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Model specific boards => Golf mk8 => Topic started by: fredgroves on 24 September 2020, 08:22
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having a play :cool:
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Hmmmm two different DCC's....one for 19's specifically.... also an option for "sports suspension" for 19's which suggests by default its a bit softer when running 19's.
Only the choise of 18 Richmonds or 19 Adelaides. Literally, that is it.
Winter pack is a cost extra.
HUD is £625
Not entirely clear what NavPro gets you. It says:
6 Speakers, front and rear
App-Connect
Digital radio reception (DAB)
Dynamic road sign display
Multifunction camera for distance control
Radio
Voice activation, spoken voice commands for telephone and navigation system
Discover Navigation Pro system including Streaming & Internet
But most of that is also listed under standard kit.... only "Discover Navigation Pro system including Streaming & Internet" is different. 1600 quid to use VW's mobile SIM? Seems a lot...
Wouldn't be the first time clarity on NavPro is somewhat missing. I got bit with that one on the Mk7.
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Colours are typically VWUK meh too.... at least Kings Red is there though.
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£35,565 for DSG, Kings Red, 18's, DCC, and HUD.
I'm only spec'ing DCC again because VW have made a big thing about it being clever tech on the Mk8.
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Spare wheel, tool kit and jack are now a £100 extra cost option; compressor and can of gunk is the standard offering. Presumably the spare wheel has been deleted to save weight and improve emissions figures.
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I thought I'd be a bit cheeky... using a registration of a Mk8 for sale on autotrader, I looked at the user guide to see the difference between navpro and nav....
Nope, still can't tell the difference.... other than streaming apps don't seem natively supported on the basic nav.
The data it uses though still comes through your phone and not VW's sim.
If you search the vehicle manual using the term "certain vehicles" you can see all of the optional functions.
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I can see its got "predictive speed control".... which uses both traffic sign recognition (ie posted speed limits) and nav data (eg a tight bend).
With of course two hundred pages of caveats...
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No options for leather or alcantara interior....just cloth.
I'll bet thats a mistake on the configurator!
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Some interesting things on Car2X too.... Car2x can use other carx2 equipped vehicles to change ACC behaviour.
But more fascinating and something which I had never thought of:
To prevent abuse, a sender of Car2X messages must be in possession of valid certificates. The transmitted Car2X messages are signed with these certificates and compared against current white lists and blacklists. This checks whether the received Car2X messages are authentic, i.e. that they were sent by a legitimate Car2X transmitter.
The system content (for example certificates, relevant white lists and blacklists) must be updated regularly to comply with the Car2X communication requirements and to verify the confidentiality of other Car2X users. The update takes place automatically with a corresponding privacy setting when your vehicle’s internet connection is active.
We recommend that you go online every week or remain online to ensure that the latest white lists and blacklists are available in your vehicle. Your vehicle must not remain offline for more than approximately 3 months. After that you must update the system content or Car2X will be deactivated automatically.
Fake Car2x transmissions, that sounds like a world of fun we are all about to enter....
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Hoping the updated brochure or price list is available soon. Usually more reliable and easier to work out than VW's much fabled configurator.
From what I can see so far, looks like no Climate Screen for Mk8, even as an option, which if correct is a bit of a shame.
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From what I can see so far, looks like no Climate Screen for Mk8, even as an option, which if correct is a bit of a shame.
Yes, that like leather is missing so far.... got to be a mistake.
Why is this always a chuffing nightmare?
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When I specced up a GTE earlier, leather was added by default. I had to de-select it.
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Looks like the "We Connect" stuff is all subscription based too. The base spec says "Preparation for "We Connect" and "We Connect Plus" and the owners manual talks about setting up your subscriptions...
Isn't it about time this junk was all consigned to history? Wireless ACP/AA should be able to seemlessly replace this OEM garbage.
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"Illuminated grille and door handles"
Standard.... pimp my ride called, they want their ideas back.
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Looks like all of the data based stuff (nav updates, software updates, streaming, we connect etc) can EITHER use the built in VW esim or your phone (via you turning on a wifi hotspot). If you use the esim, you have to basically setup a monthly payment plan for a data allowance....
This is all interesting stuff, its at least letting me see the limitations before I spunk any cash.
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BTW on colour choices....
Moonstone Grey
£375 1£375, Other options at additional costs may be required
Pure White
Additional costs may apply
Atlantic Blue metallic
£625 Other options at additional costs may be required
Deep Black Pearl
£625 Other options at additional costs may be required
Dolphin Grey Metallic
£625 Other options at additional costs may be required
Kings Red Metallic
£695 Other options at additional costs may be required
Reflex Silver metallic
£625 Other options at additional costs may be required
Oryx White mother-of-pearl
£1,040 Other options at additional costs may be required
So the colour they show you by default (Moonstone) is paid for.... white is free... but might cost you something that they don't explain!!
Not sure if Moonstone is the same colour as the TCR? Might be.
As for the others, Dolphin is new and its errm dark grey, almost black. Kings Red, we have seen a lot of press cars in, looks good but I'm sure thats the colour Renault have used for a while.
Renault Hypnotic Red:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/N3k1tWYRVHp1dgI1hm87zJLLn5Ahr6DtrYpKR6VNXG0D9cW8nXKxEo_uC5etzqS7EUavXHr3byTVG8RAgj9mPPxDVtIwg4pFBsDL1UudCMgOyw)
Shame Tornado Red is gone.... is this a first for VWUK? There have always been TR GTI's no?
PS German konfigurator doesn't show any other GTI colours too...
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Don't know if this may ruffle one or two feathers, but the 'premium' Kings Red isn't exclusive to the GTi. It's also available for the Life and Style (but not R-Line) trims.
Edit: Kings Red is available for R Line trim after all.
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@ Fredgroves Someone has had a busy morning deconstructing the VW Configurator....very useful
My own few comments are:
Colours are not inspiring but Kings Red as a metallic paint option would be what I choose with a GTI or Oryx White. (I won't want a flat/solid colour), but £1,040 was always a huge cost (would definitely not let the car washers near the car with paying that amount for paint). So Kings Red and a more average £695 is a better all round option.
Wheels - As I thought 182 Richmond as standard on UK version. I do actually like these after not really liking GTI wheels since 2007. But I find it ironic that they sorted the wheel design out (IMO) and then ruined the car with that front bumper (large gaping mouth and 5 diamond Fogs).
Seats - I like the all in one seat designs, lets hope they are comfy, but they seem to have downgraded with no insignia/stitched in "GTI". I noticed the GTE had a leather option but that wasn't available in the GTI, its either configurator screw-up or you can't yet order leather in a UK GTI (what the logic would be I don't know). But I like the look of black leather seats with red piping on German Configurator.
Options - Don't like that Keyless is standard but I knew that was coming a long time ago.
Winter Pack - Seems churlish that its not standard after the end of 7.5 Its been standard since MY17 (from approx. May
2016, I skilfully bought mine before it was standard...boo!)
DCC - interesting that there are two options depending on size of wheels but that should mean a better tailored set-up
Pro Nav - I am glad it wasn't just me, I had been looking at that option and what else it gave you and I could only
conclude it was the option for streaming. Well £1600 is better spent elsewhere in the option list (or not at all)
Spare Wheel - I consider this essential item, so VW were one of last bastions of spare wheel and they have dropped
them to the option list as well now. When did I last have a puncture, maybe 2004. Would I want to cover myself with
having a spare wheel for what appears to be a rare occurrence. Like insurance I think I would happily pay £100 to save
me a night of misery and waiting on that one occasion something happened. But I wouldn't be paying the £100 as I
would be adding that to my free rubber mats that I expect with a car purchase (in reality probably never had free mats
but I like to think I got something)
Lights - I like others could live with normal LED headlights, I know the matrix headlights are £430 option on the Audi A3/S3
AC - Nice to have 3 zone climate, but sure I could live with 2 zone. Don't have too many passengers so seems unnecessary.
No mention of Akrapovic exhaust (of course that might be reserved for Cup and R only). Not that I want it at £3,000 but thought it might be there.
I think the GTE is closer on price than last time....or is that just because the GTI has been bumped up. Anyway I don't like the wheels on the GTE standard or option.
So I am waiting to see what Cup and R will offer.
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does the Pro nav include the HK sound system ? You can't have them both specified which is odd as I have the Pro Nav and Dynaudio in my 7.5
Thats interesting.... you are right too. WTF that means is anyone's guess.
I hate this and as I said earlier, I was bitten before on the 14 plate Mk7 I had. Not good enough really for multi-hundred pound options.
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@ Fredgroves Someone has had a busy morning deconstructing the VW Configurator....very useful
LOL
I've been waiting for this day for some time, thought I might as well share my morning of "discovery".
Not including the winter pack is a bit rum. TBH not having any "packs" is a bit naff too.
I checked ze german website and couldn't find leather seats on that either btw.
Really looks like they are narrowing the options down for WLTP testing reasons - every combo has to have a test figure...
I'm hoping that the keyless has the new counter-theft sensor in the keyfob - if you don't move it for a while, it stops sending. Won't stop a carpark jack, but would stop doorstep sniffing.
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@ Fredgroves Someone has had a busy morning deconstructing the VW Configurator....very useful
LOL
I've been waiting for this day for some time, thought I might as well share my morning of "discovery".
Not including the winter pack is a bit rum. TBH not having any "packs" is a bit naff too.
I checked ze german website and couldn't find leather seats on that either btw.
Really looks like they are narrowing the options down for WLTP testing reasons - every combo has to have a test figure...
I'm hoping that the keyless has the new counter-theft sensor in the keyfob - if you don't move it for a while, it stops sending. Won't stop a carpark jack, but would stop doorstep sniffing.
ha ha. Glad you have been enjoying yourself and thanks for sharing as well.
Yes, I really thought winter park would be a standard feature...to me more use than fancy 3zone climate. but obviously marketing/product planning don't think so
Not surprised you didn't spot the leather seats on vw.de The interior trim feature is not a stand alone feature and it also seemed to be buried right down the list of options. I looked at the picture and the price and thought that must be leather seats. Something like 2,300Euros
Every so often I jump in my car and if I remember or have sudden uncomfortableness I will flick the locks just in car. Locking doors above 10mph is great (I know not a new feature) but this is the only car I've had it on. Yes if it had the motion sensor that would improve the key-less. Not sure it featured last time I saw a Keyless entry article , I know Fords have that feature.
Yes, the WLTP testing all the combos has certainly cut down options. But I am glad to see that VW are still giving a relatively good spread of individual options rather than switching to packs which mean you have to have options you don't want, just to get the one thing that you do want.
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My attempts to save money by defecting back to Skoda may be thwarted. Just had a look on the German Skoda configurator and;-
Octavia vRS 2.0 TSi dsg Hatch €38,543
By comparison German VW configurator;-
Golf GTi 2.0 TSi DSG Hatch €37,607
Does this mean the Octavia vRS is going to be more expensive than the Golf GTi?
:shocked:
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VW took the trouble to update their price list for the Golf Mk8
https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/order-a-brochure/golf-8
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Leather for GTi £2,100
Pro Nav and Harman Kardon are separate options.
Still no Climate Screen option. :sad:
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‘Vienna’ Black/Grey perforated leather upholstery with red piping and contrast stitching including:
- Front sports seats with integrated headrests.
- Heated and air conditioned front seats.
- Driver’s seat with electric adjustment for seat height, seat length, seat cushion angle, backrest angle and electrically adjustable lumbar support.
- Driver’s seat with memory settings for driver’s seat position and door mirrors.
- Passenger’s seat with manual height adjustment and lumbar support[/li][/list]
I would like this option with cloth just to be difficult
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VW took the trouble to update their price list for the Golf Mk8
https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/order-a-brochure/golf-8
Interesting..... now that reveals a bit more.
It suggests :
1) Disco Pro includes We Connect Plus, I'd guess it also has got some sort of uncapped dataplan with it. We Connect is where you find traffic data, without Pro you have to pay (or use Waze!!). Still doesn't explain why you can't have the audio upgrade and navpro though. Got to be a configurator issue? But germany it is the same.
2) The multi coloured ambient lighting isn't on the GTI (phew!)
3) Heated rear seats aren't for the GTI
4) Travel Assist (previously traffic jam assist) is standard (for DSG only, it needs DSG to work...) on the GTI
5) Vienna "leather" is an option for the GTI
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‘Vienna’ Black/Grey perforated leather upholstery with red piping and contrast stitching including:
- Front sports seats with integrated headrests.
- Heated and air conditioned front seats.
- Driver’s seat with electric adjustment for seat height, seat length, seat cushion angle, backrest angle and electrically adjustable lumbar support.
- Driver’s seat with memory settings for driver’s seat position and door mirrors.
- Passenger’s seat with manual height adjustment and lumbar support[/li][/list]
I would like this option with cloth just to be difficult
Yeah never was an option on the Mk7 for cloth seats and electronic controls. If you wanted all of that, you had to drive around with a sweaty buttcrack.
If you deconstruct the brochure though, manual lumbar support is included on the GTI seats, like the Mk7.x.
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VW took the trouble to update their price list for the Golf Mk8
https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/order-a-brochure/golf-8
Interesting..... now that reveals a bit more.
It suggests :
1) Disco Pro includes We Connect Plus, I'd guess it also has got some sort of uncapped dataplan with it. We Connect is where you find traffic data, without Pro you have to pay (or use Waze!!). Still doesn't explain why you can't have the audio upgrade and navpro though. Got to be a configurator issue? But germany it is the same.
2) The multi coloured ambient lighting isn't on the GTI (phew!)
3) Heated rear seats aren't for the GTI
4) Travel Assist (previously traffic jam assist) is standard (for DSG only, it needs DSG to work...) on the GTI
5) Vienna "leather" is an option for the GTI
The only extras i can spot on Nav Pro are gesture control and voice control. Also page 21 of the price list states under Nav Pro option;-
1 We Connect Plus services are accessed via a compatible mobile device. Please see www.portal.volkswagen-we.com for more information. The use of We Connect Plus entails exchanging large volumes of data. As such, we strongly recommend that you sign-up for a flat rate data plan with your mobile network provider. Information on the duration of We Connect Plus services can be obtained once a user account has been registered on the We Connect web portal. 2 Speed Limit Display only reflects national speed limits and does not show temporary speed limit restrictions, or where permanent changes to speed limits are made in-between map updates.
The Ambient Lighting Pack is standard for all trims except Life.
Heated rear seats are a £470 option for the GTi & GTE as part of an extended Winter Pack.
Travel Assist including Side Assist is standard for the GTi & GTE regardless of which gearbox is chosen, but the version on cars with a manual gearbox doesn't include Emergency Assist.
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2 Speed Limit Display only reflects national speed limits and does not show temporary speed limit restrictions, or where permanent changes to speed limits are made in-between map updates.
So if you can't rely on it, what's the point?
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2 Speed Limit Display only reflects national speed limits and does not show temporary speed limit restrictions, or where permanent changes to speed limits are made in-between map updates.
So if you can't rely on it, what's the point?
You can rely on it sorta.... but don't sue VW for your speeding tickets.
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i notice that in the price list at least, the really expensive leather option now includes not only heated seats but air conditioned as well, and also including electric adjustment with memory function
Vienna’ Black/Grey perforated leather upholstery with red piping and contrast stitching including, front sports seats with
integrated headrests. Heated and air conditioned front seats. Driver’s seat with electric adjustment for seat height, seat length,
seat cushion angle, backrest angle and electrically adjustable lumbar support. Driver’s seat with memory settings for driver’s seat
position and door mirrors. Passenger’s seat with manual height adjustment and lumbar support
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‘Vienna’ Black/Grey perforated leather upholstery with red piping and contrast stitching including:
- Front sports seats with integrated headrests.
- Heated and air conditioned front seats.
- Driver’s seat with electric adjustment for seat height, seat length, seat cushion angle, backrest angle and electrically adjustable lumbar support.
- Driver’s seat with memory settings for driver’s seat position and door mirrors.
- Passenger’s seat with manual height adjustment and lumbar support[/li][/list]
I would like this option with cloth just to be difficult
Yeah never was an option on the Mk7 for cloth seats and electronic controls. If you wanted all of that, you had to drive around with a sweaty buttcrack.
If you deconstruct the brochure though, manual lumbar support is included on the GTI seats, like the Mk7.x.
These seats might tempt some people, its the first time you can get air conditioned seats in a small hatch?
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Fairly sure the one series has them...
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Carpet mats listed as an extra. :grin:
Configurator app wouldn’t work properly for me. Very surprised as these new models usually launch smoothly.
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Just for sh!ts and giggles I ran my choices through the configurator. Manual, sunroof, red, 19s without DCC, mats(!), spare wheel, and winter pack which came to £36655! You'd hope once there's some deposit contribution from a broker that'd drop below £31k but even so, that seems a lot considering my MK7 was £24k only 5 years ago. The red looks like the best colour, a heated steering wheel one of the best new features, my poor little digits do feel the cold!
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Discounts and dealer contributions will be key with the Mk8 as other hot hatches, like the 135i, are more powerful but will be cheaper with the huge discounts available. I do worry about the future of the gti.
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Carpet mats listed as an extra. :grin:
Configurator app wouldn’t work properly for me. Very surprised as these new models usually launch smoothly.
Carpet mats front and rear are standard on all mk8 Golfs apart from the entry level ‘Life’ model.
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Carpet mats listed as an extra. :grin:
Configurator app wouldn’t work properly for me. Very surprised as these new models usually launch smoothly.
Carpet mats front and rear are standard on all mk8 Golfs apart from the entry level ‘Life’ model.
Well that’s sold it then, I’ll buy 2! :grin:
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Just specced a DSG GTi on the Irish configurator with HK sound system, rear camera, winter pack and HUD and it came to 50K euro on the button. Will I pay 50k for a GTi, will i keep my almost 7 year old GTi until it falls apart,probably yes. Base model is 45K with no options. Crazy!
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Thats £41,000 for DSG base spec in Eire.... wtf!
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The dedicated DCC for 18 and 19 inch wheels - I wonder if that is for tuning damping rates to unsprung mass?
Could bugger up some wanting to swap for other wheels with quite different weights.
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Thats £41,000 for DSG base spec in Eire.... wtf!
Yup, thats thanks to our horrendous VRT taxes. and as you say, thats Ireland boggo spec. SO STOP COMPLAINING UK!!!! :grin:
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The dedicated DCC for 18 and 19 inch wheels - I wonder if that is for tuning damping rates to unsprung mass?
Could bugger up some wanting to swap for other wheels with quite different weights.
I wonder how that would pan out when swapping for winter wheels, particularly in markets where winter tyres are mandatory?
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Its interesting on the 19 DCC.... as you say, its got to be tuning and should fix a lot of the problems. Plus they only have 1 choice of 19's so its going to be pretty precise.
But then chuck in the 19's sports suspension option? Can you tick that and 19 DCC?
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I note when you look at the 19's on the configurator it says "Progressive steering" which it doesn't on the 18's.
:undecided:
Reading around this seems like it is genuinely something different with a Audi derived steering rack. I wonder how much of the "feel" reviewers have talked about might be down to this.... all of the press cars have 19's and DCC....
And then you have to choose between "Dynamic Chassis Control (DCC) variable suspension settings, sport comfort and normal - for 19" alloys" or "Sport Suspension for 19" wheels"
Which means there isn't a choice of 18 rated suspension with 19's....
The lack of explanation of these things and the pros and cons is crazy. I know the Mk7 was the same but this is nuts.
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You will be forever baffled by the configurator. I find the brochure and price list far more informative and reliable.
Progressive steering is standard on R Line, GTE and GTi models.
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You will be forever baffled by the configurator. I find the brochure and price list far more informative and reliable.
Progressive steering is standard on R Line, GTE and GTi models.
LOL ok
Assuming the features table on that is correct ;-)
I am fairly sure thats been wrong before.... remember foglightgate?
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Not saying the brochure is infallible, but at least it's not as vague or completely random like the configurator can be.
IFAIK fog light-gate was caused by VW 'forgetting' to fit the fog lights rather than a problem with the brochure.
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The dedicated DCC for 18 and 19 inch wheels - I wonder if that is for tuning damping rates to unsprung mass?
Could bugger up some wanting to swap for other wheels with quite different weights.
I wonder how that would pan out when swapping for winter wheels, particularly in markets where winter tyres are mandatory?
Oh yes. Interesting to see the detail on that.
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Surely it depends on whether you are actually lowering the unsprung weight? Just because you run seventeen winters doesn't mean it's a lighter combo does it?
Plus people have swapped to lighter forged alloys for years and nobody ended up in a ditch?
I'm no expert, just observing what is written and done.
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......well I’ve heard of inflation but that is ridiculous...
Yesterday morning I configured a GTI with Kings Red Metrallic and it was £695 on website
Last night I look at price list and Kings Red Metallic was £755
Are VW hedging their bets :grin: :grin:
I am definitely liking the leather seat option.
I also thing it’s a conspiracy car makes seem to correct one thing or another that I don’t like, but then change something which I did thus complicating the choice.
Stood and briefly looked at two Mk8s in Listers, Stratford forecourt but decided I wasn’t getting anything useful from a pair of standard models
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......well I’ve heard of inflation but that is ridiculous...
Yesterday morning I configured a GTI with Kings Red Metrallic and it was £695 on website
Last night I look at price list and Kings Red Metallic was £755
Are VW hedging their bets :grin: :grin:
I scraped the paint colours and prices on page two of this thread:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=286889.msg2626211#msg2626211
definitely that has changed in 24hrs.
Looks like its just kings red that has gone up.
I noticed the default colour now is the free (white)
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Surely it depends on whether you are actually lowering the unsprung weight? Just because you run seventeen winters doesn't mean it's a lighter combo does it?
Plus people have swapped to lighter forged alloys for years and nobody ended up in a ditch?
I'm no expert, just observing what is written and done.
Yeah it's not going to kill you :grin:
Just odd they define one for each wheel size. Normally they'd have to land on a setting with say +/-3kgs of possible difference at least and just blanket apply it.
So it's either they've fine tuned for each wheel or it's relatively meaningless to satisfy WLTP.
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Surely WLTP only care if you did swap the dampers for something different??
Although I can't imagine technically how a slightly softer valved damper could make any CO2 difference at all.
I can see how a heavier wheel would.
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......well I’ve heard of inflation but that is ridiculous...
Yesterday morning I configured a GTI with Kings Red Metrallic and it was £695 on website
Last night I look at price list and Kings Red Metallic was £755
Are VW hedging their bets :grin: :grin:
I scraped the paint colours and prices on page two of this thread:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=286889.msg2626211#msg2626211
definitely that has changed in 24hrs.
Looks like its just kings red that has gone up.
I noticed the default colour now is the free (white)
Sorry Fred, I was just pointing out that configurator and pricelist don’t agree. I know this is hardly a shock but just seems a bit rubbish.
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£41635 to buy the same spec as near as I can get it to my old Mk7.5 as a Mk8 GTi 😮🥳
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£41635 to buy the same spec as near as I can get it to my old Mk7.5 as a Mk8 GTi 😮🥳
How much more than your current one is that then? And when did you get the mk7.5?
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£41635 to buy the same spec as near as I can get it to my old Mk7.5 as a Mk8 GTi 😮🥳
How much more than your current one is that then? And when did you get the mk7.5?
Full list of my now departed one was around £38K (minus sizeable discount 👍) and I picked it up Jan 2018
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A bit of a brain dump on the subject of the list price of mk8 GTI.
I dare say that part of the reason for the mk8 GTI ‘enhanced’ pricing (or indeed pricing of the entire mk8 Golf range) might be the EU 2021 fleet emissions target of 95g CO2 per km. Manufacturers that don’t hit the target for the fleet of vehicles they sell will be fined €95 per g of CO2 over the target multiplied by the volume of vehicles sold. So there are likely to be some significant fines to be paid by manufacturers with a fleet of vehicles with high CO2 emissions. 2020 is a transition period where the 95g target applies to a manufacturers 95% least polluting vehicles in their fleet. VW may be loading the price of their cars with an ‘emissions levy’ so that the cost of these fines will (at least in part) be passed on to the customer. Add a Brexit no deal into the mix, and we could see some even crazier list prices in a few month’s time.
Earlier this year, VW increased the price of the Polo GTI by over 4% with no change in the car’s spec. It was speculated at that time that the increase might be a way of passing on the cost of emissions fines to the customer that would be levied on VW for not hitting the fleet emissions target of 95g CO2 per km.
I’ve read on some forums that manufacturers have either temporarily suspended or withdrawn production of some higher polluting models to reduce their overall fleet CO2 emissions. In fact, the Polo GTI (159g CO2 / km) is currently only available from stock and has been removed from the latest price list. I’ve read on a Ford forum that production of the Fiesta ST (and possibly the Focus ST) has also been temporarily halted. Will VW limit the number of the mk8 Golf GTI (168g DSG / 169g manual CO2 / km) they build - and other similarly high polluters in their vehicle fleet - and focus production on hybrids and electric vehicles to help them manage their fleet CO2 emissions? Maybe, if they want to limit the amount they have to pay in emissions-based fines. If they do limit production, GTI customers could be in for some long wait times.............
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£41635 to buy the same spec as near as I can get it to my old Mk7.5 as a Mk8 GTi 😮🥳
How much more than your current one is that then? And when did you get the mk7.5?
Full list of my now departed one was around £38K (minus sizeable discount 👍) and I picked it up Jan 2018
My 7.5 RRP (obviously I got a big discount so I didn't pay that) in December 2018 versus the equivalent MK8 RRP now. Pricing is certainly not as bad as I was expecting...
Charging for the winter pack is a bit cheeky, as is now charging for a rear camera which came standard in 2019 on the 7.5. On the plus side the electric drivers memory seat is now included within the leather price (what VW giveth with one hand they taketh away with the other!)
(https://i.postimg.cc/DzzYxnWB/Screenshot-2020-09-27-at-10-05-01.png) (https://postimages.org/)
:)
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I think you'd actually find the price has been creeping up for some time.... its just that you don't notice once you've ordered your car.
I'll bet VW increase the overall cost at least once every year, if not twice.
Definitely each MY sees an increase.
So KMP, thats at least 2 hikes since yours, lets assume 2 and if we look at the base price (because options tend not to move) we see 3.4% per annum.
TBH, that sounds about right.
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I wish my pay went up at 3.4% pa....
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I wish my pay went up at 3.4% pa....
Absolutely correct! If I remember rightly my mk5 gti was about £21.5k. It’s £14k more now.
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Assuming your mk5 was in 2005, that's 4.3% a year.
I think 4% a year is roughly how it goes you know... What was a mk7.5 gti pp bade price last year?
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Assuming your mk5 was in 2005, that's 4.3% a year.
I think 4% a year is roughly how it goes you know... What was a mk7.5 gti pp bade price last year?
It’s still listed on the Configurator as £33.5k. Not sure how accurate that actually is though.
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Assuming your mk5 was in 2005, that's 4.3% a year.
I think 4% a year is roughly how it goes you know... What was a mk7.5 gti pp bade price last year?
It's more like 3.3% increase per year allowing for compounding.
Bank of England inflation calculator shows from 2005 to 2019 inflation averaged 3% per year.
Prices from October 2019;-
GTi Performance 5dr DSG = £33,015 OTR
GTE 5dr DSG = £32,015 OTR
GTE Advance 5dr DSG = £33,815 OTR
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So 3.3% sounds like a planned annual increase, we just don't see it like that because we don't buy cars every year, well apart from Exonian :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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I wish my pay went up at 3.4% pa....
No but I am sure you employer increases their prices of what they sell every year by a few percent because every cost they have (except maybe your wage) increases.
VW being German and the factory being in Germany, almost certainly their wages increase!
BOE inflation doesn't necessarily reflect actual price inflation.
And if it makes you feel any better, I haven't seen a pay rise in almost 10 years :cry:
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I had a nosey, it seems the site is too busy in the afternoon to even load for me haha. I have an issue with the alloys, I don't like either, I do like 19s for that bigger look but they really don't float my boat.
Have the darker rear windows disappeared as an option now? Not the 65% tint, the upgrade that you could have on the MK7
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Have the darker rear windows disappeared as an option now? Not the 65% tint, the upgrade that you could have on the MK7
No 90% tint. The police asked drug dealers to buy a different car :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Have the darker rear windows disappeared as an option now? Not the 65% tint, the upgrade that you could have on the MK7
No 90% tint. The police asked drug dealers to buy a different car :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:grin: it's a marmite thing but not the end of the world
Like we've all said, seeing it in the metal and driving it down the road might change my mind on things, especially the wheels, maybe other options will change or trickle in over 6-9 months or model years.
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So 3.3% sounds like a planned annual increase, we just don't see it like that because we don't buy cars every year, well apart from Exonian :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Some of us live life 3.3% at a time 😁
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Can anyone get the configurator to work at the mo? Have tried for couple of days and just freezes on white screen......
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£41k with a few options :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Can anyone get the configurator to work at the mo? Have tried for couple of days and just freezes on white screen......
Yes just been online loaded straight away
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Can anyone get the configurator to work at the mo? Have tried for couple of days and just freezes on white screen......
Yes just been online loaded straight away
Thanks - must be my laptop. Maybe it has been set to prevent access to the configurator during working hours :grin:
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Have just 'configured' a manual GTI on DTD (though didn't progress the quote) and it comes out at just over £36k for the options I would tick. Assuming a £2-3k discount, that doesn't sound too bad.
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Drive The Deal are offering discount of over £3k on these already :laugh: