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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Rob_benton on 05 January 2021, 12:30
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Hi
I’ve had the upper and lower inserts on my dsg for about a year now and decided I want to remover them or just the upper due to nvh. I’m thinking of just using the lower insert.
The 034 website says you shouldn’t fit the lower insert without the upper insert as there’s a risk of damage to the dog bone over time but before the upper was invented, everyone just used the lower.
Has anyone got any opinions of just using the lower insert ?
My car is a standard PP so no excess power.
And I’ve got the latest version.
Thanks
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Presumably if you have done this to a stock GTI PP, its to overcome wheel tramp?
Have you thought about:
1) better tyres (PS4)
2) lighter wheels
Both of those address wheel tramp without shaking out your fillings.
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Presumably if you have done this to a stock GTI PP, its to overcome wheel tramp?
Have you thought about:
1) better tyres (PS4)
2) lighter wheels
Both of those address wheel tramp without shaking out your fillings.
Yes and I’ve got PS4’s. No tramping but at the cost of nvh.
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The lower insert alone should be fine, it will add some additional vibration to the car/cabin when taking off if you don't mind that.
After some miles it does "dampen" a little and become less harsh. I have the Leyo dogbone lower insert in my car.
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Had the lower insert in my PP for 5 years with absolutely no issues as there was only the lower part then. Sounds like just marketing BS that it may cause damage.
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The lower insert alone should be fine, it will add some additional vibration to the car/cabin when taking off if you don't mind that.
After some miles it does "dampen" a little and become less harsh. I have the Leyo dogbone lower insert in my car.
I’m hoping nvh will be reduced without the upper insert and just the lower inserted fitted.
I’ve covered 5,000 miles with both fitted at it didn’t quite down a bit but not enough.
Thanks
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Had the lower insert in my PP for 5 years with absolutely no issues as there was only the lower part then. Sounds like just marketing BS that it may cause damage.
That’s what I’m thinking. Thanks
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The lower insert alone should be fine, it will add some additional vibration to the car/cabin when taking off if you don't mind that.
After some miles it does "dampen" a little and become less harsh. I have the Leyo dogbone lower insert in my car.
I’m hoping nvh will be reduced without the upper insert and just the lower inserted fitted.
I’ve covered 5,000 miles with both fitted at it didn’t quite down a bit but not enough.
Thanks
I can imagine it's a lot firmer with both, but I would say remove the top one and see how it feels. I am sure it should reduce the vibrations a fair bit.
I am making a fair amount of power over factory with just the lower insert and I have had no issues so far with plenty spirited driving around the mountains. :evil:
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You could try a poly lower insert, but I've heard these have more nvh than the metal ones.
Hopefully unless your doing lots of hard starts, you should be good with just the lower 0034 mount.
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Thanks for the info.
I’ve removed the upper insert and left the lower insert.
Massive difference to nvh.
It’s so much better.
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Thanks for the info.
I’ve removed the upper insert and left the lower insert.
Massive difference to nvh.
It’s so much better.
Hi Rob, just to add to this I have had the 034 lower mount in 4 years now with REVO stage 1. No issues here.
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Thanks for the info.
I’ve removed the upper insert and left the lower insert.
Massive difference to nvh.
It’s so much better.
Hi Rob, just to add to this I have had the 034 lower mount in 4 years now with REVO stage 1. No issues here.
Thanks. Appreciate that. Had a drive this morning as it’s sooo much better.
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I am running a 2016 car so version 2 of the insert, which looked less robust that the version 1 I had in my 2014 car.
I thought everything was fine too until I had to remove it, which proved to be a challenge. The insert was bent - see images below. I had no such issue with the version 1. Looking at your signature Rob you have a 2014 car so based on my experience you should be OK.
(https://i.postimg.cc/xTWyBKVS/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nCGDD9Ld)
(https://i.postimg.cc/W3bM08g0/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rd30kShp)
Excuse the gouge marks, they were inflicted by me with a pair of plumbing pliers trying to get the thing out, as the insert was nipping against the OEM mount due to the bends.
Once warmed I enjoy a spirited drive on some local B roads but no hard/times starts.
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I am running a 2016 car so version 2 of the insert, which looked less robust that the version 1 I had in my 2014 car.
I thought everything was fine too until I had to remove it, which proved to be a challenge. The insert was bent - see images below. I had no such issue with the version 1. Looking at your signature Rob you have a 2014 car so based on my experience you should be OK.
(https://i.postimg.cc/xTWyBKVS/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nCGDD9Ld)
(https://i.postimg.cc/W3bM08g0/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rd30kShp)
Excuse the gouge marks, they were inflicted by me with a pair of plumbing pliers trying to get the thing out, as the insert was nipping against the OEM mount due to the bends.
Once warmed I enjoy a spirited drive on some local B roads but no hard/times starts.
Wow. I’ve never seen the latest version bend like that. Version 1 yes.
I’ll keep an eye. Thanks