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Title: Fitting Audi wheels . Do I need different wheel bolts??
Post by: Mikeyd1 on 20 March 2021, 21:00
I’m just about to purchase some Audi s3 b spoke alloys for my gti . Can I use my golf wheel bolts with Audi wheels, everywhere I’ve search seems to suggest they are the same but just want some clarification. Also does anyone know if my vw centre cap will be a direct fit??

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Title: Re: Fitting Audi wheels . Do I need different wheel bolts??
Post by: Exonian on 20 March 2021, 21:50
Looking at the silver car it has the VW caps sat happily in the Audi wheels. Hopefully that should answer that question.
A3/S3 wheels use the same bolts as a Golf but some of the bigger Audis can use different bolts because the offsets are lower than A3 alloys. I’m far from an expert on that subject though. Also some big Audis have a larger centre bore which needs sleeving down with spigots when fitting to a Golf.
Again, if they’re off an A3 then the dimensions are all a direct fit to a Golf.
Title: Re: Fitting Audi wheels . Do I need different wheel bolts??
Post by: Guzzle on 20 March 2021, 22:34
As Exonian says, as long as they are genuine Audi (not replicas) and definitely from an S3 (not S4/S5 etc) then they should fit the Golf without issue. 

Not sure about the centre caps though. Although if they come with Audi caps you should be able to get VW logo stickers to go over the top if your original VW caps don't fit.
Title: Re: Fitting Audi wheels . Do I need different wheel bolts??
Post by: Exonian on 20 March 2021, 22:43
Oh, yes, centre caps. Sorry was half asleep.
I was thinking about bolt caps as they’re normally the awkward thing to transfer over because Audi wheels tend to use a different design of nut cover cap.
Centre Caps on Audis are sometimes a fractionally different size. It’s a case of test it and see. Polo caps are a bit smaller than Golf caps so might be an option or good ol eBay logo sticker as Guzzle says.
Title: Re: Fitting Audi wheels . Do I need different wheel bolts??
Post by: Mikeyd1 on 21 March 2021, 06:55
Thanks everyone. Yes they genuine. The guy also has another set, not sure which to choose
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Title: Re: Fitting Audi wheels . Do I need different wheel bolts??
Post by: Exonian on 21 March 2021, 09:03
I think I prefer the bottom set but that’ll be a personal thing for you when it comes to choice. Which can you see yourself preferring in a few months time as you walk up to the car each day?
The second ones look a bit more of a VW type design and maybe slightly more of a very modern looking wheel. But the first set look easy to maintain and are a clean cut design. 
Title: Re: Fitting Audi wheels . Do I need different wheel bolts??
Post by: DCmk3 on 21 March 2021, 09:12
If that is indeed a diamond cut and not just silver on the second set, I would stay away with how bad the finish can age and get damaged.
Title: Re: Fitting Audi wheels . Do I need different wheel bolts??
Post by: Guzzle on 21 March 2021, 09:44
If that is indeed a diamond cut and not just silver on the second set, I would stay away with how bad the finish can age and get damaged.

They both look like they're diamond cut to me, it's just that the first set aren't painted black.
Title: Re: Fitting Audi wheels . Do I need different wheel bolts??
Post by: SRGTD on 21 March 2021, 09:49
If that is indeed a diamond cut and not just silver on the second set, I would stay away with how bad the finish can age and get damaged.

Looks like diamond cut to me. There aren’t many alloys that are painted in two colours black as they are expensive to produce (time taken to mask off the areas painted in the first colour before applying the second colour).

I’d never buy diamond cut alloys if there was a decent alternative with a painted / powder coated finish. IMHO the diamond cut / lacquered finish suffers from poor durability and if the lacquer gets damaged, white worm corrosion sets in. Judging by posts on quite a few forums, diamond cut wheels are also quite susceptible to damage by inexperienced / over-enthusiastic tyre fitters or poorly maintained tyre changing equipment.

Agree with @Guzzle - I think the first set are also diamond cut. Some of the Audi diamond cut alloys seem to have a less ‘mirror-like’ finish than the VW ones on the diamond cut parts.
Title: Re: Fitting Audi wheels . Do I need different wheel bolts??
Post by: DCmk3 on 21 March 2021, 10:06
If that is indeed a diamond cut and not just silver on the second set, I would stay away with how bad the finish can age and get damaged.

They both look like they're diamond cut to me, it's just that the first set aren't painted black.

Spot on, the lack of contrast between the different areas on the first ones threw me off. :whistle:
Title: Re: Fitting Audi wheels . Do I need different wheel bolts??
Post by: fredgroves on 21 March 2021, 11:56
If I was spending money on another set of wheels (I mean buying some to go on the car, not ordering a new VW) I definitely would never choose diamond cut.

After three to four years they always have white worm issues in one way or another. I know you can refurb them, but why bother having diamond cut in the first place - avoid the problem to start with if you have powder coated.

Title: Re: Fitting Audi wheels . Do I need different wheel bolts??
Post by: monkeyhanger on 21 March 2021, 13:09
If that is indeed a diamond cut and not just silver on the second set, I would stay away with how bad the finish can age and get damaged.

They both look like they're diamond cut to me, it's just that the first set aren't painted black.

Spot on, the lack of contrast between the different areas on the first ones threw me off. :whistle:

My A4 has diamond cut alloys with silver painted areas, seems pretty pointless to diamond cut a silver wheel to me.
Title: Re: Fitting Audi wheels . Do I need different wheel bolts??
Post by: Mikeyd1 on 21 March 2021, 16:01
I do like the second set better. I was looking for a set of Pretoria’s but I wanted nearly new or new in silver with newish tyres but can’t find a set unless near on 2 grand which is in acceptable to me. Both wheels above are brand new with brand new tyres £1450. I have untill Saturday to make a decision, in the mean time I’ll keep looking for a set of Pretoria’s in silver