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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: jaceyboy on 13 October 2020, 13:58
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Hi Guys, considering changing the tyres on the misses GTi, I fitted the reps with Kumho tyres (235-35-19) which are okay in the dry and wet but they have no rim protection at all, what are Pirelli like?
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The tyres with wheel rim protectors will usually have one of the following markings on the sidewall of the tyre:
RFP (Rim Fringe Protector)
FP (Fringe Protector)
MFS (Maximum Flange Shield)
FR (Felgen Ripen)
FSL (Felgenschutzleiste)
ML (Mit Leiste)
Look for something with those markings...
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The tyres with wheel rim protectors will usually have one of the following markings on the sidewall of the tyre:
RFP (Rim Fringe Protector)
FP (Fringe Protector)
MFS (Maximum Flange Shield)
FR (Felgen Ripen)
FSL (Felgenschutzleiste)
ML (Mit Leiste)
Look for something with those markings...
Flange inspections can get you into trouble - always seek the owner's permission first!
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The tyres with wheel rim protectors will usually have one of the following markings on the sidewall of the tyre:
RFP (Rim Fringe Protector)
FP (Fringe Protector)
MFS (Maximum Flange Shield)
FR (Felgen Ripen)
FSL (Felgenschutzleiste)
ML (Mit Leiste)
Look for something with those markings...
Thanks, but my Kumho where advertised with rim protection but they have sod all
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None of them will stop someone smacking the hell out of a low profile tyre... You virtually have banana skins on a 35 profile. Maybe a minor ding only would be saved.
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My last car only got kerbed when on Pirellis, when I switched to Michelins which had noticeably better rim protection, they never got kerbed again. Although I may have learnt not to be such a numpty by then. But my new car is also on Pirellis and has a couple of kerbing bruises already. I thought the Michelins were a much better tyre alround including rim protection.
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Its a dangerous belief that a small bit of rubber will protect a car alloy.
I wouldn't like to put a rubber glove on and hit it with a mallet :grin:
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Pirelli's aren't the best either but heard better things about Goodyear but for the life of me cannot remember which model.
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Its a dangerous belief that a small bit of rubber will protect a car alloy.
I wouldn't like to put a rubber glove on and hit it with a mallet :grin:
I stated what had happened, it's not a belief nor am I relying on it. However that was my experience and any amount of rim protection is a good thing.
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Pirelli's aren't the best either but heard better things about Goodyear but for the life of me cannot remember which model.
Probably Eagle F1's?
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None of them will stop someone smacking the hell out of a low profile tyre... You virtually have banana skins on a 35 profile. Maybe a minor ding only would be saved.
Its more for the look, the wheels look fatter with rim protectors
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The fattest rim protection I have seen is on Michelin PS4. It's not too bad on my A4's Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersports either.
I'd rather have some than none. Even the most careful driver can lightly touch the kerb and depending on the rim protection, that touch could be a scrape or no scrape on the alloy.
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None of them will stop someone smacking the hell out of a low profile tyre... You virtually have banana skins on a 35 profile. Maybe a minor ding only would be saved.
Its more for the look, the wheels look fatter with rim protectors
To be honest, I'd just choose a set of PS4S's regardless. Almost certainly the best tyres for a performance Golf on 19's anyway.
Their press release says:
Like all of Michelin’s high-end tyres, the MICHELIN PILOT SPORT 4 S uses Michelin Premium Touch Technology® to enhance the appearance of the sidewall design. This is a sign of the recognition and esteem in which these tyres are held in the exclusive automotive world. Moreover, while the vast majority of sports cars are equipped with larger diameter wheels and tyres with low profile sidewalls, the MICHELIN PILOT SPORT 4 S has a practical and aesthetic rim protector that will, in many cases, avoid contact between the rim and the curb.
But if you say its cosmetic..... I guess you need to walk round a carpark and look at tyres until you see one you like.... would anyone actually do that??
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Its a dangerous belief that a small bit of rubber will protect a car alloy.
I wouldn't like to put a rubber glove on and hit it with a mallet :grin:
But I would be more willing to hit my hand with a mallet if the rubber glove was as thick as an alloy rim protector. I'd also be very wary of alloy wheel protectors that were the thickness of marigolds.
What a strange comment.
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Its a dangerous belief that a small bit of rubber will protect a car alloy.
I wouldn't like to put a rubber glove on and hit it with a mallet :grin:
I stated what had happened, it's not a belief nor am I relying on it. However that was my experience and any amount of rim protection is a good thing.
Sorry Watts I wasn't referring to you. Just my experience.
A small band of rubber is never in a million years going to stop a car that is heading towards a kerb from damaging the alloy.
Most of these rim protectors can be pushed in by your thumb so imagine what the weight of a car will be able to do.
I just think its another desirable to help sell tyres but each to their own.
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You can push in the rim protector (a thick bit of sidewall) on a fully inflated "XL" car tyre (that has the weight of the car bearing down on it) by 5 or 6mm, with a thumb?
Is your Dad called Odin? :grin:
For most of us here, we're talking about the merest rub of tyre wall against kerb rather than slamming into them at speed. Under those circumstances a rim protection moulded as part of the tyre sidewall is advantageous.
Awaiting the thunderbolt or hammer to come crashing through my house any second.
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Just clipped the kerb at lunch, nice scrape on the wheel, tyre looks smuggly spotless. Think I'd rather have hit my hand with a mallet.
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Just clipped the kerb at lunch, nice scrape on the wheel, tyre looks smuggly spotless. Think I'd rather have hit my hand with a mallet.
At least the rim tyre protector worked.
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Is your Dad called Odin? :grin:
No, Popeye :laugh:
I never mentioned anything about how much it could move / flex but it does flex.
The weight of a car behind that won't stop it flexing an awful lot more as we have all found out at some point.
Have a go with your front wheel with the merest rub against the kerb and report back how it went?
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Its a dangerous belief that a small bit of rubber will protect a car alloy.
I wouldn't like to put a rubber glove on and hit it with a mallet :grin:
I stated what had happened, it's not a belief nor am I relying on it. However that was my experience and any amount of rim protection is a good thing.
Sorry Watts I wasn't referring to you. Just my experience.
A small band of rubber is never in a million years going to stop a car that is heading towards a kerb from damaging the alloy.
Most of these rim protectors can be pushed in by your thumb so imagine what the weight of a car will be able to do.
I just think its another desirable to help sell tyres but each to their own.
No worries, I was being a bit touchy this morning, back to work after a nice long weekend :rolleyes:
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Is your Dad called Odin? :grin:
No, Popeye :laugh:
I never mentioned anything about how much it could move / flex but it does flex.
The weight of a car behind that won't stop it flexing an awful lot more as we have all found out at some point.
Have a go with your front wheel with the merest rub against the kerb and report back how it went?
Exhibit A:
"Most of these rim protectors can be pushed in by your thumb so imagine what the weight of a car will be able to do".
Mighty thumb!
My wife hasn't managed to scrape the alloys on her Polo GTI yet in 17 months of driving it - PS4 generous lip. She's touched the wheel to the kerb a few times but there's about an 8mm lip and that tyre wall is pretty thick.
She'd need to bump up or down a kerb or into it at 3mph+ to deform that tyre enough to push the rubber out of the way to scrape that wheel.
Coincidentally, I managed to scrape an alloy for the first time in 9 years the other day. I swung the A4 around on an arc to park into a space on the other side of the road. I thought I'd just missed the kerb but I'd actually gone up a dropped part of the kerb and then as hooking round to straighten up must've had only a tiny portion of the wheel width up and on the kerb. As I got straight, the wheel fell.of the kerb, like falling off a cliff and scraping the side of that cliff on the way down
Felt such a clown! :grin:
Now I have the dilemma of getting all the wheels powder coated or finding 1 replacement wheel scrape-free on ebay. The wheels are silver painted with diamond cut on a small edge. Seems daft to diamond cut a wheel where painted section matches the shade of the unpainted/cut alloy so well. Will probably go with powder coating to prevent future white worm across all wheels.