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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Jamie.P on 15 December 2020, 19:34

Title: Servicing ?
Post by: Jamie.P on 15 December 2020, 19:34
Hi, I’ve just joined the group. I own a 2020 Golf GTI TCR.
I have a question on servicing if anyone can help ?. Generally I do approx 45k a year, this year abit different due to COVID so after purchasing in January I’ve reached 9500 miles. The light came on for an oil service, but I was under the impression the car was set to flexible servicing due to the mileage. When booking in VW Peter Cooper. They said that this  was wrong and would re set to flexible. Then not needing the oil service. I’ve read that all cars are already set to flexible ?? When new if this was the case then there was zero to reset. However they said it would still need a check. £85 to basically check the tyre depth, this for one can’t find out what this check service is for or if needed? Also there is no traditional service book and on the app I can’t find how to view on line. Can anyone help me find the online service book stamp and any info on this con of a service check. Many thanks other than these bits the car goes like a rocket 🚀.
Title: Re: Servicing ?
Post by: barrym381 on 16 December 2020, 22:12
If it was my car the oil would be done right away
Title: Re: Servicing ?
Post by: Phil245 on 17 December 2020, 17:18
Wow....

If I was lucky enough to own a TCR and had had it for a year and done 9.5k in it I would be very happy to have the oil change done.....

And if things ever get back to normal and you start doing 45k a year again surely you will be getting it serviced very frequently....?

A car like that deserves cosseting, it's an enthusiasts car, surely...?
Title: Re: Servicing ?
Post by: fredgroves on 17 December 2020, 18:43
I thought I racked the miles up! Hope someone is paying for the fuel and not you.. Surely an oil burner made more sense?

The car should be set to long life service but service and oil change are two different things. You should be able to find the service schedule for your car if you look at the online manual from vw where you put your registration number in.
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Post by: itavaltalainen on 17 December 2020, 22:26
45k a year in a petrol?
Wow, thought I was mad doing that in a GTD and now Leon ST FR with the GTD engine!
If it was my car I'd get the oil changed now.
Title: Re: Servicing ?
Post by: Jamie.P on 03 January 2021, 17:15
It’s not bad on fuel 35/ 45 mpg had a Lexus IS before hybrid only 35mpg average.  I got a good deal on the golf 0% and a decent discount if brought before 31st 2020 change of shape and brexit. How do you find this service log, VW uk have said it can only be accessible from dealer ? I was hopping it would be a bit of enthusiast car to help on not so much depreciation.
Title: Re: Servicing ?
Post by: Jamie.P on 03 January 2021, 17:18
I do claim my fuel back, I get car allowance instead of the company car option.
Title: Re: Servicing ?
Post by: fredgroves on 03 January 2021, 18:37
You can order a paper service book, I have one for my Mk7.5 even though about the time I got mine it went digital only.

I don't believe you can access the service record online, the data belongs to VW.

I've no idea how a digital service record works if say WBAC want to see it or if you want a third party to service your car. Which is why I got a paper book...

Once they have set it to long life, it will be 2 years or 20,000 miles for a service.

New cars are normally set to long life, but its part of the PDI, maybe they got it wrong. It can be changed, its just a computer change on the car - they once got it wrong on my GTD after a service and I had to get them to change it. No harm done, no different oil...

How long are you planning on keeping this? That's punishing miles.

Also, HMRC fuel claims are advisory at 11p a mile, you are roughly paying £1.42 every 35 miles in fuel out of your own pocket... unless your employer pays you more, which can set you on a collision course with HMRC and a tax bill...
Title: Re: Servicing ?
Post by: ub7rm on 03 January 2021, 21:21
Actually anyone can view a digital service history in erWin - you have to register.  For ~7Eur you can buy access for an hour, download all repair manuals and update the digital service history yourself. 
Title: Re: Servicing ?
Post by: Exonian on 03 January 2021, 21:38
I was hopping it would be a bit of enthusiast car to help on not so much depreciation.

The trouble with enthusiast cars is the enthusiasts themselves.
Enthusiasts generally want their cars (if bought second hand) very low miles, thousands worth of extras (which they’ll rarely want to pay much more for the privilege of getting) and paintwork that looks like it’s never been out in the rain.
A two year old enthusiast car with 90k and more than a few stonechips isn't going to set car nerd pulses racing. Still, if you’re doing 45k a year it’s much nicer to do it in something that sets your own pulse racing!

Keep the receipts from all your servicing and repairs including tyre purchases, brakes replaced etc and therein lies the best service history you can have.
Title: Re: Servicing ?
Post by: Philip on 04 January 2021, 07:06
At that kind of annual mileage the DSG oil and VAQ fluid will need changing well before the three years at which the VW service schedule should, but may not..., flag them as necessary.  I guess that to manage 45k miles a year it must be mostly motorway driving so if you use ACC a lot get used to frequent rear brake disk changes as well.
Title: Re: Servicing ?
Post by: fredgroves on 04 January 2021, 09:19
Yes, good point - watch out for the VAQ oil change - its not part of the service regime but absolutely is critical.

Normally 3 years is the time when you do it, but whether mileage makes any difference has never been discussed. I would have thought it should come into it, but its never been mentioned.

I have always thought though that these long life serice regimes for business users are a bit iffy. A lot can go wrong in 20k - more than just an oil change.

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Post by: colsay on 04 January 2021, 13:38
At that kind of annual mileage the DSG oil and VAQ fluid will need changing well before the three years at which the VW service schedule should, but may not..., flag them as necessary.  I guess that to manage 45k miles a year it must be mostly motorway driving so if you use ACC a lot get used to frequent rear brake disk changes as well.

Does the ACC just operate the rear brakes when it needs to reduce speed?
Title: Re: Servicing ?
Post by: fredgroves on 04 January 2021, 13:58
At that kind of annual mileage the DSG oil and VAQ fluid will need changing well before the three years at which the VW service schedule should, but may not..., flag them as necessary.  I guess that to manage 45k miles a year it must be mostly motorway driving so if you use ACC a lot get used to frequent rear brake disk changes as well.

Does the ACC just operate the rear brakes when it needs to reduce speed?

It comes off the throttle, if you have DSG it changes down too.... but it can only apply 25% of the maximum braking force, which suggests it probably is the rears. That figure is from the workshop tutorial btw.

On the other hand, I use ACC a lot over a lot of distance and I've never had excessively worn rear disks vs the fronts.
Title: Re: Servicing ?
Post by: colsay on 04 January 2021, 15:35
At that kind of annual mileage the DSG oil and VAQ fluid will need changing well before the three years at which the VW service schedule should, but may not..., flag them as necessary.  I guess that to manage 45k miles a year it must be mostly motorway driving so if you use ACC a lot get used to frequent rear brake disk changes as well.

Does the ACC just operate the rear brakes when it needs to reduce speed?

It comes off the throttle, if you have DSG it changes down too.... but it can only apply 25% of the maximum braking force, which suggests it probably is the rears. That figure is from the workshop tutorial btw.

On the other hand, I use ACC a lot over a lot of distance and I've never had excessively worn rear disks vs the fronts.

Thx for the info, much appreciated.
Title: Re: Servicing ?
Post by: Rudedog on 04 January 2021, 21:44
I took advantage of the recent Black Friday deal on the service plans which will be a new way of doing things for me in all of my 30 years of VW ownership, can you guys tell me if I'll still receive a parts invoice each time so I can keep a tab of what has actually been changed?

I bought my car outright so will be changing it to yearly servicing in March when it hits it's second year (I asked for car to have it's year one service before I bought it last August).

Interesting that the car count downs to each service apart from it seems the DSG and maybe the brake fluid, or does it?
Title: Re: Servicing ?
Post by: fredgroves on 04 January 2021, 21:56
You get the invoice just not with pounds notes against each item.

The variable service is more than time and distance, it's calculated by all sorts of driving data and an oil condition sensor. That gives you an idea of when it needs to visit a garage and the inspection part of the service checks over all of the various components at different intervals. It's quite well thought out, except for the vaq diff lol
Title: Re: Servicing ?
Post by: SRGTD on 04 January 2021, 22:02
I took advantage of the recent Black Friday deal on the service plans which will be a new way of doing things for me in all of my 30 years of VW ownership, can you guys tell me if I'll still receive a parts invoice each time so I can keep a tab of what has actually been changed?

I bought my car outright so will be changing it to yearly servicing in March when it hits it's second year (I asked for car to have it's year one service before I bought it last August).

Interesting that the car count downs to each service apart from it seems the DSG and maybe the brake fluid, or does it?

The service invoices I received for my previous car that was serviced under VW’s service plan didn’t list the consumable items - it merely stated that the service had been carried out. I don’t know if that’s the standard approach used by all VW dealers or if some dealers do itemise all parts / consumables that are used or replaced during the service. Before I bought VW service plans, my dealer certainly used to provide me with a fully itemised invoice for each service. I may ask them for an itemised invoice next time, even though I have a service plan.

None of my previous four VW’s have displayed a ‘brake fluid change due’ message, although the dealer has always reminded me when it’s due. I’m assuming there’s no reminder message for the DSG service either.
Title: Re: Servicing ?
Post by: Rudedog on 04 January 2021, 22:27
That's what I was afraid of and an indication to the dumbing down of ownership especially for the long-term private owner, of course once we are all running EVs then the amount of servicing consumables will be even less, maybe they are gearing us up for that?

Anyhow, without a parts invoice I have no real way of knowing, for instance, that I've received an anti-allergen cabin filter over the carbon one when the time comes (?year two service).

Title: Re: Servicing ?
Post by: fredgroves on 04 January 2021, 22:50
It was on my paperwork each time I used the service pack... I always got the same paperwork from the dealer with my mk7 too and that was leased.

Seriously, just ask if they don't offer.

They have to produce that for vw uk to reimburse them.
Title: Re: Servicing ?
Post by: Jamie.P on 16 February 2021, 07:09
Fred groves I get car allowance and HMRC guidelines 45p first ten thousand miles 25p all miles after. 
I will probably keep to 2 years old. The get something else, with the pandemic has been useful on miles in year one, I’ve only one 11000.  Cheers for all the comments 😎
Title: Re: Servicing ?
Post by: willni on 18 February 2021, 22:31
Assuming you'll be handing the car back, but I'd definitely be changing the oil every 10k miles minimum. I did 6k servicing on my GTD when I was doing 22k miles a year, I've also changed to a GTI but I'll resume servicing intervals at every 6k.

Even if it's just a mate that has a ramp and it costs £60 you're always better with fresh oil  :smiley: