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Title: Possible Start button failure
Post by: golfberg on 18 January 2021, 20:06
I am having a problem in starting my 2016 GTD (DSG) and was wondering if anyone else has had the issue.  I have searched in previous posts, but nothing seems to appear.    I press the start button, with foot on the brake pedal and nothing happens - no lights on the console, nothing.  Press again and same again, nothing.
After 4 or 5 presses, the lights come on the console and it starts perfectly.  The issue is very intermittent as sometimes it starts in the first press on the start button.   I suspect it may be the switch underneath the button, and only making contact sometimes, but not sure. 

Regards,

Dave,
Title: Re: Possible Start button failure
Post by: itavaltalainen on 18 January 2021, 21:02
Probably glow plugs... are you turning the ignition off between attempts?
Title: Re: Possible Start button failure
Post by: golfberg on 18 January 2021, 22:03
Hi, the ignition never comes on between failed attempts.  It’s  keyless  car.
Title: Re: Possible Start button failure
Post by: DCmk3 on 19 January 2021, 06:13
It does seem to happen that the button fails, I am fairly sure I read a post on here a couple days ago where someone faced the same issues and thought there were other issues with their car.

The button failed and they could not get the ignition on either.
If you try with one firm press does it not react perhaps? The contacts within the switch could be a little worn out.
Title: Re: Possible Start button failure
Post by: mcmaddy on 19 January 2021, 09:49
A friend of mine incidentally called Dave and with a gtd had to replace the starter button on his. Was an intermittent fault from what I can remember as the dealer couldn't find anything wrong. He bought the replacement button and it sorted it.
Title: Re: Possible Start button failure
Post by: Al1040 on 19 January 2021, 10:19
+1 for the button, if it was the glow plugs, the dash would light up and the glow plug symbol would stay lit
Title: Re: Possible Start button failure
Post by: dervdave on 19 January 2021, 10:35
Yeah its the button, mine went on my 16 plate GTD and replaced luckily within warranty
Title: Re: Possible Start button failure
Post by: golfberg on 19 January 2021, 12:31
Thanks  to all for the replies.  I tried it this morning but it started first time and i could not make it fail, but when i pressed it to stop the engine on the last time, it would not stop the engine. It took 4 or 5 presses for the engine to stop.  I think it sounds like a dodgey button.

cheers

Dave,
Title: Re: Possible Start button failure
Post by: fredgroves on 19 January 2021, 14:20
You can probably fix that yourself if you want to try.... replacing that button isn't massively difficult.
Title: Re: Possible Start button failure
Post by: monkeyhanger on 19 January 2021, 15:06
The start button on my A4 TDI puts the electrics on first time but half the time it doesn't start the engine and a second press is required (but never more than the second press). I assume that in my case, the glow plugs need to warm up for a cold start.

If you are needing to press 3+ times, either your button is iffy or there's something going on with the glow plugs (but you have a warning light for that), so probably the switch.

Definitely nothing seasonal going on is there - like this happens every Winter but not in the Summer?
Title: Re: Possible Start button failure
Post by: golfberg on 19 January 2021, 16:23
It’s nothing seasonal, i have had the car 4 years and no previous issues. It started playing up about 2 months ago, then seemed to be ok, but the problem is now back again. 

As Fred suggested I may try and pop it out and replace it myself. I assume it’s switch unit with a couple of plastic connectors on the unit.

cheers

Dave
Title: Re: Possible Start button failure
Post by: too hot on 20 January 2021, 10:53
I had the same problem with my 64 plate GTI .Sold the car and solved the problem 😂😂
Title: Re: Possible Start button failure
Post by: Vwjap on 23 January 2021, 18:23
Yeah, I had that, found that I had to hit the button a few times to start or stop, when I took it in they couldnt find the fault, luckily as I was just about to leave it didn’t work, and a sales guy was near me, he saw the problem and went and got the mechanic,
Title: Re: Possible Start button failure
Post by: My other womans a vw. on 24 January 2021, 13:26
Note to self-don’t by any cars owned by ‘too hot’
Title: Re: Possible Start button failure
Post by: My other womans a vw. on 24 January 2021, 13:33
‘Buy’
Title: Re: Possible Start button failure
Post by: onlychengy on 20 February 2021, 14:44
I am having a problem in starting my 2016 GTD (DSG) and was wondering if anyone else has had the issue.  I have searched in previous posts, but nothing seems to appear.    I press the start button, with foot on the brake pedal and nothing happens - no lights on the console, nothing.  Press again and same again, nothing.
After 4 or 5 presses, the lights come on the console and it starts perfectly.  The issue is very intermittent as sometimes it starts in the first press on the start button.   I suspect it may be the switch underneath the button, and only making contact sometimes, but not sure. 

Regards,

Dave,

Hi Dave, did you manage to sort in the end? Ours had the same issue and it was the contacts which needed cleaning.

Prob takes 10-20 mins to sort using below tutorial for cleaning contacts and video removing the start/stop button:

https://forums.tdiclub.com/index.php?threads/fix-for-when-push-to-start-button-acts-up.430031/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlAuEnrJX6I&t=185s

Cheers

Chengy

Title: Re: Possible Start button failure
Post by: golfDB on 10 November 2023, 07:55
Apologies, especially to Onlychengy, for not replying to this thread earlier.   The button problem cleared up, but has just recently started playing up again. Took it to my VW indy garage who stays in needs a new start/stop button so they have ordered one, snag is they say there is a problem getting one as they are made,  they believe in Ukraine, so supply is a problem. 

Dave,
Title: Re: Possible Start button failure
Post by: symonh2000 on 17 November 2023, 09:15
Our GTI seems to have a dodgy start button as well. It usually starts fine first press, but takes three of 4 presses to turn the engine off. It does seem to stop ok if the button is held for a few seconds.

I don't see what was wrong with an old fashioned ignition key personally.
Title: Re: Possible Start button failure
Post by: SRGTD on 17 November 2023, 09:45
Our GTI seems to have a dodgy start button as well. It usually starts fine first press, but takes three of 4 presses to turn the engine off. It does seem to stop ok if the button is held for a few seconds.

I don't see what was wrong with an old fashioned ignition key personally.

Agree. My car has keyless entry / keyless start as part of the standard spec, but I’d never have paid extra for it.
Title: Re: Possible Start button failure
Post by: willni on 17 November 2023, 12:18
Our GTI seems to have a dodgy start button as well. It usually starts fine first press, but takes three of 4 presses to turn the engine off. It does seem to stop ok if the button is held for a few seconds.

I don't see what was wrong with an old fashioned ignition key personally.

Keyless Entry / Start - Stop was more likely in place for people that keep their keys in bags. As I don't know why anyone would want to sit with a bunch of keys in their pocket poking them.

Out of curiosity did the 3 doors gets anything in lieu of the keyless entry getting removed from its spec?
Title: Re: Possible Start button failure
Post by: Watts on 17 November 2023, 15:35
I like the keyless feature. Having keys/keyrings dangling used to annoy me. Whilst driving I keep them in the front cupholder.
Title: Re: Possible Start button failure
Post by: DanDuda48 on 06 January 2024, 10:49
My 2016 GTD has been having the same problems for the last 6 months. But it is very intermittent and unpredictable. I assume the contacts in the switch need cleaning or are just worn out.