59
https://youtu.be/kAYQGc1sSH0

Just watched this regarding steering wheel/button less controls. Genuinely, I think he sums it up really well. Having done a little over 1000 miles in mine now, it's not the controls that frustrate me, it's the glitches in the software!

Quite interesting but there are a few things he's not realised too... Its not that the system is complex it's just that there are some shortcuts you might not realise.