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Model specific boards => Golf mk8 => Topic started by: Brenbo on 29 April 2021, 13:00
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I have just noticed on The VW Configurator that you can choose either Diamond Cut or Black Estoril 19" Alloys if configuring a Golf R. With this in mind, If you were to configure a Performance Golf with Estoril alloys, which would you choose, Diamond Cut or Black Estorils?
Although I have experienced the obvious White Worm issues in the past with Diamond Cut Alloys and would prefer a painted/powder coated wheel, I am unsure if in my case a Black Estoril would go with many car paint colours, and as a result whether the Diamond Cut would suit the appearance of most Performance Golfs more?
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I spec'd the black Estorils on my Moonstone Grey Clubsport. Depends on the colour of the car you go for and personal taste...
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Black wheels look great in the showroom (with certain colours). But look a bit sh1t after that most of the time. They show up every mark, every spec of dust and to my eyes make the wheels look smaller.
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You don't get white worm with black but they do show all of the dust and dirt plus the detail of the wheel is largely lost, you just get black round shapes in the arches.
They also look more gangster, whether thats for you, hard to say.
If you are leasing/not keeping, sod the white worm?
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I’m not a huge fan of black alloys, but I’d always choose black over diamond cut as I dislike diamond cut alloys with a passion;
- poor durability and susceptible to white worm, especially if used on cars during the winter months
- more expensive to refurbish than painted / powder coated alloys
- easily damaged by careless or inexperienced tyre fitters
Agree, they’d look better with some paint colours than others. Are the all-black Estorils gloss or satin black?
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On looking at some Google Images it appears the Black Estorils might be Gloss Black.
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You don't get white worm with black but they do show all of the dust and dirt plus the detail of the wheel is largely lost, you just get black round shapes in the arches.
They also look more gangster, whether thats for you, hard to say.
If you are leasing/not keeping, sod the white worm?
I will be buying the car and keeping for a good few years. So would want a wheel which would look good and last the duration of my ownership. I am also tempted by a Lapiz Blue Golf R at present, so wondering whether to go with the Diamond Cut or not? I currently have Pretorias on my MK7 Golf R and have to say the ease of refurb on a wheel which is not Diamond Cut is a blessing. If Pretorias were an option still on a new MK8 Golf I would go for them hands down.
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I reckon the diamond cut finish will look better, but it depends on a few things;-
How long you're keeping the car.
How precious you are about avoiding kerbs
Whether you take the wheels off in the winter to run winter wheels. This should keep diamond cut wheels safe from salt on the roads.
What colour car you're getting. Black wheels look decent against white bodywork, but not so great against black bodywork.
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With lapiz I'd go with the diamond ones. Sure they may get messed up over time but just consider that as part of the cost of ownership. I'd not pick black.
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A lot of German on the GTI forum run the standard diamond cut 18“ on there GTI MkVII in Winter as winter set. So, as long as you keep them protected with good alloy wheels sealant product and clean them often they will be fine.
The original alloys from VW are good Quality product
My advice, If you are keeping the car for long period better make sure you buy exactly what you want otherwise you will by it twice.
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A lot of German on the GTI forum run the standard diamond cut 18“ on there GTI MkVII in Winter as winter set. So, as long as you keep them protected with good alloy wheels sealant product and clean them often they will be fine.
I did that with the diamond cut alloys on my mk6 GTD; they were cleaned every 7-10 days, protected with wheel sealant and wax every 3-4 months, any stone chips touched in pretty much as soon as they happened and in spite of that, two of the wheels succumbed to white worm corrosion at around the 2.5 year mark.
My advice, If you are keeping the car for long period better make sure you buy exactly what you want otherwise you will by it twice.
Good advice, but I couldn’t buy exactly what I wanted when I bought that car - I wanted a set of alloys with a painted / powder coated finished which VW didn’t offer, and diamond cut was also the only choice on the two VW’s I’ve bought since.
So I ended up buying twice - a set of powder coated aftermarket alloys to replace the factory diamond cut alloys.
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I have just noticed on The VW Configurator that you can choose either Diamond Cut or Black Estoril 19" Alloys if configuring a Golf R. With this in mind, If you were to configure a Performance Golf with Estoril alloys, which would you choose, Diamond Cut or Black Estorils?
Although I have experienced the obvious White Worm issues in the past with Diamond Cut Alloys and would prefer a painted/powder coated wheel, I am unsure if in my case a Black Estoril would go with many car paint colours, and as a result whether the Diamond Cut would suit the appearance of most Performance Golfs more?
Neither.
I’d spec 18’s, get some 19” T-Roc R Pretorias (eBay 324258049705) with some PS4S and live happily ever after. :smiley:
Unless I was getting a Performance Pack R, in which case I think I’d stick with the diamond cut wheels.
I’ve had a few sets of black wheels and they quickly get covered in micro scratches and brake dust deposits.
But then again they’re easy to touch up when the paint gets damaged and don’t suffer the dreaded whiteworm.
The polished face Estorils have more definition and look visually bigger, but the black barrels will suffer the same fate as the all black versions and the faces will end up tarnished eventually.
They could always be fully refurbed in a mid-dark grey powder-coat after a few years though.
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I'd go for the black.
I think the Estoril design is quite minimalist and therefore suits being black a lot more than diamond cut, I think the diamond cut Estoril looks a bit Halfords and that is strange considering diamond cut alloys usually look better than the same design in a solid colour. Add that to the fact that diamond cut alloys can be a bit of a nightmare to maintain, I think I will be getting black if I can crunch some numbers and get a Clubsport.