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Title: Front tyres need replacing, do rears as well?
Post by: sjw on 14 December 2020, 14:15
My front tyres are at or near the legal limit, and I'll need to get them sorted before the MOT later this month.

The rears are in between 3 and 4 mm. Are these worth swapping as well? I have P Zeros at the moment and was looking to change to PS4Ss. If I change just the fronts, I'm thinking it might be best to stick with Pirellis, which would mean I won't be swapping to Michelins any time soon. Are the Michelins worth swapping all at once? I know there's a 10% off Michelins at Black Circles

If I'm changing them all, I _might_ get new alloys as well. What would you guys choose between 19s and PS4Ss and 18s with PS4s? I have DCC
Title: Re: Front tyres need replacing, do rears as well?
Post by: Watts on 14 December 2020, 14:52
You don't have to change the rears obviously, but if it was me I'd put 4 new PS4S on. I found them a big improvement over P-Zeros but that was a few years ago and the P-Zeros on my 7.5 are different. Having said that, they feel very similar and I'll be pleased when I do change them. As for 19s vs 18s, purely down to personal preference.
Title: Re: Front tyres need replacing, do rears as well?
Post by: sjw on 14 December 2020, 14:56
You don't have to change the rears obviously, but if it was me I'd put 4 new PS4S on. I found them a big improvement over P-Zeros but that was a few years ago and the P-Zeros on my 7.5 are different. Having said that, they feel very similar and I'll be pleased when I do change them. As for 19s vs 18s, purely down to personal preference.

I posted before about whether to get my wheels refurbed, or switch to 18s, and didn't leave with a solid decision. I'm thinking now maybe I shouldn't bother getting the refurb done and just eat the price come PCP end time. That way, just 19" tyres will be the cheaper option. Having said that, the 18 inch PS4 is way cheaper than the 19" PS4S, so if I get a single puncture I might end up wishing I'd downsized and got the new alloys
Title: Re: Front tyres need replacing, do rears as well?
Post by: Watts on 14 December 2020, 15:17
Is it whiteworm or kerbing damage?
Title: Re: Front tyres need replacing, do rears as well?
Post by: sjw on 14 December 2020, 15:35
Bit of both. Some WW around kerb damage, some in the middle of the wheel. I put a warranty claim in with VW months ago, but I've given up waiting
Title: Re: Front tyres need replacing, do rears as well?
Post by: dubber36 on 14 December 2020, 15:41
How long has your PCP got left to run?

If it's got long enough to get through at least half a set of tyres all round, I'd fit new Michelins to the front wheels, but swap them to the rear. That way you'll wear the P Zeros faster on the front ready for another pair of Michelins to give you the matching set whilst getting all your monies worth from the Pirellis.

Title: Re: Front tyres need replacing, do rears as well?
Post by: sjw on 14 December 2020, 15:48
It's got about 18 months left. Might do that you know, not sure.

I guess I'm partly thinking about the winter coming up, and making sure I have as much tread as possible
Title: Re: Front tyres need replacing, do rears as well?
Post by: itavaltalainen on 14 December 2020, 17:35
I'd swap the old ones diagonally to the front and put the Michelins on the back.
That way you will wear the Pirellis out on the front in about 4-5k miles.
Title: Re: Front tyres need replacing, do rears as well?
Post by: sjw on 14 December 2020, 20:23
My only concern with that is I'm not going to experience the added benefits of having PS4Ss? That is, grip from the front end, everyone says is awesome on PS4Ss on this car.
Title: Re: Front tyres need replacing, do rears as well?
Post by: sjw on 15 December 2020, 11:51
I have one vote for change the fronts, and one for change them all. Any other input? Cheers for the advice so far guys
Title: Re: Front tyres need replacing, do rears as well?
Post by: mcmaddy on 15 December 2020, 12:01
Replace them all. Something to consider is that the 18" PS4 is a different tyre to the 19" PS4s. The PS4s is a better tyre. I hated the PS4 set I had on my pp GTi, found them far too soft in the sidewall. Very grippy but I didn't like the wallowy feel they gave.
Title: Re: Front tyres need replacing, do rears as well?
Post by: sjw on 15 December 2020, 12:44
Is it worth asking to keep my existing rears? As a contingency if I get a puncture in the new tyres soon after getting them fitted? It's not that money is tight, but I have to bear in mind the financial aspect especially around xmas
Title: Re: Front tyres need replacing, do rears as well?
Post by: Yusee on 15 December 2020, 17:18
I’d change all 4 - PS4S.
3mm is when I would look to change anyway
You’ve got dcc so you can stick to 19s without compromise.
Doesn’t seem to be a good reason to drop to 18s. There’s not that much difference in tyre price, is there?
Title: Re: Front tyres need replacing, do rears as well?
Post by: sjw on 15 December 2020, 17:34
An 18" PS4 is about £60 cheaper fitted than a 19" PS4S. That's about 36%

I've gone for all 4, keeping the 19s.
Title: Re: Front tyres need replacing, do rears as well?
Post by: Watts on 15 December 2020, 17:58
Wise decision. Nothing much better than new quality tyres especially at this time of year. My car went from the Pirellis with regular tramping even in warm dry conditions to hardly ever getting tramping with the Michelins. Plus a more comfortable ride.
Title: Re: Front tyres need replacing, do rears as well?
Post by: Yusee on 15 December 2020, 19:06
Wow, that’s quite a price difference. Glad I didn’t spec 19s
Title: Re: Front tyres need replacing, do rears as well?
Post by: sjw on 16 December 2020, 10:07
Wow, that’s quite a price difference. Glad I didn’t spec 19s

I don't know if I would have specced them, but they came on the car and I do quite like the look (when they're clean  :laugh:)
Title: Re: Front tyres need replacing, do rears as well?
Post by: sjw on 16 December 2020, 10:10
Wise decision. Nothing much better than new quality tyres especially at this time of year. My car went from the Pirellis with regular tramping even in warm dry conditions to hardly ever getting tramping with the Michelins. Plus a more comfortable ride.

Thanks. WRT to time of year, that was part of my thinking. I know they're a summer tyre, but I'm not doing many miles now due to COVID so anything else would seem a waste - I don't reckon I'll be back to work until at least April. The tramping is one of my least favourite things about this car - I've been wanting to try these Michelins for a while now, see if it makes any diffference.

Get them fitted on Friday