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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Mikeyd1 on 30 December 2020, 12:36
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Hi . My brother is going to pull the trigger on a 67 reg gti from a be dealership it’s a good price and he’s got a deal worked but when asking about service history the sales guys said it’s only had 1 by a independent in September which would make no service for 3 years . The car in question only has 16000 miles and is ex lease and the guy to close the deal said they will give it another service for peace of mind and it comes with the 2year warranty and 2 year mot cover. I’ve said to hold off for now until we get some advice. Me personally i thinks it’s not good but the car is priced reasonable. Anyone thoughts much appreciated
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That’ll be why it’s cheaper. Having said that, the fact it comes with a 2 year warranty for makes up for it although it depends on what the warrant covers, maybe worth checking.
It does seem odd that a lease car has not been serviced at a dealership.
So, you pays your money you makes your choice, for me if the deal is good, it’s from a dealer and comes with a warranty I’d go for it.
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That’ll be why it’s cheaper. Having said that, the fact it comes with a 2 year warranty for makes up for it although it depends on what the warrant covers, maybe worth checking.
It does seem odd that a lease car has not been serviced at a dealership.
So, you pays your money you makes your choice, for me if the deal is good, it’s from a dealer and comes with a warranty I’d go for it.
I had my GTI as a company car through Leaseplan and they would not let me get it serviced at the main dealer. So it went back in June at 2 years old with 2 services carried out at back street garages, one of which is only known as a tyre garage.
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If you’re looking to keep long term, i wouldn’t buy it because it’s a sign that the car may not have been well treated.
If you’re only going to keep for a couple of years, buy it.
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He reckons it will be a keeper, so I’m still not sure if he should go for it
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It’s a tricky one. It’ll probably be fine, but it’s a clear sign of a neglected car.
Surely there’s plenty on the market?
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Theoretically you can go 2 years / ~20k miles before needing a service on the variable servicing regime - so its not 'that' bad. Not great but not terrible. Personally if everything else with the car was OK, the price is right, 2 year warranty etc I'd buy it.
If its a keeper he could drop the sump and make sure the strainer etc is all clear.
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Well I’ve been looking about and seen a few in his price range but not from vw dealers so no 2 year warranty , I’ll keep looking tho
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Theoretically you can go 2 years / ~20k miles before needing a service on the variable servicing regime - so its not 'that' bad. Not great but not terrible. Personally if everything else with the car was OK, the price is right, 2 year warranty etc I'd buy it.
If its a keeper he could drop the sump and make sure the strainer etc is all clear.
This ^^. In three years on the long life regime it is entirely possible it needed only the one service. Use your senses, does the car look cared for? Given the service it will get before collection and the two year warranty, if it looks right, goes well, it'll likely be fine.
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Look at the tyres too see if they are all premium brands.If they are ditchfinders it looks as if other areas have been scrimped on too. The saving grace is that it has two year warranty and a new service.Is it in a Vw dealers ?
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Other than servicing and tyres what else is there to skimp on really? One's not that big a deal and the other is easily fixed.
Chances are the rear brakes will be on their last legs. And the rear speakers will be leaking. Seems to be a standard mk7 thing.
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Yes it’s in a be dealership they said it needs two tyres so will put on premium brand. But can’t say which brand untill today.
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If you’re looking to keep long term, i wouldn’t buy it because it’s a sign that the car may not have been well treated.
If you’re only going to keep for a couple of years, buy it.
I’d go with that too.
A friend of mine works for a hire and leasing company and they use tyre depot type places for the basic servicing (will assume they use a grade of oil that’ll be manufacturer approved) and non franchise body shops for any bodywork or paint repairs. I know they sell a lot of their cars to Arnold Clark and Bristol Street amongst other big chains.
I think whoever my work use for staff lease vehicles on a full maintenance and tyres regime also use Kwik Fit style depots for servicing etc.
The car will only be as good as the person who leased it, some will look after them reasonably well and some will just treat it like any of their other domestic appliances at best.
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A friend of mine works for a hire and leasing company and they use tyre depot type places for the basic servicing (will assume they use a grade of oil that’ll be manufacturer approved)
I would work on the assumption that there is approaching zero percent chance of that ! Just about every car on the road now has it's own "correct spec" of oil. Honestly, what is the likelihood that a tyre shop type place, KwikFit, whoever, has all the different specs and grades of oil lined up in the storeroom, let alone that the apprentice fitter who's given the job to do cares, knows or can be bothered to select the correct one. Plus, they will buy perhaps one or two popular grades in bulk and your car will be filled with one of them. Lease/Hire company's don't give a toss about the long term reliability of a car. It's a commodity to them that will be sold at auction after three years and it's residual value won't alter whether it's been properly serviced or not, hence they take it to the cheapest garage they can get away with. At least if you take the car to a VW dealer the fitter only has to choose from the different VW specs. Improves your chances slightly that you will get the correct grade. I've worked in industry long enough to know that what goes on in the workshop/stores won't be what is portrayed to the customer by the smiling blondes in the plush reception area...!
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Well look at another one today with my brother. This one is not at a vw dealership. It’s a x lease too but it’s had two oil changes one at 8000 and another at 17000 and is going to have one at vw dealership at 25600 on the 4th January. It has a few extras as art velour interior and Brescia alloys. The car looks mint but has two new tires on front vredstien I think? One thing tho when it’s vw for a service the radio needs looking at as the dab and fm don’t pick up a signal? So no vw warranty just the standard 6 month warranty it’s dsg rather than the manual in the other car . So what’s everybody input ? Thanks I’m advance
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This is a better prospect.I would always have a niggling doubt in the back of my mind with the first one.
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Yeh the first one is a good deal cause of the warrant but he’s not 100% comfortable with the way it’s been treated, the second one he really likes but not 100% with no vw warranty. He’s a hard guy to please but he’s buying outright so it’s quite a lot of money outright. It’s the radio thing what’s has him thinking the car is going to get ripped apart trying to find what’s wrong and will be left with squeaks and rattles.
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Yeh the first one is a good deal cause of the warrant but he’s not 100% comfortable with the way it’s been treated, the second one he really likes but not 100% with no vw warranty. He’s a hard guy to please but he’s buying outright so it’s quite a lot of money outright. It’s the radio thing what’s has him thinking the car is going to get ripped apart trying to find what’s wrong and will be left with squeaks and rattles.
I would say take your time. These are not rare cars- they are produced in big numbers. You may have to be patient, but it won't take long for a car with good history and right spec to come along.
It makes a massive difference to the ownership experience to get a good example. What you don't want is to buy a car that needs a new turbo or new clutch because it's been mistreated in previous ownership.
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Let’s be serious here, you can have a car that’s had a service every year by VW but you have no idea how it’s been driven. It could have been thrashed to buggery.
You could however buy a car with limited service history which may have been driven by miss daisy.
My point being you just don’t know how it’s been driven. Go with your gut, dive the car, listen to the engine when cold then warm. Listen for rattles in the engine or loud ticks (apart from the normal ones). Does the exhaust smoke a bit, is it blueish? Give it a good drive, check the acceleration, how does it sound at high revs, do the brakes feel good, do they judder? Make your decision on when you know.
As someone said earlier, there are plenty for sale so don’t just go for any old one as another will be for sale soon.
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Let’s be serious here, you can have a car that’s had a service every year by VW but you have no idea how it’s been driven. It could have been thrashed to buggery.
You could however buy a car with limited service history which may have been driven by miss daisy.
My point being you just don’t know how it’s been driven. Go with your gut, dive the car, listen to the engine when cold then warm. Listen for rattles in the engine or loud ticks (apart from the normal ones). Does the exhaust smoke a bit, is it blueish? Give it a good drive, check the acceleration, how does it sound at high revs, do the brakes feel good, do they judder? Make your decision on when you know.
As someone said earlier, there are plenty for sale so don’t just go for any old one as another will be for sale soon.
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Miss Daisy sat in the back, It's Hoke Colburn you want driving your car :cool:
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He’s made his mind and is going to get the dsg one from the non vw dealership he had a test drive already and it drives spot on we went down there in my gti so he’s got a good reference on how it’s meant to behave, it’s better spec and really nice condition I’ll try put in a link. It’s just waiting for the 3rd service and radio fm and dab reception to be fixed at the local volkswagin dealership . I haven’t got a clue what’s wrong with it everything else seems to work ie nav , CarPlay cds etc just no fm and dab. Here’s a link
https://youtu.be/W2KAniGuNvw
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Yeah....
That does look nice......
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If the cars only done 15000 miles and the lease company went by milage rather that age then it would have only needed one service in their eyes, my cars done 25000 miles was registered in April 2018 and has had two sevices... if it had only done 15000 it might only have had one :rolleyes:
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If the cars only done 15000 miles and the lease company went by milage rather that age then it would have only needed one service in their eyes, my cars done 25000 miles was registered in April 2018 and has had two sevices... if it had only done 15000 it might only have had one :rolleyes:
My company cars are all on extended service plans and so its extremely likely that the one service at 15,000 miles is correct and not an issue.
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If the cars only done 15000 miles and the lease company went by milage rather that age then it would have only needed one service in their eyes, my cars done 25000 miles was registered in April 2018 and has had two sevices... if it had only done 15000 it might only have had one :rolleyes:
My company cars are all on extended service plans and so its extremely likely that the one service at 15,000 miles is correct and not an issue.
You're wasting your time, this point has been made 3 or 4 times now including within a few comments from the start of this thread and has been ignored consistently :rolleyes:
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He got the one from the non Vw dealers and it drives spot . I know maybe the other one would be ok but no service for 3 years vs 1 a year . The car drives fantastic apart from the odd stone chip he’s a happy lad . If anything my dsg on my car is noticeably louder than he’s , he’s seems to be very quiet . But thanks for everyone s advice , it Gave him a lot to think about and helped him with his decisions. He will be joining this site soon, so I’m sure he will have loads of questions lol
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My car has been serviced 4 times by vw dealerships, and only one in the book, and one (a different one) on vw app,