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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Rob_benton on 28 April 2020, 22:17
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Hi
After reading the PistonHeads review, a couple of owners mentioned rust on the sills and arches and I’m sure someone had issues too on this forum, is this becoming more regular now mk7’s are getting on ?
Has anyone else noticed rust appearing ?
I’m going to give it a thorough check but I haven’t noticed anything yet.
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I've not heard of any rust issues on here, but given how the paint can chip so easily I can imagine "hidden" areas (to those that may not pay much attention to) could easily go through to bare metal leading to surface rust. But that could happen to any car. Anyone who regularly tends to their car should spot potential issues in plenty of time and with a bit of effort avoid them becoming a problem.
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I've not heard of any rust issues on here, but given how the paint can chip so easily I can imagine "hidden" areas (to those that may not pay much attention to) could easily go through to bare metal leading to surface rust. But that could happen to any car. Anyone who regularly tends to their car should spot potential issues in plenty of time and with a bit of effort avoid them becoming a problem.
One of the best things you can do is wash your own car. Will find things you've never noticed before
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I've not heard of any rust issues on here, but given how the paint can chip so easily I can imagine "hidden" areas (to those that may not pay much attention to) could easily go through to bare metal leading to surface rust. But that could happen to any car. Anyone who regularly tends to their car should spot potential issues in plenty of time and with a bit of effort avoid them becoming a problem.
One of the best things you can do is wash your own car. Will find things you've never noticed before
Very true, perhaps a little more often than I've managed recently though....
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I imagine it will be with front wings and the big piece of foam on the inside - the foam has caused issues with previous golfs.
This would be the main place i would check first, around the inside and bottom of wings and sils
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I imagine it will be with front wings and the big piece of foam on the inside - the foam has caused issues with previous golfs.
This would be the main place i would check first, around the inside and bottom of wings and sils
Do mk7’s have foam still in the front wheel arches ? Surely not !
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Anyone who regularly tends to their car should spot potential issues in plenty of time and with a bit of effort avoid them becoming a problem.
One of the best things you can do is wash your own car. Will find things you've never noticed before
^This - any damage can be spotted and dealt with early. One of the first things I buy when I get a new car is a paint touch up kit - often bought before I get the car, to deal with the inevitable stone chips as and when they happen.
With a modern car though, I think I’d be more concerned about mechanical and electrical failures than the likelihood of corrosion.
I imagine it will be with front wings and the big piece of foam on the inside - the foam has caused issues with previous golfs.
This would be the main place i would check first, around the inside and bottom of wings and sils
The mk6 Golf had foam inserts where the front wings were joined to the car body shell near the door hinges. I never had any issues with corrosion on my mk6 in this area (or anywhere else for that matter) in nearly 5 years of ownership, in spite of this foam insert getting wet regularly. Come to think of it, I can’t remember seeing a rusty mk6, so assuming the mk7 body shell and panels get the same level of corrosion protection as the mk6 did, if the mk7 has a similar foam insert piece in the same location, I wouldn’t expect this as major source of corrosion on the mk7.
Corrosion on the sills is usually the result of the flexible anti-stone chip coating becoming damaged around the jacking points as a result of careless use of trolley jacks by tyre fitters. I always check the edges of my sills for damage after having tyres fitted, or after servicing / MOT and repair work to ensure the anti-stone chip coating hasn’t been damaged.
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Corrosion on the sills is usually the result of the flexible anti-stone chip coating becoming damaged around the jacking points as a result of careless use of trolley jacks by tyre fitters. I always check the edges of my sills for damage after having tyres fitted, or after servicing / MOT and repair work to ensure the anti-stone chip coating hasn’t been damaged.
Absolutely.
I am so OCD about this that I take the wheels off myself at home and take them in another car to the tyre shop for them to fit & balance the new tyre......
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I'm the lucky one who was talking about my rust on piston heads!
I was going to post on here but couldn't upload pictures of my car.
My patches were on both sides on the front wing on the underside of the gap between the door and lower sill), and at the back low down before the wheel arch where there was bubbling under the paint (this is the bit that VW wouldn't fix under warranty as they deemed it to be caused by an "external influence").
This bubbling is still to be fixed and hasn't got any worse (probably 7 months after first finding it too).
The patches they did fix they only did the affected area, I thought they might just replace the wing it was on!
I have slightly wider wheels on my car than standard so I was worried about pushing VW too hard in case they blamed that.
My whole argument was that it doesn't matter what initially caused it to bubble, as a car under 3 years shouldn't be rusting anyway. I have stone chips on the bonnet that haven't rusted!
The warranty guy who did the report said that according to his file on rust issues that it matched galvanising issues from his experience. But VW didn't agree with him, nor did the independent inspector who came out (though he came through VW).
All a bit of a sour experience to be honest.
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@burger81 just keep on at them I had similar issues with Audi a few years ago with my roof on our s3 they tried to blame a stone chip although there was no visible chip
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Tried everything mate, nothing worked. They were being a55holes about it.
They just didn't understand my point of view.
All it would have been was around £800 out of their pocket to keep a customer happy, and they weren't willing to do it even with the car already booked in at their paintshop. Said it all for me really.
Probably won't buy a VW again in the future.
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↑ looking at your pistonheads thread if you had said it was the other way round and point A wasnt covered but point B was I would have understood that completely. Point A On the front wings I have seen on mk4 and 5 and I believe maybe caused by stone chip from wheels that stick out. This can then break the paint surface, water gets in and starts flaking when the wing flexes. Causing chunks to flake off. Hen starts rusting as its always getting wet and debree there due to incorrect offaet wheels. Thry also rust there fromthe inside out but thats the sponge issue or manufacturing line clamping of the sills body issue thats well documented.
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@Burger81 - sorry to hear of your experiences. There does seem to be a reluctance by VW to honour their corrosion warranty in many instances, and an inconsistency of approach by VW / dealerships on individual cases. Historically, quite a few owners of VW’s from the early 2000’s experienced front wing corrosion, with varying degrees of success when claiming for rectification under the corrosion warranty (apologies for my lengthy ramblings below, which gives some background to those cases :grin:).
Corrosion on the front wings along the edge / wheel arch flange of the upper section of the wheel arch wasn’t uncommon on early 2000’s VW models. VW’s standard response in many instances was that the rectification of the corrosion wasn’t covered under the corrosion warranty, as the rusting was caused by a ‘mechanical defect‘.
The corrosion on cars from that era was caused by poor design of how the plastic wheel arch liner was fixed / fitted to the car, resulting in vibration and slight movement of the liner, and the edge of the liner rubbing through the galvanised layer on reverse side of wheel arch flange. This allowed road dirt and moisture to corrode the edge of the wing from the reverse side, and by the time paint bubbles or visible corrosion was evident on the outer surface, corrosion was usually well advanced. It was the action of wheel arch liner rubbing against the wing that VW considered to be a mechanical defect.
Foam filler blocks fitted between inner and outer wings on early 2000’s VW’s is also a known cause of corrosion.
Owners who had one or both of these problems and asked for repairs under warranty tended to get one of four outcomes;
- Warranty claim was denied on the basis of the corrosion being the result of a mechanical defect and not rusting-through from the inside out of the affected panel(s) as a result of ineffective corrosion protection
- Warranty claim denied, but VW contributed towards the cost of repairs if the car had a full VW service history
- The corroded panel(s) was (were) repaired under warranty
- The corroded panel(s) was (were) replaced under warranty
Since Dieselgate and the associated costs that VW have incurred, they are generally taking a much firmer line on warranty claims. So if there’s anything they can use to support repudiation of a claim, there’s a good chance they may do so.
In view of the historical inconsistent approach, you could try a different dealer to see if you get a different response and outcome.
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Tried everything mate, nothing worked. They were being a55holes about it.
They just didn't understand my point of view.
All it would have been was around £800 out of their pocket to keep a customer happy, and they weren't willing to do it even with the car already booked in at their paintshop. Said it all for me really.
Probably won't buy a VW again in the future.
Do you have any photos of the rust so we know the exact areas to keep an eye on ? Thanks
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If I could work out how to post pictures I could show you!
Alternatively there is a thread on piston heads under the bodywork and detailing section, 11 pages in titled 2016 golf GTi rust.