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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Alex1969 on 02 July 2020, 11:26
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Hi, I'm looking at getting a Golf GTI MK7 PP and I think I have found the one but the MOT history looks a bit dodgy with it needing new tyres almost every test. It also failed on headlamp aim too low on both headlights which I find odd since I thought they were HID and so auto levelling, I wonder what might have caused this? I hope I'm not reading to much into this but I want to make sure I'm not getting a car that has been thrashed all its life.
I've tried to upload images for you below:
https://ibb.co/JHCkS0j
https://ibb.co/fMfkv5V
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Walk away there is loads for sale
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Walk away there is loads for sale
There are a lot of standard GTI's for sale but I'm wanting leather, Sat Nav, Heated Seats, 5 door and PP at least and the price range I'm looking at, there aren't many. This is the only one of two sold by a trader I have ever found since looking, 3 months all together although COVID 19 has messed the frequency of cars showing up for the past few months. But thanks for the reply nonetheless.
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Walk away there is loads for sale
There are a lot of standard GTI's for sale but I'm wanting leather, Sat Nav, Heated Seats, 5 door and PP at least and the price range I'm looking at, there aren't many. This is the only one of two sold by a trader I have ever found since looking, 3 months all together although COVID 19 has messed the frequency of cars showing up for the past few months. But thanks for the reply nonetheless.
Looks like you’ve made your mind up already :smiley can u post a link to the car
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Full HPI/AA whatever check & try and contact previous owner.
I did HPI on an A3 a few years ago, came back clear but still dubious. Was a lease car so contacted lease company, car had been written off!!
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Full HPI/AA whatever check & try and contact previous owner.
I did HPI on an A3 a few years ago, came back clear but still dubious. Was a lease car so contacted lease company, car had been written off!!
You mean someone had smashed the car and it had been repaired it couldn’t have been written off
An hpi check won’t tell you if the cars ever been in a smash it would only flag up if the car had been written off :smiley there is millions of cars on our roads that’s been smashed and not written off some repaired right some not
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Some insurers haven't been updating the write off's database "quickly" so you do have to be really careful. AXA was the example I saw on the TV.
Not really sure how you can be careful though.
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Walk away there is loads for sale
There are a lot of standard GTI's for sale but I'm wanting leather, Sat Nav, Heated Seats, 5 door and PP at least and the price range I'm looking at, there aren't many. This is the only one of two sold by a trader I have ever found since looking, 3 months all together although COVID 19 has messed the frequency of cars showing up for the past few months. But thanks for the reply nonetheless.
Looks like you’ve made your mind up already :smiley can u post a link to the car
I don't really want to post a link to the car since I don't want It to be advertised too much as I may still want it and like I said it's very rare to find one like this at the price range. I know its selfish but I've been waiting for months for a new car. :smiley: Are there any specific details you want, I could provide. A few more details of the car is its fully VW serviced and the photos from the dealer look clean, no curbing on the wheels although may have been refurbished since I first saw the car appear a few weeks ago but without images, it took them 2 weeks to upload images, which also has me wondering whether they took that time to repair obvious damage? There are just a lot of question marks with it. Looks great though! It has the upgraded Santiago wheels in Grey, I know the Santiago wheels are a factory option but I didn't know in the colour grey? And yes it is so hard to say no to a car that you really like, it happened to me a month ago with a private seller, seemed like a perfect car but I got a mechanical inspection on it and there were signs of bad repair damage and an oil leak even though it was fully serviced by VW.
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An hpi check won’t tell you if the cars ever been in a smash it would only flag up if the car had been written off :smiley there is millions of cars on our roads that’s been smashed and not written off some repaired right some not
Like my 2007 Golf GT Sport 170TDI that got hit by a bus at 2 weeks old and was never right since with a piss poor repair. So close to being written off at the time.
Some poor unsuspecting soul would've bought that from Lookers Newcastle and wondered why the rear wheel arch rusted up every 3 months.
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Is the need for leather worth overlooking all those warning flags you've already uncovered?
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Some insurers haven't been updating the write off's database "quickly" so you do have to be really careful. AXA was the example I saw on the TV.
Not really sure how you can be careful though.
Yeah, I wonder, the engine bay on the car is incredibly clean on one side since the photo is taken from a certain side and so I cant tell whether the other side is as clean but this could be a sign of it being repaired from a font end collision, which may explain the bad headlamp alignment on the car's MOT or it could be a really good detail. There's no way of telling from the photos, a viewing is probably required but its quite a distance from me so not so easy to just pop down.
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An hpi check won’t tell you if the cars ever been in a smash it would only flag up if the car had been written off :smiley there is millions of cars on our roads that’s been smashed and not written off some repaired right some not
Like my 2007 Golf GT Sport 170TDI that got hit by a bus at 2 weeks old and was never right since with a piss poor repair. So close to being written off at the time.
Some poor unsuspecting soul would've bought that from Lookers Newcastle and wondered why the rear wheel arch rusted up every 3 months.
I see this happening daily cars being repaired and some of them not very well :whistle:
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To the OP - you need to view the car and have a really good look over it. And or get an independent assessment. With those options I would think it more likely a privately owned car than a lease. How many owners has it had? Check for repainted/replaced panels. When you're in front of it all may be clear either way. And see if the buckled wheel has been replaced although if it is minor and balances okay it shouldn't be a problem.
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Just post a link to the car there is no way anyone reading this will rush down to buy it now :grin:
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Is the need for leather worth overlooking all those warning flags you've already uncovered?
The leather is defiantly a luxury, but a nice one. I want at the very least heated seats, nav and PP, leather I can let slide for the perfect car but i'm not a great fan of the tartan cloth. Still rare without the leather though and I have been chasing cars without the leather but things like gaps in the MOT and service history have meant I havent gone with them. This one does have a full VW service history and when the MOT has been done, although there are a lot of questions on them, every time they have had the work done for everything, no left over advisories or anything.
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Full Vw history doesn’t mean it hasn’t been smashed or indeed abused it just means one of the owners has been shafted everytime it’s entered the dealer
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To the OP - you need to view the car and have a really good look over it. And or get an independent assessment. With those options I would think it more likely a privately owned car than a lease. How many owners has it had? Check for repainted/replaced panels. When you're in front of it all may be clear either way. And see if the buckled wheel has been replaced although if it is minor and balances okay it shouldn't be a problem.
Yeah, I assume the wheel has been repaired since it wasn't on the next MOT as an advisory and it has only had one previous owner, 2015 reg car as well FYI. Thanks for all of your guys responses, I appreciate it. :smiley:
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Full Vw history doesn’t mean it hasn’t been smashed or indeed abused it just means one of the owners has been shafted everytime it’s entered the dealer
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Full Vw history doesn’t mean it hasn’t been smashed or indeed abused it just means one of the owners has been shafted everytime it’s entered the dealer
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Don’t know what you’re laughing for as it’s true :grin: :grin:
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I want at the very least heated seats, nav
These were all standard from around a 65 plate iirc. So a good 65 PP, should be loads of those?
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My opinion.
Headlights
A few owners on here if you look back have complained of them being set too low. Including me.
The failure wouldn’t be a major concern to me if there’s no obvious crash repair.
I also know some mot centres fail on a headlight to get an extra £30 out of you. Happened to me years ago on a 3 year Bmw that had never been crashed.
Tyres
If you look at mot failures, a lot of cars fail on worn tyres. Some owners run the tyres down and wait for the next mot/service to get them sorted out. I bulge may not have been visible to the owner.
If the car checks out with no accident damage I don’t see any concern.
Big plus that it’s been serviced at Vw. Shows the owner wasn’t quick to save a few pound going to a back street garage. Also check to see what tyres are on it. Chinese crap or a brand shows the owner cared.
Don’t forget to check the dsg has been serviced if it’s got one. And also the diff.
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My opinion.
Headlights
A few owners on here if you look back have complained of them being set too low. Including me.
The failure wouldn’t be a major concern to me if there’s no obvious crash repair.
I also know some mot centres fail on a headlight to get an extra £30 out of you. Happened to me years ago on a 3 year Bmw that had never been crashed.
Tyres
If you look at mot failures, a lot of cars fail on worn tyres. Some owners run the tyres down and wait for the next mot/service to get them sorted out. I bulge may not have been visible to the owner.
If the car checks out with no accident damage I don’t see any concern.
Big plus that it’s been serviced at Vw. Shows the owner wasn’t quick to save a few pound going to a back street garage. Also check to see what tyres are on it. Chinese crap or a brand shows the owner cared.
Don’t forget to check the dsg has been serviced if it’s got one. And also the diff.
All the tyres are Pirelli so that's all good even though Michelin PS4's are the best :smiley: Thanks for your response :smiley:
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How about the old trick of checking front and rear number plates to see if the dealer is the same.
Difference shows they might have replaced the front if it’s been in an accident?
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How about the old trick of checking front and rear number plates to see if the dealer is the same.
Difference shows they might have replaced the front if it’s been in an accident?
Good advice :smiley:
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How about the old trick of checking front and rear number plates to see if the dealer is the same.
Difference shows they might have replaced the front if it’s been in an accident?
Great, idea. I've checked and both number plates are the same however they have the dealership that is currently selling it. It's an independent dealer not VW FYI.
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How about the old trick of checking front and rear number plates to see if the dealer is the same.
Difference shows they might have replaced the front if it’s been in an accident?
Great, idea. I've checked and both number plates are the same however they have the dealership that is currently selling it. It's an independent dealer not VW FYI.
Maybe if you post a link to the car we might get a better judgment on the car and dealer I can’t honestly see any of the few thousand forum members rushing to buy it compared to the millions of people going through adverts online
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What sort of person takes a car for an MOT for it to fail on tyres?
That would put me right off!
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What sort of person takes a car for an MOT for it to fail on tyres?
That would put me right off!
I know a few. They just see it as part of the service of the MOT and expect them to do the leg work.
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How about the old trick of checking front and rear number plates to see if the dealer is the same.
Difference shows they might have replaced the front if it’s been in an accident?
Great, idea. I've checked and both number plates are the same however they have the dealership that is currently selling it. It's an independent dealer not VW FYI.
Maybe if you post a link to the car we might get a better judgment on the car and dealer I can’t honestly see any of the few thousand forum members rushing to buy it compared to the millions of people going through adverts online
Hi guys, so here's the link to the car:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202006069860723?fromSavedAds=true&advertising-location=at_cars
https://www.moorelands.com/stock/used-cars-in-basingstoke-hampshire?make=7c7bec91-9f00-474d-94f0-a09b00e6c9c6&model=&pricerange=0%2C110000
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Is it just me or does the bonnet look peppered with stone chips or has it just visited a cheap car wash all it’s life and the drivers bolster needs done by looks of it
And if u can see a dealers name on either of those plates your eyes are better than mine
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I wouldn’t buy this car.
Had a distorted rear wheel- presumably repaired, and needed new rear tyres in 17k.
If the offer looks too good to be true, it probably is!
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And apart from the fact that it’s likely to have been crashed, the owner(s) has clearly not looked after it- it is more advisories on 3 mots as my 33 year old Peugeot has had ever!
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Walk away, the engine bay as others have pointed out looks suspect. The front end and bonnet paintwork is very poor (and always looks worse in person). Rear wheel looks distorted. Bolster wear. Dodhy MOT history. Plenty of better examples out there. AVOID
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I wouldn’t buy this car.
Had a distorted rear wheel- presumably repaired, and needed new rear tyres in 17k.
If the offer looks too good to be true, it probably is!
I'm now leaning to this too. Too many things possibly wrong:
Took two weeks to get photos on, were they repairing or making good of a bodge job.
The engine bay looks way to clean from the photos possible sign of everything needing replacing due to a front end collision.
Both plates have the dealership name that is currently selling it so did this garage repair the front end.
The above possibly explains why both the headlights on the mot history were to low because they were replaced, not to standard.
Tyres are needing replacing almost every MOT, signs of the car being driven hard or tracked.
Wheel distorted, maybe from hitting pot hole, possible signs of carelessness, although sometimes unavoidable, or just ragging it everywhere hitting inconsistencies in the road.
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All helpful advise above but really OP, if you like the car just go and have a look. It costs nothing and pictures can be deceptive. These cars suffer badly from stone chips so you can expect plenty on the bonnet or that it has had a respray. A 6 year old car is not going to be factory fresh! The Santiagos can buckle but are quite strong, two of mine had a bit of distortion but it made no difference to the drive plus these ones have been painted so the diamond cut issues won't be a problem. It has Dunlops all round so someone has spent a bit of money. But as I said, go and have a look! You can't decide on just pictures. Also I only scraped 20k miles out of a set of Pirellis so 17k is entirely possible to wear a set out. Go and have a look! Did I say that before?
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Is it just me or does the bonnet look peppered with stone chips or has it just visited a cheap car wash all it’s life and the drivers bolster needs done by looks of it
And if u can see a dealers name on either of those plates your eyes are better than mine
Yeah the bonnet does look bad but I always think if there are a few stone chips, which mainly happen on the motorway or dual carriageway, the car has had easy miles as its mainly been driven on motorways. Or this could be the owner tailgating every car on country roads, which would not surprise me with the history of the car. Yeah, I also noticed the driver bolster, didn't really think much of it but maybe signs of a lot of short journeys since its only 48k so shouldn't be that worn? I watched the video to see the dealership name on the plates and slowed it down so i could read it and I'm pretty sure it says moorelands LTD and then the postcode.
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All helpful advise above but really OP, if you like the car just go and have a look. It costs nothing and pictures can be deceptive. These cars suffer badly from stone chips so you can expect plenty on the bonnet or that it has had a respray. A 6 year old car is not going to be factory fresh! The Santiagos can buckle but are quite strong, two of mine had a bit of distortion but it made no difference to the drive plus these ones have been painted so the diamond cut issues won't be a problem. It has Dunlops all round so someone has spent a bit of money. But as I said, go and have a look! You can't decide on just pictures. Also I only scraped 20k miles out of a set of Pirellis so 17k is entirely possible to wear a set out. Go and have a look! Did I say that before?
Yeah, good point. If it was close i would but its over a 100 miles away from where i am.
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https://www.mattjohnsonprestigecars.co.uk/used-cars/volkswagen-golf-2-0-tsi-bluemotion-tech-gti-performance-pack-ss-5dr-barrow-in-furness-202006270581039
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https://www.mattjohnsonprestigecars.co.uk/used-cars/volkswagen-golf-2-0-tsi-bluemotion-tech-gti-performance-pack-ss-5dr-barrow-in-furness-202006270581039
Thanks, but this is over my budget, really 14,500 is my max budget at the moment, its just this car was, what i thought, a really good find so was willing to go the extra mile. Also this white one doesn't have sat nav. But still a nice car. :smiley:
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https://www.mattjohnsonprestigecars.co.uk/used-cars/volkswagen-golf-2-0-tsi-bluemotion-tech-gti-performance-pack-ss-5dr-barrow-in-furness-202006270581039
Child seat has made that rear seat look terrible :shocked:
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https://www.mattjohnsonprestigecars.co.uk/used-cars/volkswagen-golf-2-0-tsi-bluemotion-tech-gti-performance-pack-ss-5dr-barrow-in-furness-202006270581039
Child seat has made that rear seat look terrible :shocked:
Looks pretty standard for VW leather at 6yrs old. Nothing a bit of heat wouldn't sort if you so wanted. Personally, I find pictures make creases/sags in the leather look a lot worse than it actually is in real life.
Just noticed it doesn't have Nav though, so either factor in a MIB retrofit cost as well.
As Jim pointed out, 7.5 prices are closing in, so there is lots of movement in these 7 prices, but as also pointed out, good cars are hard to find and there's lots of rubbish out there.
That black car looks and sounds terrible, don't let your heart rule your head is my advice.
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https://www.mattjohnsonprestigecars.co.uk/used-cars/volkswagen-golf-2-0-tsi-bluemotion-tech-gti-performance-pack-ss-5dr-barrow-in-furness-202006270581039
Child seat has made that rear seat look terrible :shocked:
Looks pretty standard for VW leather at 6yrs old. Nothing a bit of heat wouldn't sort if you so wanted. Personally, I find pictures make creases/sags in the leather look a lot worse than it actually is in real life.
I agree, I always find photos make the leather look saggy and lose.
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https://www.mattjohnsonprestigecars.co.uk/used-cars/volkswagen-golf-2-0-tsi-bluemotion-tech-gti-performance-pack-ss-5dr-barrow-in-furness-202006270581039
Child seat has made that rear seat look terrible :shocked:
Looks pretty standard for VW leather at 6yrs old. Nothing a bit of heat wouldn't sort if you so wanted. Personally, I find pictures make creases/sags in the leather look a lot worse than it actually is in real life.
We have a17 year old r32 with double the mileage and it doesn’t look anywhere near as bad as that
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Sagging leathers and worn bolsters usually caused by too many mars bars
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Sagging leathers and worn bolsters usually caused by too many mars bars
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its no cherished example thats for sure !!!😂😂
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All helpful advise above but really OP, if you like the car just go and have a look. It costs nothing and pictures can be deceptive. These cars suffer badly from stone chips so you can expect plenty on the bonnet or that it has had a respray. A 6 year old car is not going to be factory fresh! The Santiagos can buckle but are quite strong, two of mine had a bit of distortion but it made no difference to the drive plus these ones have been painted so the diamond cut issues won't be a problem. It has Dunlops all round so someone has spent a bit of money. But as I said, go and have a look! You can't decide on just pictures. Also I only scraped 20k miles out of a set of Pirellis so 17k is entirely possible to wear a set out. Go and have a look! Did I say that before?
Good advice to go and have a look. Unless its a serious trek.
And it's entirely possible to wear tyres out much quicker than that..... :whistle:
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All helpful advise above but really OP, if you like the car just go and have a look. It costs nothing and pictures can be deceptive. These cars suffer badly from stone chips so you can expect plenty on the bonnet or that it has had a respray. A 6 year old car is not going to be factory fresh! The Santiagos can buckle but are quite strong, two of mine had a bit of distortion but it made no difference to the drive plus these ones have been painted so the diamond cut issues won't be a problem. It has Dunlops all round so someone has spent a bit of money. But as I said, go and have a look! You can't decide on just pictures. Also I only scraped 20k miles out of a set of Pirellis so 17k is entirely possible to wear a set out. Go and have a look! Did I say that before?
Good advice to go and have a look. Unless its a serious trek.
And it's entirely possible to wear tyres out much quicker than that..... :whistle:
17k for rear tyres on a fairly light fwd? Wow!
My front are down to 3mm after 11k miles, rears hardly worn.
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17k for rear tyres on a fairly light fwd? Wow!
My front are down to 3mm after 11k miles, rears hardly worn.
I rotated mine every 5k miles to keep all four tyres evenly worn as I preferred to replace a full set at a time so yes, 17k miles for a full set isn't unreasonable.
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Interesting. Yes, that could explain it.
I’ve been looking forward to changing the bridgestones on mine to PS4s. I’ll replace all 4. Not sure what I’ll do with the perfectly good rears
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Interesting. Yes, that could explain it.
I’ve been looking forward to changing the bridgestones on mine to PS4s. I’ll replace all 4. Not sure what I’ll do with the perfectly good rears
Sell them? Anything you get is a bonus! I just prefer to replace in fours rather than always have two old tyres.
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Interesting. Yes, that could explain it.
I’ve been looking forward to changing the bridgestones on mine to PS4s. I’ll replace all 4. Not sure what I’ll do with the perfectly good rears
Sell them? Anything you get is a bonus! I just prefer to replace in fours rather than always have two old tyres.
Yup, probably better than them gathering dust in the shed!