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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: ianj37 on 24 February 2020, 20:17

Title: Add on Blindspot Mirrors
Post by: ianj37 on 24 February 2020, 20:17
I realise that from the overall looks of the car point of view this is near sacrilege, but does anyone know of a blindspot mirror that sits on top of the door mirror casing and will fit a mk7.5?
I have a neck problem and bought my mk7.5 prereg so getting the the radar blindspot monitoring fitted wasn't an option. The gap between the door mirror glass and the casing is very small and with the two different makes of add on mirror that I've tried so far the mounting bracket jams the door mirror glass. I know there are blindspot mirrors that can be stuck to the glass of the door mirror but I really don't want to go down this route - I think the door mirror is small enough as it is without making it any smaller.
Grateful for any advice
Thanks
Ian
Title: Re: Add on Blindspot Mirrors
Post by: fredgroves on 24 February 2020, 21:08
What about this:

http://vagtec.co.uk/eshop/genuine-volkswagen-oem-retrofit-kit-blind-spot-assist-vw-golf-7-5g.html
Title: Re: Add on Blindspot Mirrors
Post by: dubber36 on 25 February 2020, 08:28
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Adjustable-Blind-Spot-Mirror-Instructor/dp/B075MFC2V5

These sort of things are used by the police and driving instructors. They are cheap enough to buy and see how you get on with them.
Title: Re: Add on Blindspot Mirrors
Post by: rajb on 25 February 2020, 09:59
What about this:

http://vagtec.co.uk/eshop/genuine-volkswagen-oem-retrofit-kit-blind-spot-assist-vw-golf-7-5g.html


Ohhhh I do like genuine retrofits even if I don't actually need them lol
Title: Re: Add on Blindspot Mirrors
Post by: mcmaddy on 25 February 2020, 12:28
Very expensive from them though!
Title: Re: Add on Blindspot Mirrors
Post by: Catnapper on 25 February 2020, 13:07
Why not something internally?
https://www.mobilitysmart.co.uk/panoramic-car-mirror.html?ff=1&fp=14074&gclid=Cj0KCQiAqNPyBRCjARIsAKA-WFyAIGT5juM-Nw78eddZTcWrcdxwrNjfPPNa9sDdRqag3ZyFE9CcbiYaApEHEALw_wcB
Title: Re: Add on Blindspot Mirrors
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 25 February 2020, 14:14
Very expensive from them though!

These are a cheaper option? About £5  :smiley:

(https://i.postimg.cc/sXQmpK7f/Screenshot-2020-02-25-at-14-12-55.png) (https://postimg.cc/2bYnYQ0g)
Title: Re: Add on Blindspot Mirrors
Post by: rajb on 25 February 2020, 15:09
Very expensive from them though!

I might enquire at the dealers to see too.
Title: Re: Add on Blindspot Mirrors
Post by: rajb on 25 February 2020, 15:11

These are a cheaper option? About £5  :smiley:

(https://i.postimg.cc/sXQmpK7f/Screenshot-2020-02-25-at-14-12-55.png) (https://postimg.cc/2bYnYQ0g)

Now those are just the trick.
Title: Re: Add on Blindspot Mirrors
Post by: mcmaddy on 25 February 2020, 15:48
Very expensive from them though!

I might enquire at the dealers to see too.
I wouldn't bother with them, they won't do retrofits. Most won't anyway.
Title: Re: Add on Blindspot Mirrors
Post by: fredgroves on 25 February 2020, 16:16
Yeah you won't get a dealer retrofitting OEM equipment.

I am not even sure how the guys who do this manage it because I thought it required VW factory activation authorisation...
Title: Re: Add on Blindspot Mirrors
Post by: mcmaddy on 25 February 2020, 16:44
It does Fred but people can do it.
Title: Re: Add on Blindspot Mirrors
Post by: ianj37 on 25 February 2020, 20:47
Thanks to everyone who took the time to read my question and especially to those who had suggestions to offer.
So from the top:
fredgroves - I had thought that in a previous question on this site it had been said that these kits were for lefthand drive only so thanks for correcting that for me. Sadly the car still has 30 months warranty on it and the dealer has said that many bits of the warranty will be invalidated if I let another company fit kit so I'm afraid that's out (at least until it's 3 yrs old that is!).
Dubber36 - thanks but that is the exact modle I bought from Amazon only to find that the holding clip goes between the existing mirror casing and the glass, and the gap is too tight - if the door mirror is adjusted when this is in place it looks as if it will break.
Catnapper - I didn't know about those. I'll give them a go.
jim_mk7.5 - Yes! I'm liking those!!


 
Title: Re: Add on Blindspot Mirrors
Post by: rajb on 26 February 2020, 07:17
I wouldn't bother with them, they won't do retrofits. Most won't anyway.

Yeah you won't get a dealer retrofitting OEM equipment.

I am not even sure how the guys who do this manage it because I thought it required VW factory activation authorisation...

I might try them anyway as they did the rear camera retrofit on mine as have the receipt from the dealers.

BMW are always happy to take our money and retrofit stuff lol
Title: Re: Add on Blindspot Mirrors
Post by: mcmaddy on 26 February 2020, 08:27
It's dealer dependant it seems. Aberdeen VW will do retrofits but my local dealer won't.
Title: Re: Add on Blindspot Mirrors
Post by: rajb on 26 February 2020, 08:55
It's dealer dependant it seems. Aberdeen VW will do retrofits but my local dealer won't.

Yeah will try a couple and see.

I do find it strange some do and some don't, if the manufacturer offers a retrofit kit, then all the dealers have availability to supply and fit it as there are usually internal fitting documents etc available to the dealers and it would be another income generator in that sense for the dealers. Plus retrofits are usually covered under the warranty too then.
Title: Re: Add on Blindspot Mirrors
Post by: Crockers on 26 February 2020, 15:40
It's dealer dependant it seems. Aberdeen VW will do retrofits but my local dealer won't.

Yeah will try a couple and see.

I do find it strange some do and some don't, if the manufacturer offers a retrofit kit, then all the dealers have availability to supply and fit it as there are usually internal fitting documents etc available to the dealers and it would be another income generator in that sense for the dealers. Plus retrofits are usually covered under the warranty too then.

When I had my rear camera retrofitted I was told it comes with a VW 2 years parts and labour warranty. I like the idea of this retrofit, especially if the mirrors are black against my pure white body.
Title: Re: Add on Blindspot Mirrors
Post by: fredgroves on 26 February 2020, 15:55
especially if the mirrors are black against my pure white body.

Enough of your body self image issues  :laugh:
Title: Re: Add on Blindspot Mirrors
Post by: dubber36 on 27 February 2020, 08:00

Dubber36 - thanks but that is the exact modle I bought from Amazon only to find that the holding clip goes between the existing mirror casing and the glass, and the gap is too tight - if the door mirror is adjusted when this is in place it looks as if it will break.
 

I used Milenco towing mirrors on my B7 Passat. The gap between the glass and the casing was pretty tight, but if you tilt the glass down to fit the extra mirror, then adjust the glass back up, it will fit. It's bloody tight and sometimes did rub, but there's nothing that will break. If you need to adjust the glass up and it won't go, just ease the casing away a bit and it will go.

In theory, you should only need to fit them and adjust the glass once. It's not like towing mirrors that were on and off all the time.
Title: Re: Add on Blindspot Mirrors
Post by: rajb on 27 February 2020, 08:21
Well I did call up my local dealer (will try another one too) and got the response, they don't do this as a retrofit and it's not offered. I did mention that their are companies offering it as a retrofit and it appears to use genuine parts etc, and he told me they must be getting parts from scraped cars and creating their own retrofit  :huh: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Add on Blindspot Mirrors
Post by: dubber36 on 27 February 2020, 08:44
On the topic of retro fits. When I bought my Mk6 Golf (used) I asked for Bluetooth to the retro fitted at the dealers. They said that fully integrated could not be retro fitted. All they could offer was the touchscreen add on thing from the accessory catalogue. I told them about all the companies that did this and of all the kits that were for sale on ebay, but it seems that although they use genuine parts, they use a piggyback wiring harness that is aftermarket, therefore can't be warrantied.

The cars are built with their own bespoke wiring looms, so if additional, aftermarket wiring needs to be added, they won't go near it.
Title: Re: Add on Blindspot Mirrors
Post by: fredgroves on 27 February 2020, 09:22
I call bs on that on a mk7. Vw have been trying really hard to standardise builds, even more so on the mk8. That blind spot detection kit will plug straight into something. No messing. Nothing needs soldering. Besides what sort of warranty problem is it going to cause? They'd be hard pushed to refuse payouts on nearly everything except the blind spot system itself.
Title: Re: Add on Blindspot Mirrors
Post by: rajb on 27 February 2020, 09:46
I call bs on that on a mk7. Vw have been trying really hard to standardise builds, even more so on the mk8. That blind spot detection kit will plug straight into something. No messing. Nothing needs soldering. Besides what sort of warranty problem is it going to cause? They'd be hard pushed to refuse payouts on nearly everything except the blind spot system itself.

I am in complete agreement. I find it hard to believe that it can't be integrated quite easily. The retrofit kit that was linked earlier in the thread looks to use the genuine modules and like most things will just plug and play in. Possibly a small amount of coding will be required but can't see anything major as most have lane assist and the likes already for this to integrate in with.

BMW make a fortune on the retrofit kits and fitting etc as it's a huge market.

As for warranty, I've taken modded motors to BMW for years and never had an issue with warranty as the only thing they will refuse on is if the mod itself can be linked to the failed part.
Title: Re: Add on Blindspot Mirrors
Post by: mcmaddy on 27 February 2020, 12:34
Blind spot would need to activating through Odis or asking VW to do it which they probably won't. That's the issue with retrofits in general sometimes. Something people probably don't know about the mk8 is that vcds will not be able to change anything at all. Something to do with the car always being connected 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Add on Blindspot Mirrors
Post by: dubber36 on 27 February 2020, 13:38
My reference to warranties on the Mk6 Bluetooth retrofit was not regarding the cars warranty, but the warranty on the retro fitted parts. You get a warranty on the genuine accessory if fitted by the dealer, but not on anything with third party kits.

As for wiring looms, years ago you had a one fits all body harness for a model of car. Obviously engine harnesses would differ. My old Mk2 Cavalier for example. I had a lowly model with no rev counter. Bought a set of SRI clocks from the breakers, plugged then in and they work. The same with front fog lights. The wires were tucked up behind the bumper. Plug in a new switch, plug in the relay and they worked too. When you come to retro fit parts into modern cars, no hardware is in place. Yes, the BCM is often ready and just needs coding, but wiring needs to be added, and 9 times out of 10 it's an aftermarket part.