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Title: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: 2007GTI on 02 August 2020, 19:59
I went to check my tyre pressures this weekend and was surprised to see they were all 40PSI!

I had an MOT and service at VW main dealer a month ago, so they must have done it then, first time in 15 years a VW dealer has touched my tyre pressures. I'm surprised and angry as 40 PSI is too much, as I drive the car unladen 99% of the time. so I have taken them back down to 36PSI.

Anyone else ever had this?
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: Finglonga on 02 August 2020, 20:42
Having owned motorbikes I check pressures weekly and never had dealer issues. A few times a tyre place has put the wrong PSI in but now I tell them what I want putting in and check afterwards it is correct.
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: monkeyhanger on 03 August 2020, 06:10
What are the current recommended tyre pressures for a Golf GTI?

Recently, tyre pressure recommendations have shot up across the VAG range. The Polo GTI+ listing are for 41psi fronts and 38 psi backs. In reality, 36psi fronts and 33psi backs is fine.

On my Audi A4 there are 2 recommendations - normal and "comfort" which is around 10% lower, so it seems that Audi recognise that the high setting for max economy may be too high.

Has anyone seen a tread wear pattern that looks classic overinflation on these newer high settings?
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: mcmaddy on 03 August 2020, 07:06
Mine were on 40 or thereabouts when I picked it up from the dealership but should be 36 all round.
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: Finglonga on 03 August 2020, 09:06
My book says Standard F36 R39, Loaded F39 R44

I run 36 all round as well.

*edit running on 18's
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: kmpowell on 03 August 2020, 09:26
I run 40-42psi all round on mine.

As per the door sticker it’ll tell you what you should be running. 18’s and 19’s run different pressures, as do the different GTI variants.

Check your door sticker.
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: monkeyhanger on 03 August 2020, 09:31
You’re angry with VW for putting the correct pressure in?!?

I run 40-42psi all round on mine.

As per the door sticker it’ll tell you what you should be running. 18’s and 19’s run different pressures, as do the different GTI variants.

Check your door sticker. If you’re on 19’s then those pressures are correct.

Recommended tyre pressures do seem to have jumped significantly over the last 3 years - presumably to squeeze into an emissions bracket. The difference between 40 and 36 psi shouldn't adversely affect tyre wear and comfort differences should be significant. I'd personally stick with 36psi. 40-42psi is very high.
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: kmpowell on 03 August 2020, 09:38
Recommended tyre pressures do seem to have jumped significantly over the last 3 years - presumably to squeeze into an emissions bracket. The difference between 40 and 36 psi shouldn't adversely affect tyre wear and comfort differences should be significant. I'd personally stick with 36psi. 40-42psi is very high.
2015 GTI’s with 19’s have 40+psi stickers on their doors. It’s nothing new.
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: 2007GTI on 03 August 2020, 09:39
@kmpowell, what does my signature say, 18s, and of course I checked my door sticker, and I know it says 36PSI unladen, you really think I would come on here moaning about the correct PSI, if I didn't KNOW the exact mmanufacturers unladen PSI for my car??? Of course different sizes and variants are different.

Hence I know it is wrong and I am surprised VW have even bothered to do them, and I don't need snide patronising twots telling me to check my door sticker.

@monkeyhanger, you are right 40-42 is too high.

I run 40-42psi all round on mine.

As per the door sticker it’ll tell you what you should be running. 18’s and 19’s run different pressures, as do the different GTI variants.

Check your door sticker.
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: monkeyhanger on 03 August 2020, 09:58
@kmpowell, what does my signature say, 18s, and of course I checked my door sticker, and I know it says 36PSI unladen, you really think I would come on here moaning about the correct PSI, if I didn't KNOW the exact mmanufacturers unladen PSI for my car??? Of course different sizes and variants are different.

Hence I know it is wrong and I am surprised VW have even bothered to do them, and I don't need snide patronising twots telling me to check my door sticker.

@monkeyhanger, you are right 40-42 is too high.

I run 40-42psi all round on mine.

As per the door sticker it’ll tell you what you should be running. 18’s and 19’s run different pressures, as do the different GTI variants.

Check your door sticker.

If only the VW techs checked door stickers...

They probably give every performance golf an arbitrary 40psi at that dealership.

My 2015 R on Prets ran 36psi on the fronts according to the sticker and tgat felt fine. My 2018 Polo GTI+ had 41psi on the sticker but the ride was horrible (even with 2 stage dampers on the Normal setting). Fine on 36 psi, made a world of difference. Feels like you're driving a BMW on runflats with 41psi.
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: kmpowell on 03 August 2020, 10:07
@kmpowell, what does my signature say, 18s, and of course I checked my door sticker, and I know it says 36PSI unladen, you really think I would come on here moaning about the correct PSI, if I didn't KNOW the exact mmanufacturers unladen PSI for my car??? Of course different sizes and variants are different.

