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Title: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: JRG4 on 31 January 2021, 09:01
Is this standard on the clubsport? Seen a few videos with it and a few without. Can’t see anything on the configurator about it
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: fredgroves on 31 January 2021, 10:23
It's "special mode" in the driving mode select screen.
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: Exonian on 31 January 2021, 10:50
I think it only comes with DCC.
I don’t have DCC and can’t see the Green Hell mode in the selections unless I’ve overlooked it somewhere (which is quite possible  :laugh: )
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: JRG4 on 31 January 2021, 11:24
I’m pretty sure its standard but not on the earlier builds yet.
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: fredgroves on 31 January 2021, 12:48
It almost is certainly associated with DCC because it softens the suspension...just thought of that.
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: JRG4 on 01 February 2021, 18:33
Can’t find anywhere that the ‘special mode’ is associated with DCC. All articles point back to it being there as standard. I’ll try and get some info from my dealer
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: CSS on 01 February 2021, 19:56
Special aka Nürburgring setting is on the R performance pack only I believe, not on standard DCC
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: JRG4 on 01 February 2021, 20:01
Special aka Nürburgring setting is on the R performance pack only I believe, not on standard DCC

https://youtu.be/I0MW_V2OqxQ

See timestamp 6:33
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: CSS on 01 February 2021, 20:06
Good spot. performance pack must be an option on Clubsport then.  Only seen it on an R so far
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: JRG4 on 01 February 2021, 20:10
Good spot. performance pack must be an option on Clubsport then.  Only seen it on an R so far

Not sure if its a German only thing but the performance pack definitely isnt an option on the uk configurator
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: fredgroves on 01 February 2021, 20:11
There isn't a perf pack for the clubby.

Special mode is definitely on the car... but whether or not its only there with DCC.... she tells you it softens up the suspension to super soft. You don't get that without DCC.
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: CSS on 01 February 2021, 20:19
German configurator defines an option for Clubsport- Adaptive chassis control DCC including driving profile selection
This isn’t an option in the UK brochure which I guess is an error.
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: JRG4 on 01 February 2021, 20:23
There isn't a perf pack for the clubby.

Special mode is definitely on the car... but whether or not its only there with DCC.... she tells you it softens up the suspension to super soft. You don't get that without DCC.

I wonder if you were to order the perf pack on the R without the DCC.. would you still get ‘special mode’?
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: fredgroves on 01 February 2021, 20:35
There isn't a perf pack for the clubby.

Special mode is definitely on the car... but whether or not its only there with DCC.... she tells you it softens up the suspension to super soft. You don't get that without DCC.

I wonder if you were to order the perf pack on the R without the DCC.. would you still get ‘special mode’?

I'd say it was hard to achieve that, because they all say the trick to a ring setup is a super soft suspension setup to absorb the bumps (sounds like anywhere in Lincs and some the kids round here clearly think its the same) and I just can't see how you'd do that minus DCC.
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: ClubsportMk8 on 02 February 2021, 09:17
My Clubsport doesn’t have DCC so therefore doesn’t have the Nurburgring mode.

Having said that, my individual profile is everything in sport apart from the chassis (it’s in comfort) so that is about as close as I can get.
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: fredgroves on 02 February 2021, 09:29
So there you go, you can only feel special if you spend another 900 quid.
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: joet on 02 February 2021, 10:22
My Clubsport doesn’t have DCC so therefore doesn’t have the Nurburgring mode.

Having said that, my individual profile is everything in sport apart from the chassis (it’s in comfort) so that is about as close as I can get.

Hi. If you don't have DCC, what does putting the chassis in comfort mode actually do?

Thanks
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: fredgroves on 02 February 2021, 11:05
My Clubsport doesn’t have DCC so therefore doesn’t have the Nurburgring mode.

Having said that, my individual profile is everything in sport apart from the chassis (it’s in comfort) so that is about as close as I can get.

Hi. If you don't have DCC, what does putting the chassis in comfort mode actually do?

Thanks

A non-DCC GTI or Clubby has two chasis modes. (no idea about an R)

Some say this is a non-dynamic suspension setting (DCC is dynamic) and others have speculated (I am guessing wrongly) that "VW couldn't be bothered to remove the menu option" and it actually does nothing at all.

