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Model specific boards => Golf mk8 => Topic started by: Hertsman on 03 December 2020, 16:26
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https://www.carwow.co.uk/hyundai/i30-n/news/4822/new-hyundai-i30-n-automatic-gearbox-revealed-price-specs-release-date (https://www.carwow.co.uk/hyundai/i30-n/news/4822/new-hyundai-i30-n-automatic-gearbox-revealed-price-specs-release-date)
Always said the second outing would be interesting to see and with a slew of tweaks and at about £30,000 with dual clutch option taking it to £31,000 and given what seen of the MK 8 think be seriously looking at it for at least one go around of ownership on this face-lift and the MK 11 should be really interesting if they trim the weight down and tweak some more -
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Its interesting - I had it on my radar for this time around.... shame the timing is wrong though.
Mind you, my latest car swap has been nothing but delays and dissapointment full stop - starting with the Mk8 coming very late and covid getting in the way of test driving anything before i had to decide.
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Yes, this is on my shortlist but need to have a seriously long and extensive look all over this car (in terms of could I live with the plastics and operating features). Also need to do an economy test as seen fellow forum members report that people only get high 20s. So will want an extensive test drive to check out fuel consumption (golf R gives 33mpg and that is 4WD).
Also reading the prototype test drive reports and Hyundai info, it sounds like the DCT doe add a fair chunk of weight to the i30N and its not the lightest in manual from what I hear.
But I do want to have a close look at one (and test drive) as I can imagine that the list price (I think it might be more £32K for hatch with DCT) with a discount will be down into mid-high 20s Which will be much more appealing to the wallet than a VW in low 30s. Will depend on how I find all the controls etc and living with it.
If it is a no, there is always the 7.5R to look go for.
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Its interesting - I had it on my radar for this time around.... shame the timing is wrong though.
Mind you, my latest car swap has been nothing but delays and dissapointment full stop - starting with the Mk8 coming very late and covid getting in the way of test driving anything before i had to decide.
How is the search going? Is it between M135i and 128ti
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How is the search going? Is it between M135i and 128ti
Well, I've got to:
M135i - second hand, lots to choose from for the budget I've got
128ti - new, got a spec and a price, waiting for a test drive - I've actually got an open order based on the test drive being acceptable
Mk8 GTI - new, got a spec and a price, waiting for a test drive
All of those come out around the same price but 128ti is the cheapest.
I30N (current model) is off of the list because I want an auto box this time....
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Obviously can’t comment on the new model but the old one really impressed me. Great drive but it was very firm. I thought the interior was ok tbh but I went straight from that test drive to VW and sat in a gti. Night and day imo. I’ll be doing the same comparison again when I change.
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My friend has the current i30n so I asked him what issues he’s had.
None, not even a rattle
Maybe I’m unlucky but my 7.5 has had so many issues. Same with my mk7, my mk6, my mk5..
So, well put together but poor plastics. That makes sense to me. Wonder what it’ll be like with the Mk8?
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How is the search going? Is it between M135i and 128ti
Well, I've got to:
M135i - second hand, lots to choose from for the budget I've got
128ti - new, got a spec and a price, waiting for a test drive - I've actually got an open order based on the test drive being acceptable
Mk8 GTI - new, got a spec and a price, waiting for a test drive
All of those come out around the same price but 128ti is the cheapest.
I30N (current model) is off of the list because I want an auto box this time....
Sorry. That must be incredibly frustrating to have the shortlist and be able to narrow further as you can’t get a test drive.
Hope you can get some test drives soon and look forward to your reviews. I watched Volkswizard comparison between S3 and M135i. It was interesting to see inside of BMW and better appearance of the interior. Can totally see why people are turning to BMW.
Good luck with getting your test drives in
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Even more frustrating considering this all started about twelve months ago when I started preparing a choice and an order to swap over smoothly... An utterly bad timing for new models and as it turns out that was the least of the problem..
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I don't think I could live with it, but I appreciate they have done a good job with it.
I have a similar shortlist for replacement of our ED40.
M135i, probably nearly new
128Ti
Mk8 Clubsport
Mk8 ED45
Ideally i'd like the ED45 depending on what it finally looks like, but I think the pricing will be crazy as it will slot in between the R and Clusbport.
Really want to get the test drives on the BMWs but local dealer is a tool to be frank, they are just interested in pcp'ing as many cars out the door as possible.
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If your BMW dealer is interested in PCP'ing as many as possible, they must be offering test drives... although from what the guy I am talking to is saying, a lot of his customers really don't bother to analyse the options or even care about anything much.
I find that very strange - I am not the most petrolhead person in the world by a long way, but I am spending a vast amount of money on a car and I want to make sure I'm going to be happy with it and that all of the options I am paying for actually serve some function (real or perceived lol). I am certainly not about to commit that sort of cash to a car unless i can properly test drive it.
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I have a worrying feeling that the Ed45 will be more than the R.
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Talking to a mate, he was saying, that you have to remember an awful lot of people just see a car as method of transport and won’t do the sort of analyse that I (and as far as I can see all you guys as well) would do.
In terms of his dad for example, he said not interested at all. Walked on dealer forecourt/into showroom and said, I’ll take that one. Then on the finance A lot of people are just driven (no pun intended) by the monthly figure fitting into their bank balance.
It does seem utterly amazing (in a bad way) that people don’t at least look closer at finance options...let alone the car details.
Anyway my shortlist is going to be Hyundai N Division v VAG still not sure if BMW will sneak in but there seems to be so much positivity that seems stupid not to include
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I have a worrying feeling that the Ed45 will be more than the R.
There is such a narrow price gap between the clubby and the R that there's hardly any room to make an ED45 bundle price point in there. I also don't see how you could squeeze more power out of a FWD clubby and leave the R on top either - that gap is really narrow too.
Unless of course that the ED45 is going to be a GTI with extras and not a clubby with extras....
Maybe the ED45 will just be a GTI with some better seats, different wheels and some stickers. TBH I think that would be a winner - just not in the right time frame for me.
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I have a worrying feeling that the Ed45 will be more than the R.
There is such a narrow price gap between the clubby and the R that there's hardly any room to make an ED45 bundle price point in there. I also don't see how you could squeeze more power out of a FWD clubby and leave the R on top either - that gap is really narrow too.
Unless of course that the ED45 is going to be a GTI with extras and not a clubby with extras....
Maybe the ED45 will just be a GTI with some better seats, different wheels and some stickers. TBH I think that would be a winner - just not in the right time frame for me.
Good point that Fred. I really hope that the Ed45 will be achievable. I still wish to this day I hadn’t sold my Ed35.
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Yep this BMW dealer didn't get why I wanted a test drive, they was just asking what my monthly budget was and if I had a p/x that they would be interested, when I'm paying cash for a car I want emotion from and knowing I already have a car to sell that I can make a nice bit on privetely, it just didn't cut it for me.
I will push for a test drive of both BMW's and see what I can then do on a deal then.
I think you are right though seeing what we had a glimpse of on the German configurator and what the Irish brochure says as "Racing pack" for clubsport that the ED40 will just be some form of limited pack with wheels, seats, exhaust and stickers this time around, which will probably put it over the R list price which I can't justify anyway.
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I30N interests me because it's available as a manual unlike most new VW/Audi/SEAT/Skoda products. i just cannot seem to get on with DSG which limits my options.
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Golf GTi and petrol Octy vRS are both available with a manual gearbox :smiley:
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Bmw 1 series doesn't have Dsg :whistle:
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Bmw 1 series doesn't have Dsg :whistle:
:grin: True!
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Not in the market this go around on the face lift but likely will be at least looking at my options for the MK2 so will actually go do some proper diligence opposed to the just taking note this time around
Fuel Economy (just looking for improved)
Ride (will test drive and see for myself)
Interior (already improved, so will want to see a little more in the quality)
Likely going to keep the TCR but you never say never, depends on mood and ££ as could go i30N or completely the other way and push boat out to a 2-3 year RS3 Think the MK8 would be excluded as despite the mentioned improvements to MK 7 series they would probably be lost on me and if going to stay Golf it may as well be in keeping the TCR.
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I would never consider a i30N after what has happened to one of my friends. His new i30N needs a full body respray, paint is quite literally flaking off all over the car from brand new (less than 2 months old). Not been smart repaired either, its factory. (Been checked by my usual detailer friend)
Yes, you could say its a one off and could happen to any manufacturer. But the mountain he has had to climb to get Hyundai to do anything about it is beyond stupid. Multiple dealerships aswell. Based on that experience alone, would never go near them.
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Bmw 1 series doesn't have Dsg :whistle:
:grin: True!
Not a big Bob fan :tongue:
https://youtu.be/13Bfzo-NheI