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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Vw80 on 23 August 2020, 22:14
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As title notice damp smell in car all carpets feel dry. When I open rear door behind drivers there’s near always water sitting on sill outer part. Been raining near constant of late here. Any suggestions on why it’s always wet there or how water should escape from there. Tia
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Hello. Sounds like it could be the dreaded speaker seals which are leaking. The speaker gasket on the rear doors perishes and leaves water through it, which then leads to water pooling on the sill and eventually coming into the carpet area. I had this on both my rear speakers. I drilled out the speaker rivets and made my own liquid gaskets for the speakers.No more leaks.
Check by pouring/hosing water onto the rear windiows and then check for water dripping from the bottom of the door card palstic.
Hope this helps.
Good luck!
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I had soaking water on the floor rear passenger side just before Christmas, I mean water was running off the matt when I picked it up!
Turns out a plastic plug on the inside of the door had broken as part of assemble so wasn't pulling the door card in quite right.
Water runs down the inside of the door from the window to a draining channel.
I think there is a also a 'common' issue to do with the seal around the speak - but ultimately the same kind of problem.
Im sure someone else can shed some light on it who has more experience.
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Looks like Carbon got in before I finished typing and explained it much better :)
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Probably the same issue golfs have suffered since the mk4. The inner panel that supports window behind interior door panel, the seal fails. Same principle to fix cheaply as below. Or buy a new seal from VW.
Same principles to fix as the leon https://dubsteve68.blogspot.com/2011/05/seat-leon-leaking-door-seals-repair.html?m=1
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Thanks guys will get a look at it when time allows. Looks relatively straight forward.🤞🏻
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Sealed up all door speakers but occasionally c water drops on sill outer but inside feels dry. Is this normal? Swapped out water drain from vw boot badge although boot showed no dampness. If water coming n at vents behind rear bumper would boot b wet? I still have damp smell n car an wondering before I send for valet is there anywhere else should check?
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Are you sure it isn't the air-con needing a clean?
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Are you sure it isn't the air-con needing a clean?
I’m not - but if car left parked for day or two when get in damp smell instantly before even turn on ignition?
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When was the pollen filter last changed ? Have you checked for rodents in the engine bay? As others have said get an AC service. Failing that , you said the carpets are dry, but if enough water got in previously then the underlay carpet could be holding the musty smell
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Have you checked for water / dampness under the spare wheel in the boot ?
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Just found this thread. Neighbour has the problem of water pooling under one of the rear doors that trickles into the rear when the door is opened. Looks like this may be the solution so thanks for he info.
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All feels dry to the touch has me puzzled. Does anyone else notice water droplets on sills when open doors is it normal? Think send for valet an hope for best?
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All feels dry to the touch has me puzzled. Does anyone else notice water droplets on sills when open doors is it normal? Think send for valet an hope for best?
What’s a valet going to achieve ? When you said you sealed the rear speakers did you remove the speakers or did you just seal them in place ? The speaker seals can also leak in the front door cards. Did you check the pollen filter and housing. ?
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4 speakers out an sealed. Does a valet not remove smells hopefully of old??
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Isn't the other leak point the roof antenna mount? Leaks into the headlining.
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Isn't the other leak point the roof antenna mount? Leaks into the headlining.
Yes, I’ve seen it mentioned on a few forums.
@Vw80; I’ve put a list of possible sources of water ingress on the mk7 Golf that have cropped up over the years on various mk7 Golf forums. Some of these have already been mentioned in this discussion thread, but thought it might be useful as a checklist to help you track down the cause of the damp, musty smell which IMO means moisture is getting in somewhere.
As @Carbon VW has said, it’s possible for the carpets to be dry to the touch, but the sound deadening underlay could be soaking up water and be damp, causing the musty smell. Do you get condensation issues inside your car? - that would also be a tell tale sign of water ingress.
List below items in no particular order;
1. Blocked pollen filter.
2. Cars with sunroof - blocked sunroof drain pipes.
3. Damaged / broken door speaker seals, resulting in water draining into the foot wells.
4. Damaged / poor fitting door or window seals.
5. Damaged / perished grommet on the bottom of the drain pipe from the hatch release handle.
6. Damaged / cracked rubber sleeving covering the wiring from the car into the tailgate.
7. Poor seal between the tailgate hinges and where they’re attached to the body shell above the tailgate opening.
8. Damaged rubber washer between the roof and roof mounted aerial.
9. Damaged or perished seal(s) between the rear light clusters and the car body.
10. A/C drain tube becoming detached from the evaporator, draining into car interior rather than on the ground outside the car
11. Water ingress via vents in the lower rear quarter panels either side of the boot behind rear bumper cover.
12. Replacement windscreen not bonded correctly to car body shell.
13. Blocked drainage hole in windscreen scuttle panel.
As @Carbon VW has said, a valet won’t really achieve anything, other than maybe temporarily mask the damp smell - IMO the solution to the damp smell is to find the source of the problem and fix it.
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is there anywhere water can't get in on a MK7 ;D ;D
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is there anywhere water can't get in on a MK7 ;D ;D
Looking at that list, that might be the conclusion you come to. To be fair, some of the items in the list won’t be common sources of water ingress - probably the most common ones are failed speaker seals, perished tailgate drain tube grommet and a blocked pollen filter.
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Sooo removed rear seat this eve and got hand down under carpet to feel a saturated sponge sound deadener inside rear door. From past experiences it’s v hard to get smell out of this spongey stuff so should I cut out wet section and replace section from breakers?
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Sooo removed rear seat this eve and got hand down under carpet to feel a saturated sponge sound deadener inside rear door. From past experiences it’s v hard to get smell out of this spongey stuff so should I cut out wet section and replace section from breakers?
Cut it out and remove any residue with glue remover, doubt you'd notice the difference tbh.
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Sooo noticed my back near side door leaking again :angry:😩. Doin a bit of fresh research has come up wit drilling hole on inside of bottom of door to let water drain on to sill rather than fill up an in over rubber on cill. At first thought crazy but more thought I gave more it makes since. While still nervous of doing am I creating any future pitfalls??
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The water is probably coming round the speaker in the rear door and bypassing the plastic sealing sheet and therefore getting inside the rubber door cill gasket and into the car. There are already drain holes in the bottom of the door so check these are not blocked. Drilling further holes will not solve the problem and create bare metal to rust. Neighbour had this problem and solution was to remove the door card and find where the seal had failed - around the speaker is most common and clean, reseal with 'gunge' and replace the plastic sheet.
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Had drill an centre punch all ready but couldn’t bring myself to do it. Door card off 2mor an re- seal. 🤞🏻