My test drive of a non-DCC car suggested there was a difference, albeit a small one.
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: joet on 02 February 2021, 11:28
My Clubsport doesn’t have DCC so therefore doesn’t have the Nurburgring mode.

Having said that, my individual profile is everything in sport apart from the chassis (it’s in comfort) so that is about as close as I can get.

Hi. If you don't have DCC, what does putting the chassis in comfort mode actually do?

Thanks

A non-DCC GTI or Clubby has two chasis modes. (no idea about an R)

Some say this is a non-dynamic suspension setting (DCC is dynamic) and others have speculated (I am guessing wrongly) that "VW couldn't be bothered to remove the menu option" and it actually does nothing at all.

My test drive of a non-DCC car suggested there was a difference, albeit a small one.

Ahh, OK. That makes sense. Thanks. Ordered mine with DCC, so looking forward to exploring the different modes.
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: mike roberts on 02 February 2021, 13:49
BuT MeH SuSpEnSiOn + ARBz NeEdZ To Be sOliD tO Do FaStS  :rolleyes:

I bet it blew some people's tiny minds when they realised that having supple working suspension makes a car faster pretty much everywhere bar Silverstone.
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: fredgroves on 02 February 2021, 14:03
BuT MeH SuSpEnSiOn + ARBz NeEdZ To Be sOliD tO Do FaStS  :rolleyes:

I bet it blew some people's tiny minds when they realised that having supple working suspension makes a car faster pretty much everywhere bar Silverstone.

LOL otherwise just remove the suspension - think of the weight saving! I'll bet I could do the Ring in under 2 minutes like that.

Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: CSS on 02 February 2021, 17:58
Page 11 of the link gives more detail on driver profiles on the Clubsport.

https://www.vwpress.co.uk/assets/documents/original/27249-ThenewGolfGTIClubsportOctober2020.pdf
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: CSS on 08 February 2021, 16:04
Comparison of DCC on Clubsport (top) and R and R performance pack.


(https://i.postimg.cc/1zB7Z2CL/FC8-BF3-A9-C299-40-E0-BF02-17-BD9-FB52994.png) (https://postimg.cc/2qq7Qcfw)

(https://i.postimg.cc/wjCRjjPN/B14811-AE-E9-DE-40-FB-8-ECC-874-BECCD3-EDF.png) (https://postimg.cc/gxK2MmGc)

(https://i.postimg.cc/bJy2nFRH/53-D0-E56-F-3-CE5-4-C07-972-C-B2-F1-FA1241-B4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1gdthB2f)
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: clubsport on 08 February 2021, 17:41
Interesting that the mk 8 Dcc version appears to have lost the default "normal" mode?
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 08 February 2021, 17:53
Interesting that the mk 8 Dcc version appears to have lost the default "normal" mode?

Is Normal is just called Comfort now as it is on lots of other cars?
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: clubsport on 08 February 2021, 18:14
I hear you, but I always thought comfort was softer than normal with sport being harder than normal on a mk7?
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: CSS on 08 February 2021, 18:25
Can confirm.  Comfort is softer than normal but Individual with engine sound on comfort is the best compromise for fast road driving.


(https://i.postimg.cc/cHrBkyTh/07356218-044-E-4-EEF-AA9-C-5-E60041-FAF6-B.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: fredgroves on 08 February 2021, 18:35
I hear you, but I always thought comfort was softer than normal with sport being harder than normal on a mk7?

Yes on the Mk7 you had three driving profiles plus individual plus eco I think, now its either sport or comfort or individual.
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: clubsport on 08 February 2021, 19:54
I hear you, but I always thought comfort was softer than normal with sport being harder than normal on a mk7?

Yes on the Mk7 you had three driving profiles plus individual plus eco I think, now its either sport or comfort or individual.

Yes, I do have DCC on my mk7 CS.
I assume the Dcc on the mk8 is progress?
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: fredgroves on 08 February 2021, 20:11
Yes on the mk8 it's no longer just a reactive technology.
Title: Re: GTI Clubsport - Nurburgring Mode
Post by: clubsport on 08 February 2021, 21:07
I haven't driven the latest Dcc so I can't comment. I do hope it's not like the Audi dynamic system on the RS4. :)