Hence I know it is wrong and I am surprised VW have even bothered to do them, and I don't need snide patronising twots telling me to check my door sticker.

@monkeyhanger, you are right 40-42 is too high.

Ok, I can see now that the dealer putting a psi in above the recommended front ladened weight is enough to make the most reasonable person "angry". This is totally unacceptable...

So what shall we all recommend you do?

1. Complain to the dealer and get some sort of £compensation, how about free servicing for life due to this monumental cock-up that could endanger you and everybody that gets in your car, and everybody who might be driving by your when you are driving?
2. We all get together, hunt down the dealer principle, burn down the dealership whilst he's tied to his desk, all because he/they didn't ring you up and ask how ladened your car is when you drive it?
3. Take a few psi out to the levels you want/need (as per the handbook suggest you do regular and something you would normally do when picking the car up from service, not a month later), breath, realise there are far bigger things in life to get "angry" about, and stop acting like a petulant child?

Lots of love, your "snide patronising twot"
xxx

ps. please do continue to use more capitalised words in your responses so we all KNOW you're angry and serious.
pps.
(https://i.postimg.cc/8kybv5FR/20180929-112531.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
The backs are fine, it's just the front's that are 1psi over. Hardly crime of the century.

:kiss:
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: Watts on 03 August 2020, 10:35
(https://i.postimg.cc/8kybv5FR/20180929-112531.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

That's from my old car! :laugh:
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: kmpowell on 03 August 2020, 10:38
Pic snipped

That's from my old car! :laugh:
Yup, I went back and found your post from where somebody queried (not complained/moaned/angry) PSI's on a 7.5. At the time it was believed PSI's had risen, but your picture post (from a 2015 PP IIRC) showed PSI's had remained constant through 7 and 7.5.

:)
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: Watts on 03 August 2020, 10:53
Pic snipped

That's from my old car! :laugh:
Yup, I went back and found your post from where somebody queried (not complained/moaned/angry) PSI's on a 7.5. At the time it was believed PSI's had risen, but your picture post (from a 2015 PP IIRC) showed PSI's had remained constant through 7 and 7.5.

:)

I love red :kiss: :laugh:
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: mcmaddy on 03 August 2020, 13:15
Pic snipped

That's from my old car! :laugh:
Yup, I went back and found your post from where somebody queried (not complained/moaned/angry) PSI's on a 7.5. At the time it was believed PSI's had risen, but your picture post (from a 2015 PP IIRC) showed PSI's had remained constant through 7 and 7.5.

:)
that's just it though they havent. My 2016 GTi pp on standard 18s had 36psi all round. A guy at work got a lease deal on a GTi pp in early 2017 and his pressure were different to mine. VW upped the pressures in the run up to wltp emmisions. My friend got a 7.5 GTi pp and his tyres are 41psi. None of those are consistant pressures.
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: clarky92 on 03 August 2020, 13:30
I started at 41psi on my 19” Prets now down to 36 and I cannot tell a difference in ride quality or mpg
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: kmpowell on 03 August 2020, 15:23
Pic snipped

That's from my old car! :laugh:
Yup, I went back and found your post from where somebody queried (not complained/moaned/angry) PSI's on a 7.5. At the time it was believed PSI's had risen, but your picture post (from a 2015 PP IIRC) showed PSI's had remained constant through 7 and 7.5.

:)
that's just it though they havent. My 2016 GTi pp on standard 18s had 36psi all round. A guy at work got a lease deal on a GTi pp in early 2017 and his pressure were different to mine. VW upped the pressures in the run up to wltp emmisions. My friend got a 7.5 GTi pp and his tyres are 41psi. None of those are consistant pressures.
From memory I think the 18’s have gone up 2psi, but 19’s have remained the same.
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: Phil245 on 03 August 2020, 17:08
Blimey, I wasn't really sure if I wanted to get involved in this thread as it has become a bit unfriendly.........

But I was just thinking to myself that if your gauge is about 5% out and the dealers is about 5% out,  that would easily explain a 4 psi difference....?

Obviously we all want our tyre pressures correct, but how accurate are gauges....?
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: mcmaddy on 03 August 2020, 18:38
Blimey, I wasn't really sure if I wanted to get involved in this thread as it has become a bit unfriendly.........

But I was just thinking to myself that if your gauge is about 5% out and the dealers is about 5% out,  that would easily explain a 4 psi difference....?

Obviously we all want our tyre pressures correct, but how accurate are gauges....?
depends what gauge you have, not all are accurate and I'd hazard a guess that the yts trainee at the dealer wouldn't really care either  :grin:
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: mcmaddy on 03 August 2020, 18:39
Pic snipped

That's from my old car! :laugh:
Yup, I went back and found your post from where somebody queried (not complained/moaned/angry) PSI's on a 7.5. At the time it was believed PSI's had risen, but your picture post (from a 2015 PP IIRC) showed PSI's had remained constant through 7 and 7.5.

:)
that's just it though they havent. My 2016 GTi pp on standard 18s had 36psi all round. A guy at work got a lease deal on a GTi pp in early 2017 and his pressure were different to mine. VW upped the pressures in the run up to wltp emmisions. My friend got a 7.5 GTi pp and his tyres are 41psi. None of those are consistant pressures.
From memory I think the 18’s have gone up 2psi, but 19’s have remained the same.
18s went from 36 to 40/41 and then back to 36. Maybe they pull the numbers out of a hat at the factory 🤣🤣
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: monkeyhanger on 03 August 2020, 18:47
Blimey, I wasn't really sure if I wanted to get involved in this thread as it has become a bit unfriendly.........

But I was just thinking to myself that if your gauge is about 5% out and the dealers is about 5% out,  that would easily explain a 4 psi difference....?

Obviously we all want our tyre pressures correct, but how accurate are gauges....?

It's been blown out of proportion.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: jv on 03 August 2020, 18:51
Just a lot of hot air.
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: mistac on 03 August 2020, 20:40
Its pretty tyring to read and if i am honest has left me a bit deflated  :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: dubber36 on 04 August 2020, 08:20
Out of curiosity, does the tyre pressure sticker differ dependent on the spec that the car was built to as well? Does having a sunroof or Dynaudio 'require' more pressure to support the extra weight?

I also think that the mechanics are under a lot of pressure to get the cars through the workshop quickly. 
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: Sootchucker on 04 August 2020, 08:29
3 pages about a dealer putting the wrong pressure in a tyre.....we really are running out of things to say on the forum now aren't we  :D :D
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: SRGTD on 04 August 2020, 09:05
3 pages about a dealer putting the wrong pressure in a tyre.....we really are running out of things to say on the forum now aren't we  :D :D

 :grin: If I found the dealer had put too much air in my tyres, I’d just adjust it; easily remedied.
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: barrym381 on 04 August 2020, 10:42
3 pages about a dealer putting the wrong pressure in a tyre.....we really are running out of things to say on the forum now aren't we  :D :D

 :grin: If I found the dealer had put too much air in my tyres, I’d just adjust it; easily remedied.

Do people really check the pressure before and after a visit to the dealer
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: monkeyhanger on 04 August 2020, 10:46
3 pages about a dealer putting the wrong pressure in a tyre.....we really are running out of things to say on the forum now aren't we  :D :D

 :grin: If I found the dealer had put too much air in my tyres, I’d just adjust it; easily remedied.

Do people really check the pressure before and after a visit to the dealer

I check everything after a visit to the dealer - especially oil level after a service. They're supposed to top to the max, twice they've replaced oil with just enough to get oil beyond min on the district,. Lookers have chipped and scraped bodywork and said nowt on 2 separate occasions
 Lookers around Tyneside are sh!te!
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: 2007GTI on 04 August 2020, 14:04
it says 36 front and back unladen, best get to specsavers.

@kmpowell, what does my signature say, 18s, and of course I checked my door sticker, and I know it says 36PSI unladen, you really think I would come on here moaning about the correct PSI, if I didn't KNOW the exact mmanufacturers unladen PSI for my car??? Of course different sizes and variants are different.

Hence I know it is wrong and I am surprised VW have even bothered to do them, and I don't need snide patronising twots telling me to check my door sticker.

@monkeyhanger, you are right 40-42 is too high.

Ok, I can see now that the dealer putting a psi in above the recommended front ladened weight is enough to make the most reasonable person "angry". This is totally unacceptable...

So what shall we all recommend you do?

1. Complain to the dealer and get some sort of £compensation, how about free servicing for life due to this monumental cock-up that could endanger you and everybody that gets in your car, and everybody who might be driving by your when you are driving?
2. We all get together, hunt down the dealer principle, burn down the dealership whilst he's tied to his desk, all because he/they didn't ring you up and ask how ladened your car is when you drive it?
3. Take a few psi out to the levels you want/need (as per the handbook suggest you do regular and something you would normally do when picking the car up from service, not a month later), breath, realise there are far bigger things in life to get "angry" about, and stop acting like a petulant child?

Lots of love, your "snide patronising twot"
xxx

ps. please do continue to use more capitalised words in your responses so we all KNOW you're angry and serious.
pps.
(https://i.postimg.cc/8kybv5FR/20180929-112531.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
The backs are fine, it's just the front's that are 1psi over. Hardly crime of the century.

:kiss:
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: kmpowell on 04 August 2020, 14:16
it says 36 front and back unladen, best get to specsavers
Best read my post properly. I can see it says 36, what you’re failing to grasp is only the front tyres fall outside of all tolerances. See option 2 for the reasons as to why.

