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Model specific boards => Golf mk8 => Topic started by: Stu_CS45 on 04 August 2021, 08:12
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Morning all,
As the title may suggest, I am in a dilemma, CS45 or Golf R? I am 80/20 leaning on the CS45.
Current car is an M2 competition, fabulous car and it really is, but ask me that again in the winter months.. that is why it is going to a new home next week, the other deciding factor is that the market is very good for used performance cars currently so it has been a cheap 12 months ownership with good returns.
Having a look around the MK8 ticks my boxes but as has been mentioned a few times there appears to be some gremlins with the software/acc a mind of its own etc . This would appear to be a common trait as we hope Wolfsburg come up with some solutions pronto.
As this is a GTI forum I understand there will be some bias towards the GTI, I suppose it would be easier asking why you didn't order the R.
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I would suggest you go for the CS45, that way you will not have the hassle of changing your username? :)
Different cars, I would probably go for the R, or consider a lightly optioned CS to keep it under £40k?
Each to their own, but I was slightly disappointed with the 45 cosmetic "upgrades".
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I would suggest you go for the CS45, that way you will not have the hassle of changing your username? :)
Different cars, I would probably go for the R, or consider a lightly optioned CS to keep it under £40k?
Each to their own, but I was slightly disappointed with the 45 cosmetic "upgrades".
Thanks for the reply, I am not too concerned about the 40k tax thing. It is a pretty tough dilemma.
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A quick Q for anyone that knows ; Does the car shift up for you in manual mode still? I seem to recall it doesn't but perhaps that is only in the Special mode (nurburgring/DCC)
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I think only the R doesn't auto upshift, the CS45 is basically a CS and that definitely upshifts.
You can get that fixed with a DSG tune though. TVS are your goto people for that.
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Welcome Stu :smiley:
Have you seen this? https://youtu.be/7vEtg8HNBSI
After the novelty has worn off I doubt either Golf will stoke your fires too much after owning an M2, but as a short term car then I’d say if you’re going for an R get a Performance Pack version.
A Clubsport (45) is all about the handling, it’s a very quick point to point car on the right road but it’s no M2.
An R is faster still but probably even more inert after an M2.
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Welcome Stu :smiley:
Have you seen this? https://youtu.be/7vEtg8HNBSI
After the novelty has worn off I doubt either Golf will stoke your fires too much after owning an M2, but as a short term car then I’d say if you’re going for an R get a Performance Pack version.
A Clubsport (45) is all about the handling, it’s a very quick point to point car on the right road but it’s no M2.
An R is faster still but probably even more inert after an M2.
Thanks for the reply, My m2 is on coilovers and I promise you that most modern hot hatches will likely see off an M2 in anything other than bone dry conditions and even then it wont be far off.
I had a civic type R (FK8) which was very very good in the back roads but as I am approaching 42 I had a realisation that the looks were a bit too much, I love the M2 but it rains a lot here.
The MK8 appeals to me.. not yet ordered but I am hoping VW pull their socks up with the current issues they are having across the MK8 range.
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I think only the R doesn't auto upshift, the CS45 is basically a CS and that definitely upshifts.
You can get that fixed with a DSG tune though. TVS are your goto people for that.
Ah really, I was hopeful it was software related with the "special modes"
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I sold my M2 Comp, we have a MK7 GTi, I tested a CS and R back to back (had the R for 24 hours also) and I would buy the R, its all year round useable
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I sold my M2 Comp, we have a MK7 GTi, I tested a CS and R back to back (had the R for 24 hours also) and I would buy the R, its all year round useable
Yes, because FWD hatches suddenly become unusable for six months of the year. :whistle:
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I sold my M2 Comp, we have a MK7 GTi, I tested a CS and R back to back (had the R for 24 hours also) and I would buy the R, its all year round useable
Yes, because FWD hatches suddenly become unusable for six months of the year. :whistle:
Lol, obviously not but you can get the power down in the rain with 4WD, and we get lots of it :grin:
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I’ve currently got a 7.5 R which I’m changing for the CS45. I’ve based my decision on a very short and not particularly inspirational test drive of a CS. Makes sense! I always wanted to get back into an anniversary gti after selling my ED35.
I know it’s not a Mk8 but my current R has been sensational. It’s absolutely brilliant and so different to the many Gti’s I’ve had. Scarily quick in the right situation and just never misses a beat. Never understand why some people say they’re dull. Being good at everything isn’t a flaw.
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Morning all,
As the title may suggest, I am in a dilemma, CS45 or Golf R? I am 80/20 leaning on the CS45.
Current car is an M2 competition, fabulous car and it really is, but ask me that again in the winter months..
if i was coming from an M2 i will goto New Audi RS3 or Golf R
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I think only the R doesn't auto upshift, the CS45 is basically a CS and that definitely upshifts.
The standard R will upshift at the limiter, if you spec the Performance Pack, it removes this and will not upshift at the limiter. All GTI models will upshift at the limiter, regardless of mode.
My little bit of advice on CS45 vs R....I have owned a CS40 and Mk7.5 R and currently own a Mk8 R Performance Pack, honestly, they are very different cars, my personal opinion is I would choose the Clubsport models over R models, this is based upon my own preference for a more interactive, engaging driving experience. In the real world, the Clubsport will feel just as quick, if not quicker due to the weight advantage. Traction won't be an issue as you learn to moderate the throttle...Given the choice, Clubsport everytime for me. (I have just ordered a CS45 myself as well)
You can get that fixed with a DSG tune though. TVS are your goto people for that.
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I think only the R doesn't auto upshift, the CS45 is basically a CS and that definitely upshifts.
The standard R will upshift at the limiter, if you spec the Performance Pack, it removes this and will not upshift at the limiter. All GTI models will upshift at the limiter, regardless of mode.
My little bit of advice on CS45 vs R....I have owned a CS40 and Mk7.5 R and currently own a Mk8 R Performance Pack, honestly, they are very different cars, my personal opinion is I would choose the Clubsport models over R models, this is based upon my own preference for a more interactive, engaging driving experience. In the real world, the Clubsport will feel just as quick, if not quicker due to the weight advantage. Traction won't be an issue as you learn to moderate the throttle...Given the choice, Clubsport everytime for me. (I have just ordered a CS45 myself as well)
You can get that fixed with a DSG tune though. TVS are your goto people for that.
**Sorry, messed up the last post**
The standard R will upshift at the limiter, if you spec the Performance Pack, it removes this and will not upshift at the limiter. All GTI models will upshift at the limiter, regardless of mode.
My little bit of advice on CS45 vs R....I have owned a CS40 and Mk7.5 R and currently own a Mk8 R Performance Pack, honestly, they are very different cars, my personal opinion is I would choose the Clubsport models over R models, this is based upon my own preference for a more interactive, engaging driving experience. In the real world, the Clubsport will feel just as quick, if not quicker due to the weight advantage. Traction won't be an issue as you learn to moderate the throttle...Given the choice, Clubsport everytime for me. (I have just ordered a CS45 myself as well)
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You have a Mk8R PP and are swapping to a 45 clubby?
Really? Already?
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You have a Mk8R PP and are swapping to a 45 clubby?
Really? Already?
Yes :laugh:
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You have a Mk8R PP and are swapping to a 45 clubby?
Really? Already?
Yes :laugh:
My profile name isn't for nothing :wink:
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I guess the current market means that you won't lose much money doing that, so a good time to do it!
Have you driven a clubby yet?
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I guess the current market means that you won't lose much money doing that, so a good time to do it!
Have you driven a clubby yet?
Yes, I drove one back in December, was impressed then but what persuaded me to the R was it felt VW had pushed more budget towards it, interior details, painted grills, Akrapovic etc, but when the CS45 came out, some of these have been addressed, Akrapovic, leatherette door cards etc...Having not long sold my CS40, I was hankering after another fwd hatch!
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I guess you've still got the R for some time yet... probably 6 months! :grin:
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I guess you've still got the R for some time yet... probably 6 months! :grin:
8 I reckon :shocked:
Toying between a TCR and UP GTi as a stop gap :whistle: