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Model specific boards => Golf mk8 => Topic started by: fredgroves on 14 December 2020, 13:19
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Drum roll please... lol
After everything conspiring to deny me what I thought was going to happen almost a year ago, finally I got my Mk8 GTI test drive.
As far as I could tell (or the salesman could...) it was a basic GTI DSG with no options. In white.
Now remember I come from a Mk7.5 GTD with a manual box, so its a little different to start with for me.
Seats are comfy - better than I expected, more grippy laterally than the Mk7.5 at the shoulders and your bum.
Digital dash itself reasonably clear, the MIB unit not quite so much. I couldn't find out during my test drive if it was possible to change the colours at all - red isn't great for my eyesight, but it was ok. The speedo and rev counter etc were nice and big and clear, no worries.
Little gear selector thingy wasn't annoying to me - ok so I kept trying to grab the gear lever, but I drive a manual so of course... but in terms of selecting drive modes, i found it no bother. It functions.
The haptic buttons on the steering wheel are annoying, feel dreadful and I don't know how many times I put the heated steering wheel on.... I think I'd probably get used to it. If I could tick an option to remove them, I would.
The stereo sounded ok, the sat nav worked - nice to have proper traffic data without hooking up your phone. I think the new sat nav display is clearer than the Mk7's one. Pathing algorythm is still dumber than a dumb thing though. Couldn't work out how or if it was possible to get the map on the AID. I presume it is, I couldn't work out how. Stereo no longer has the brains box in the glove box. There are no SD card slots, there are two USB ports above the dash cubby hole (which no longer is a cubby hole, its a spring loaded clippy thing to keep your phone on the wireless charging pad)
The back of the car is still notably noisy, there is a definite exhaust sound from the rear (not the fake noise) when driving along and the wind noise is definitely a thing. Road noise, not so much but I'll come back to that in a bit.
Performance wise, she flies! Very flat handling round corners, feels like she wants to turn in always. Sport mode does hold the gears a bit too much, but from what you say on here, that's nothing new. Really very agile and rapid - like I'd expect a GTI to be. I didn't try the flappy paddles - I forgot actually. Yes, even without DCC you have two levels of suspension settings too. I tried the worst road I could think of. In sport it was firm but not harsh. My dentures did not escape my mouth. In comfort it was better and equally never wallowy when giving it some welly. Never upset by bumps at all in either mode. Impressive.
ACC.... oh thats interesting! It has the latest version of ACC which uses nav data as well. It spots roundabouts and tight corners and slows down. Eventually I managed to find a clear run at a roundabout and it slowed down and took me over it at a slowish speed - if anything, maybe a little too slow, like a little old lady. Hmmm. Definitely interesting though. If you have to brake approaching the roadabout though because something is coming round, then of course ACC comes off. ACC through tight bends is interesting, it brakes but not when you'd expect it to do so. I didn't die, so it must work lol. ACC also uses map data and traffic signs to lower your cruise speed. I went from a 70 down to 50 and it changed and braked.
Lane assist - after it jinking me round a few corners like some weird tramline thing, I turned it off. Its ok on proper roads, country roads... errr no. Its either going to take me into a pothole or kill a cyclist. Relatively simple to turn it off but it does come back every time you start the car.... thanks EU!
Voice control.... no included as standard. Well, I tried the button, it didn't work, hard to say for sure though with those haptic buttons.
So back at the dealers, I got a chance to look at some other GTI's he had and spot some differences.
White - the one I drove. Filthy. It got totally minging, the headlamp washer spray marks are still on the roof, the back end still sucks up muck. Don't choose white.
Kings Red - was my favourite. No longer. Its a sort of burgundy. The GTI red flashes don't match the KR colour. Looks not great at all. Reminds me of the colour my grandparents' car was. Urgh.
Dr Evil Grey - looks great actually.
Dolphin Grey - I wouldn't cry if Japanese fishermen killed all of these and took them away so I don't have to buy one.
Reflex Silver - oh yeah baby! This looks brilliant actually. The black bits contrast nicely, as do the red accents. Definitely the best colour I saw.
Wheels - the standard 18's are ghastly. Sorry they just need chucking in a hedge. The 19's look waaaay better. Reflex Silver with 19's? Bob on I must say. Except for the demonstrator, all of their GTI's had 19's.
Interesting factoid for you though.... tyres.... 18's are Goodyear F1's. 19's are.... Hankook Ventus S1evo3's. No BS's but equally.... no PS4's.
Overall my opinion is that its actually a rather nice car. Drives well, comfy, good technology, looks better than it first seems.... but those bloody haptic buttons. Oh well. No, I'd have a Mk8 GTI and I yet still might.
I have a day out with BMW to come, I will compare and contrast later but I will say this....I've definitely not left VW at this point.
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Good write up Fred. Thanks for sharing, some interesting insight in there.
Headlamp washers though? I didn't realise it had them? :undecided:
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I presume it was that.... its definitely got those classic ming marks on the room that you get from using the washer...
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So my choice would be GTI DSG, Reflex Silver, 19's and HUD - RRP £36,935.00
And according to the ever so trustworthy configurator, voice control for audio and sat nav is included. It just didn't work when i tried it.
Still no idea what NavPro adds - the "internet and streaming" is included in the basic unit too - I saw the setup screen today and it needs a phone connected, which I did not do.
The radio channel selector btw includes not just DAB (I didn't see FM or MW btw...) but also "Internet Radio". No idea how that works, but sounds promising. Unless you want to listen to some obscure non-digital channel.
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thanks for taking the time to write up, Fred.
How do you think the ride compared to your 7.5 gtd?
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thanks for taking the time to write up, Fred.
How do you think the ride compared to your 7.5 gtd?
Definitely flatter handling, definitely more refined over terrible roads - that's not to say my 7.5 is bad at all and I'm without DCC on my Mk7.5 (I had it on the Mk7 before it but ditched it and never looked back).
I'd agree with all of the press writeups, they have done a great job on the ride and handling and I'll aslo say something else too - this doesn't feel like the old petrol engines I've had - you don't need to rev the crap out of it for it to pickup.... its more like a diesel! If anything up towards the red line it seems to run out of steam, which makes the rev holding of sports mode worse now I think about it.
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Sounds like a damn good hot hatch to me.
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I think it probably is very good, its just a real shame that they made some terrible choices alongside some impressive automotive engineering.
I'd go as far as to say though I'd be prepared to live with the gripes to get the rest though.
The reflex silver one wasn't spoken for at the dealership.... I very almost said "here's my money, give me the keys!"
But I am going to finish this analysis and drive the BMW.... more on that when I've done it. Tell you what though, I thought the BMW was a dead cert.... today, I'm not sure at all.
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I'd agree with all of the press writeups, they have done a great job on the ride and handling and I'll aslo say something else too - this doesn't feel like the old petrol engines I've had - you don't need to rev the crap out of it for it to pickup.... its more like a diesel! If anything up towards the red line it seems to run out of steam, which makes the rev holding of sports mode worse now I think about it.
This was the same on the MK7, the IS20 turbo was great at low revs with plenty of torque making it great to drive most of the time however when pressed just as it was getting exciting it went flat. One of the reasons I swapped to the TCR, the IS38 turbo revs out much better.
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Firstly, great title for this new topic.
Really interesting to see how much you rated it. I was convinced you’d buy the bmw. Maybe not!
Do you think the gti needs dcc as a lot of reviews have inferred?
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I nearly went for the Reflex Silver but in the end ordered KR, oh well, someone has to drive one 🙄
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Firstly, great title for this new topic.
Really interesting to see how much you rated it. I was convinced you’d buy the bmw. Maybe not!
Do you think the gti needs dcc as a lot of reviews have inferred?
Cheers. Not on eighteens it doesn't. The road i took it down is mental and it was still OK in sport, a lot better in comfort.
I'm thinking with the ninteens you get a different suspension tune... I'm gambling on it being tolerable actually.
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I nearly went for the Reflex Silver but in the end ordered KR, oh well, someone has to drive one 🙄
LOL it's not terrible but parked next to a tornado red mk7 it looked not racey at all.
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Firstly, great title for this new topic.
Really interesting to see how much you rated it. I was convinced you’d buy the bmw. Maybe not!
Do you think the gti needs dcc as a lot of reviews have inferred?
Cheers. Not on eighteens it doesn't. The road i took it down is mental and it was still OK in sport, a lot better in comfort.
I'm thinking with the ninteens you get a different suspension tune... I'm gambling on it being tolerable actually.
You’re taking a gamble? Sounds like you’ve made your mind up there Fred. Gti it is.
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No I mean gamble as in if I order the gti I'll have nineteens and no dcc... And nobody i know has tried that yet!
The trigger gets pulled after the BMW drive. I've got one of those for a whole day soon. I had the gti for just an hour.
My bmw spec is locked in, so it's just a case of how the two perform in bog standard spec. Bmw is not on dcc and eighteens too.
If I wasn't such a testing freak I'd have ordered the gti today and been happy.
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Looking forward to your thoughts Fred. Sure it’s a decision lots of us will be looking at.
You fancy giving the Clubsport a drive?
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Didn't you already drive a 135i Fred? If so, how does the GTi compare to that?
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I don't think I'll give the clubby a go actually. Today proved the gti is plenty quick enough. I'd sooner spend the cash on some options rather than power.
The same is true with the m135i.
I drove that a year ago now and it's quick, it's flat handling and comfy. In fact it felt like it's on rails... Maybe too much on rails looking back. The gti felt more frisky and keener to turn in. Dsg is much smoother than the BMW torque converter eight speed. However if you had just driven the m135i you'd have been happy. Its a kessel run record breaker for sure.
The thing with today is that the mk8 feels like a golf. I was able to just chuck it around in a very familiar way. Sure its not the same as my gtd in many ways, but in lots it is. I won't be nearly as confident with the BMW test drive.
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Glad to hear you’ve finally had your test drive pity you only got an hour with the car.
It’s good to hear your thoughts and as a fan of ACC not sure whether I like the direction it’s going in (yes I appreciate it’s all part of drive towards autonomous driving.) I think it was the part about slowing down for bends that I didn’t like. I like to judge that myself and take action accordingly.
Much as lane assist is also a great innovation in theory, it does sound like it can lead to some issues out on the road.
Thanks for your rundown of colours ( probably slightly academic now for me personally as Mk8 enthusiasm waning) I do still like the Kings Red, but not matching the red GTI accents would make me think twice.
Not sure if it’s been mentioned previously but I had a look at some 1 series and it was interesting to see the position of the heated steering wheel button on the BMW.......it was far more logical in being out of the way and you don’t press it unless you want it. On the three spoke steering wheel it’s on bottom vertical spoke closest to centre of steering wheel. So away from all the cruise control, radio, cruise control or digital dash controls.
The VW steering wheel does seem to have hit a problem all round with reviewers.
I watched the volkswizard comparison between M135i and S3 and the interior of BMW looked far more special so I can totally see why BMW seem to have gained so many supporters
Look forward to hearing your thoughts on the next test drive, hope you get it in soon
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Hey Andy,
Yes, my dealer only let me have 45 minutes... but that turned into an hour due to traffic jams - i did get a chance to see how good the nav was at getting around traffic problems - basically, it isn't - just like the Mk7.5 lol
I really like the automated driving tech - most of my driving isn't fun driving, its just driving. If I can get there feeling less exhausted then I'm happy with that. VW seem to be ahead in the tech game still though - BMW's tech is both not quite as good and paid for options. My 128 spec includes both digital dash and driving assistant - both expensive options. Even then I don't think either are going to be as good as the Mk8, maybe only just about on par with the Mk7.5.
Lane assist is as of 2020 mandatory on EVERY (new model) car - you won't escape it. All versions of it are unsuited to UK roads IMHO. Auto re-enabled at every start. Needs a mod with ODB11.
BMW get around the heating steering wheel option in a pragmatic way - you have to pay for it. Job done, don't pay.
The Golf's steering wheel is probably its weakest point. I didn't find the rest of the interior actually that objectionable.
My 128 test drive is next week - one of the unfortunate things though is that almost certainly the tech I want to test won't be on the demonstrator.
My biggest concern with the BMW though is comfort - BMW (particularly Mini) are notorious for uncomfortable seats unless you spec the full M Sport ones - which you can't do in the UK on a 128ti (and even if you did they don't match the rest of the car - just like the leather ones also look like they have been badly retro fitted). BMW's also lack seat belt height adjusters. So this rather basic fuinctional element is probably where the whole thing hangs - not clever suspension, not 0-60 times, not even the bloody steering wheel, the seats....
If find that rather frustrating and dissapointing if I am honest. We'll see.
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A good write up Fred.
Think you could live with those steering wheels buttons and the general user interface of the Mk8?
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A good write up Fred.
Think you could live with those steering wheels buttons and the general user interface of the Mk8?
I think I probably could - I just think its going to take more time to get used to than the mechanical buttons of the Mk7 though.
Which seems daft. It was a leap too far and its going to cost them dearly because most people won't see it as progress or something they could get used to.
I've managed to get my hands on a user guide for the Mk8 now - quick google image search for a UK mk8, stick the reg plate into the VW online user manual.
It's interesting. There are even more clever bits of tech buried in it than meets the eye. All sorts of safety systems that work in conjuction with the car. I don't think I've seen any car with as much advanced electronics actually. Much like the Mk7 was technically far more advanced than the competition, the Mk8 still is - its just that a lot of it isn't headline grabbing.
For example, it has a system that can detect oncoming traffic when you overtake and swerve you back into your lane. Seen that before? Nope, nobody has written about that. I tell you why, its because none of the reviewers have bothered to read the manual! It's not the only system either, there are dozens of new clever bits.
No reviews talk about the ACC with roundabout and bend detection either - not a sausage. I've only seen that written about by an article on a "new" Passat maybe 18 months ago. Nothing since.
Car2X? Nobody else apart from VAG has that yet. Where are you BMW?
However, all of this has gone to waste because everything said about the Mk8 is about the sub-optimal user interface that is not familiar enough. They do need a slap for that.
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I know what you mean. Even Audi hasn't gone this far and the new Skodas and Seats/Cupras are still using button on the wheel and the dash. I think they have tried to be too clever and it will definitely backfire. They also failed to make it look fantastic from the outside as well. Not a great combination.
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I know what you mean. Even Audi hasn't gone this far and the new Skodas and Seats/Cupras are still using button on the wheel and the dash. I think they have tried to be too clever and it will definitely backfire. They also failed to make it look fantastic from the outside as well. Not a great combination.
I've just ordered a new large family car, and for me the physical HAVC buttons were a big factor in decision. I can just about live with buttonless infotainment (because most of what I do is on Carplay/Siri), but the thought of being fully loaded and having to look down at screens (especially in the dark) when all I want to do is adjust the temperature, left me cold towards Audi Q7 and my money went elsewhere.
:)
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My 128 test drive is next week
Or not as it would seem.... some sort of BMW related problem with getting demonstrators registered this year :cry:
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Had a test drive as well. There is a definite exhaust/road noise drone on the motorway. Around town, the exhaust is quite noisy too - tried eco and comfort modes but didn't seem that different.
Steering wheel buttons - oh dear..... I didn't manage to put the steering wheel heating on but then I didn't manage to do anything else with them either :laugh:. They feel cheap and nasty - like something from a budget car.
Nice environment to sit in - was pleasantly surprised as thought it might be too minimalist. Felt 'cocooned' and comfortable in the seat and nice driving position. Didn't get to play with the touch screen too much as didn't have a long test drive. The temperature control and volume buttons were a bit of a faff. Not that many cubby holes - only really the one under the arm rest.
Ride comfort was a bit harsh for me on rougher roads - was on 18s and standard suspension with comfort setting.
I guess I could get used to the buttons/interface issues (but should we have to on a car such as this? :angry:)
The 2 issues for me are ride comfort and noise. I guess DCC would take care of the ride so that just leaves the exhaust. For hardened hot hatch owners (most of you) that is unlikely to be an issue, probably a positive. For me, who is really only after a 'petrol GTD', I'm not sure I could live with it.
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Ride comfort was a bit harsh for me on rougher roads - was on 18s and standard suspension with comfort setting.
What are you currently driving? GTD with 18's and DCC?
The 2 issues for me are ride comfort and noise. I guess DCC would take care of the ride so that just leaves the exhaust. For hardened hot hatch owners (most of you) that is unlikely to be an issue, probably a positive. For me, who is really only after a 'petrol GTD', I'm not sure I could live with it.
Its funny, a lot of talk is always about making a Golf exhaust louder.... I don't know, is a Mk7.5 GTI as noisy??
My Mk7 and Mk7.5 GTD's were both noisy at the back, but not exhaust noisy, just road noise.
You don't think the "exhaust" noise is actually a fake internal sound effect? I didn't try setting an individual profile with the fake noise turned down to eco.... just wondering now if it was that? On my GTD I've got it set like that.
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Ride comfort was a bit harsh for me on rougher roads - was on 18s and standard suspension with comfort setting.
What are you currently driving? GTD with 18's and DCC?
The 2 issues for me are ride comfort and noise. I guess DCC would take care of the ride so that just leaves the exhaust. For hardened hot hatch owners (most of you) that is unlikely to be an issue, probably a positive. For me, who is really only after a 'petrol GTD', I'm not sure I could live with it.
Its funny, a lot of talk is always about making a Golf exhaust louder.... I don't know, is a Mk7.5 GTI as noisy??
My Mk7 and Mk7.5 GTD's were both noisy at the back, but not exhaust noisy, just road noise.
Currently driving a Fiesta ST Line. Fully expect a performance Golf to be a lot harsher (have test driven 7.5 GTD & GTI) and it sounds like the latest DCC will make it compliant enough for me. I live in a city and lots of poor roads.
I wasn't expecting the exhaust, though. From what I had read, I thought it had been toned down a bit, but it seemed at least as loud, if not louder, than a 7.5 GTI PP.
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You don't think the "exhaust" noise is actually a fake internal sound effect? I didn't try setting an individual profile with the fake noise turned down to eco.... just wondering now if it was that? On my GTD I've got it set like that.
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Could be, but I tried both ECO and comfort modes and couldn't really tell any difference. It felt like more of a real exhaust note coming from the rear rather than something 'piped in'.
I'm not complaining - it's a performance car after all. It just means it might not be for me.
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To answer a couple of questions.
The dash lights/display can be changed to any colour you want using a sliding scale on the Touch screen.
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The exhaust is fake, when you set up an individual driving profile it asks you if you want a sporty sound etc.
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Excellent! Thanks Dave!
What about getting the map up on the dash? Is that possible without nav Pro?
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I think its the upgraded sat nav that does that, in fairness I haven’t used the sat nav at all so will see if I can get an answer to that at the weekend when I have more time.
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OK thanks Dave. I'm trying real hard to figure out what exactly the nav Pro actually gives you and failing. No vw documentation can explain it!
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Someone on the R Forum gave a really clear and concise answer to what Nav Pro gave you. I agree with you the VW description really leaves you scratching you head and saying, is that it.
Obviously the biggest thing with the old system was, you get a bigger screen but as all UK midels have the big screen, that element has gone. One part I do remember, with Nav Pro you can have Sat Nav on both screens simultaneously.
Thanks for your thoughts after your test drive, it’s funny how seeing things in black and white makes it sink in... as per your comment about Lane Assist being mandatory so I’ll have to get use to it if I want a new car.
Likewise, some of the reviews mentioned the predictive ACC and using GPS/Sat Nav to drive to road layout but not until your comment about going over roundabout did I appreciate the level the system could achieve.
Right I’ll see if I can find that Nav Pro summary
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“Philc22 found a bit of info online about the Pro Nav.. "The Discover Navigation Pro system includes additional equipment such as natural voice control, media and streaming services direct to the car, gesture control, and dual map display on the infotainment and digital cockpit pro".
Hope that makes things a bit clearer. Does seem to be rather expense option to get this tech added
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We don’t seem to have the option for the Discover Pro in Ireland although it is standard on the GTE along with the Active Info Display for some reason.
Currently have a MK7.5 with Discover Pro + Active Info so will be strange not having the map in the dash in the MK8...
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To answer a couple of questions.
The dash lights/display can be changed to any colour you want using a sliding scale on the Touch screen.
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The exhaust is fake, when you set up an individual driving profile it asks you if you want a sporty sound etc.
Re exhaust, I tried the ECO and Comfort settings and couldn't hear much difference. Is that what you are referring to?
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“Philc22 found a bit of info online about the Pro Nav.. "The Discover Navigation Pro system includes additional equipment such as natural voice control, media and streaming services direct to the car, gesture control, and dual map display on the infotainment and digital cockpit pro".
Hope that makes things a bit clearer. Does seem to be rather expense option to get this tech added
Thanks Andy. That does make sense sort of.
Media and streaming is definitely a basic nav function - I've seen it.
Gesture control - yes, like my current Mk7.5 NavPro gesture control - utterly f***ing worthless crap.
Voice control - the basic nav has it for the Stereo and the Nav inputs, Navpro seems to add more so you can control the aircon with it, maybe some more things?? If such a thing is what you want?
Dual Map - ok, so this is the same as with the Mk7.5. That does suggest that like with the Mk7.5 you CAN get the map on the AID...somehow. Although to be fair, I was going to order the HUD, which makes that probably worthless anyway.
I *suspect* there probably is more to it than this in that the interface has some different options and the whole unit is a little more responsive being a higher powered processor.
I've had NavPro on both my GTD's, I just checked - on my current one it cost 1300 quid - interestingly the Mk7.5 brochure (that I still have from Christmas 2016) said that for a Mk7.5 GTE the option was 2000 quid.... how strange??? I wonder if there is something different about it - I know I read something about on the Mk8 electric/hybrid vehicles have a battery range radius display on the nav maps...
So I think on balance thats 1600 quid badly spent.
It was the only option other than colour I had last time around. This time I think I'll have 19's and HUD instead.
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Something else I discovered last night while googling around.... the Mk8 currently has wireless Apple CarPlay but NOT wireless Android Auto.
In theory VW could release this as an Over the Air (OTA) update for the car, but whether they do and if they decide to charge you for it, is another matter.
The Mk8 does have a shop function. Where you can purchase things activated OTA. The main thing is enabling the IQ light function, but that is standard on the Performance models. Other things will include paying for CarNet subsriptions etc... I don't know how many years of guide and inform (traffic data etc) you get from new - it used to be 3 years. Suspect the only way to update the maps is OTA with a subscription.
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To answer a couple of questions.
The dash lights/display can be changed to any colour you want using a sliding scale on the Touch screen.
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No there is an individual mode where you pick the ride style,exhaust sound and other bits...will get pics later.
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The exhaust is fake, when you set up an individual driving profile it asks you if you want a sporty sound etc.
Re exhaust, I tried the ECO and Comfort settings and couldn't hear much difference. Is that what you are referring to?
No there is an individual mode where you pick the drive style,exhaust sound and various other bits,will get pics when I get in the car
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This is where the individual settings are
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Thanks Dave - thats similar to the Mk7.5 setup.
What are the options under engine sound?
I assume, Sport, Normal or Eco?
I would also presume though that those sounds are also the values used by the non-user definable profiles.
On my current GTD I have individual mode and engine sound set to "eco" with everything else set to normal.
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Yes the sounds are sport,normal and eco.
I tend to keep it in sport as I like the sound to be honest.
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The sound is fun sometimes.... but after a while I realised that long journeys with less noise (even less than "normal") improves my relaxation and decreases stress. I drive a lot, its rarely for fun.
Things have changed with lockdown though - I am driving much less and its probably going to be a permanent thing now we've worked out some ways of doing business remotely. Therefore I can afford to have a turbo petrol car and not an oil burner.
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