For the purpose of clearing up your doubt, option 3 is the answer.
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: barrym381 on 04 August 2020, 18:57
3 pages about a dealer putting the wrong pressure in a tyre.....we really are running out of things to say on the forum now aren't we  :D :D

 :grin: If I found the dealer had put too much air in my tyres, I’d just adjust it; easily remedied.

Do people really check the pressure before and after a visit to the dealer

I check everything after a visit to the dealer - especially oil level after a service. They're supposed to top to the max, twice they've replaced oil with just enough to get oil beyond min on the district,. Lookers have chipped and scraped bodywork and said nowt on 2 separate occasions
 Lookers around Tyneside are sh!te!

Do you really check tyre pressures though
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: mcmaddy on 04 August 2020, 19:59
I do. I like mine done properly by myself.
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: barrym381 on 04 August 2020, 20:46
I do. I like mine done properly by myself.

Do you check them in the dealers car park or when you get home
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: monkeyhanger on 04 August 2020, 21:04


Do you really check tyre pressures though

Yep. At times though you can tell they're miles off (usually 4-5psi too high) with the hardness of the ride.
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: barrym381 on 04 August 2020, 21:39


Do you really check tyre pressures though

Yep. At times though you can tell they're miles off (usually 4-5psi too high) with the hardness of the ride.

F**k I thought I was anal checking weekly and checking anything done by the stealers but I’d never check tyre pressure right after a service as I’ve never known a technician that could be arsed checking a customers unless they seen a tyre pressure warning
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: mcmaddy on 04 August 2020, 22:46
I do. I like mine done properly by myself.

Do you check them in the dealers car park or when you get home
I have checked pressures in the dealer car park before but usually check them at home after.
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: barrym381 on 05 August 2020, 00:22
I do. I like mine done properly by myself.

Do you check them in the dealers car park or when you get home
I have checked pressures in the dealer car park before but usually check them at home after.

Would you have complained if they had been a couple of psi out of spec
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: monkeyhanger on 05 August 2020, 05:54


Do you really check tyre pressures though

Yep. At times though you can tell they're miles off (usually 4-5psi too high) with the hardness of the ride.

F**k I thought I was anal checking weekly and checking anything done by the stealers but I’d never check tyre pressure right after a service as I’ve never known a technician that could be arsed checking a customers unless they seen a tyre pressure warning

If your dealers service was as bad as some of mine, you'd check everything and call it prudent rather than anal.

You pay £90 an hour for labour and generally get someone who knows f**k all about cars working on them.

They know only what the computer tells them to do.

High air pressure is not something I'd bring up in complaint with the dealers though, I'd just adjust (a good few hours after the car has been static to ensure I was reading cold pressures, as psi goes up 3-4 in use).

One more thing to add to the signage when you take your car in?

" Please don't wash my car with your gritty sponge...and leave the tyre pressures alone!".  :grin:
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: mcmaddy on 05 August 2020, 07:03
I do. I like mine done properly by myself.

Do you check them in the dealers car park or when you get home
I have checked pressures in the dealer car park before but usually check them at home after.

Would you have complained if they had been a couple of psi out of spec
  :grin: :grin: no
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: barrym381 on 05 August 2020, 11:10


Do you really check tyre pressures though

Yep. At times though you can tell they're miles off (usually 4-5psi too high) with the hardness of the ride.

F**k I thought I was anal checking weekly and checking anything done by the stealers but I’d never check tyre pressure right after a service as I’ve never known a technician that could be arsed checking a customers unless they seen a tyre pressure warning

If your dealers service was as bad as some of mine, you'd check everything and call it prudent rather than anal.

You pay £90 an hour for labour and generally get someone who knows f**k all about cars working on them.

They know only what the computer tells them to do.

High air pressure is not something I'd bring up in complaint with the dealers though, I'd just adjust (a good few hours after the car has been static to ensure I was reading cold pressures, as psi goes up 3-4 in use).

One more thing to add to the signage when you take your car in?

" Please don't wash my car with your gritty sponge...and leave the tyre pressures alone!".  :grin:

I’ve had some pretty shocking dealings with Glasgow Audi and Vw in Glasgow a few times so know what you mean  :grin:
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: p3asa on 05 August 2020, 12:16

I’ve had some pretty shocking dealings with Glasgow Audi and Vw in Glasgow a few times so know what you mean  :grin:


Same! Not a nice feeling leaving your car in their hands!
Title: Re: Dealer putting in too much PSI
Post by: barrym381 on 05 August 2020, 13:13

I’ve had some pretty shocking dealings with Glasgow Audi and Vw in Glasgow a few times so know what you mean  :grin:


Same! Not a nice feeling leaving your car in their hands!

I’ve learned not to unless it’s warranty work even then they get left with simply instructions not to touch anything else on the car  :grin: