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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Npr on 15 February 2020, 14:05
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Hi
Looking at getting a 2- 3 year approvrd used old mk7 or hopefully 7.5 gti manual. A few questions please
I) mileage- will ensure fsh and serviced regularly. Looking at a couple around 40k miles but am I better to spend £500 more and get one with only 15-20k miles. Want to keep for a long time. What commonly goes wrong sooner? Clutch? Gearbox? Cam belt? What effect would it have on extended warranties. I think over 60k bmw warranties leap in price
2) test drove 245bhp & my wife thought it was noisy (rumble of exhaust- I kept in comfort whilst she was in the car) v our f30. Will test but is a 230 quieter?
3) etto but I'm not bothered about a sunroof Car has a/c and also without less to go wrong. Seen a couple of cars with s/r. Read some negative posts re rattle and odd leak. What is general consensus though, are they ok 95% of time or am I best to stay clear , particularly as I'm not bothered about one.
Thank you
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1) As long as they're priced correctly I would say buy on condition rather than age and mileage. But if £500 gets you a car in the same condition, service history etc i'd pay it if the mileage is much lower. Don't just check bodywork, interior etc, but also things like how much life the tyres have in them. GTi is chain driven rather than cambelt. GTi manual clutches aren't great, so test drive and look out for signs of slippage, high bite etc.
2) On mk7.5 you can alter the cabin noise via the Soundaktor to eco and it will be quieter inside. On Mk7 the only way to turn the engine noise down is either by putting car into eco mode or with vagcom / obd11.
3) Sunroof is down to personal taste. I don't care for them so wouldn't pay extra to have one. It's just something else that can go wrong in my opinion.
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I’d be interested in how you get on with your challenge as I’ll be in exactly the same position in a couple of months. Currently been PCP’ing BMW’s over recent years but now want a GTi that’s “mine”....
I’ll be looking at a budget around £16-£18k max, but want DCT due to mileage on slow congested motorways...
I guess it’s just a case of spending as much as you’re happy to and getting the best deal, car and spec you can haggle.
Let us know how you get on buddy.
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When considering mileage, ask how those miles were covered. I’d rather a car that had done 40k motorway miles than a 10k mile city car. The stress of city driving is a lot greater on suspension, brakes, clutch, joints, etc.
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7.5 for me as it has much better up to date tech
The virtual dash options keep the car interesting but I suppose if you prefer old school then that will not matter but for me Apple car play and virtual dash compatibility are great
Also 7.5 exterior design tweaks look sharper
I came from a beemer m135i and although that was a rocket ship it was less fun to drive and more tiresome.
The 7.5 is such a great day to day car ticks so many boxes - I’m really enjoying being back in a GTI :grin: :grin:
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7.5 for me as it has much better up to date tech
The virtual dash options keep the car interesting but I suppose if you prefer old school then that will not matter but for me Apple car play and virtual dash compatibility are great
Also 7.5 exterior design tweaks look sharper
I came from a beemer m135i and although that was a rocket ship it was less fun to drive and more tiresome.
The 7.5 is such a great day to day car ticks so many boxes - I’m really enjoying being back in a GTI :grin: :grin:
Yeah, am with you there. I’ve had a M135i and a 340i. Both with stonkin’ straight 6 engines, but really looking forward to getting back in a GTi :smiley:
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Hi
Looking at getting a 2- 3 year approvrd used old mk7 or hopefully 7.5 gti manual. A few questions please
I) mileage- will ensure fsh and serviced regularly. Looking at a couple around 40k miles but am I better to spend £500 more and get one with only 15-20k miles. Want to keep for a long time. What commonly goes wrong sooner? Clutch? Gearbox? Cam belt? What effect would it have on extended warranties. I think over 60k bmw warranties leap in price
2) test drove 245bhp & my wife thought it was noisy (rumble of exhaust- I kept in comfort whilst she was in the car) v our f30. Will test but is a 230 quieter?
3) etto but I'm not bothered about a sunroof Car has a/c and also without less to go wrong. Seen a couple of cars with s/r. Read some negative posts re rattle and odd leak. What is general consensus though, are they ok 95% of time or am I best to stay clear , particularly as I'm not bothered about one.
Thank you
Can only really help with question 2 as I’ve had both 7.5 engines. The 245 is quite a lot louder, a much better sound in my opinion with a deeper noise. The 230 non Performance model is more raspy, with the DSG farts but overall would say is noticeably quieter.
I did a comparison video but only at a standstill. You can hear the difference though. This was before I did the res delete on the 245.
https://youtu.be/IJCRKZV-7Ho
Good luck in your search, they are both great cars as is the Mk7 as well.
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The coolant pump is quite a common thing to go on them. Think mine went at roughly 35k.
Mine may be coming up for sale in 6 months or so but not sure yet. Been toying with the idea of going electric/hybrid to help bring commuter costs down as I'm spending the best part of £300 a month in fuel.
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Mine may be coming up for sale in 6 months or so but not sure yet. Been toying with the idea of going electric/hybrid to help bring commuter costs down as I'm spending the best part of £300 a month in fuel.
Same here, contemplating a 330e as a company car as the tax is very attractive and can get to and back from work on electric :smiley:
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Mine may be coming up for sale in 6 months or so but not sure yet. Been toying with the idea of going electric/hybrid to help bring commuter costs down as I'm spending the best part of £300 a month in fuel.
Same here, contemplating a 330e as a company car as the tax is very attractive and can get to and back from work on electric :smiley:
I don't know what I'd go for tbh. I really liked the look of the concept 'Honda e' but the production model isn't quite as nice. Think I'll have a test drive in one though and see how I get on with it. The only thing that lets them down is the poor range.
I'd love a Tesla Model 3 performance but I don't want to spend that sort of money on a car - I'm already paranoid on where I go/park in the Golf.
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I looked into 330e but the range is terrible apparently and once you switch back to combustion they are really thirsty given the weight penalty if the batteries
I’m my eyes the only usable and viable option out there is the Tesla’s but no way I’d spend that sort of cash
Next few years will see some improvement in the technology and by that time I’d have had a good 2/3 years in the GTI so hopefully good timing !
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Hybrids are rubbish. They only exist to avoid bik and congestion charging but both of those things are history. If you are thinking non ice you have to go fully electric. Maybe in the years to come someone other than tesla will give you a usable range without costing the same money as a porsche.
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Not convinced re electric. And hardly that sustainable either. Motor racing is doing a lot of research into alternative fuels and maybe that will turn up something that works in the mainstream.
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Hybrids are rubbish. They only exist to avoid bik and congestion charging but both of those things are history. If you are thinking non ice you have to go fully electric. Maybe in the years to come someone other than tesla will give you a usable range without costing the same money as a porsche.
Look at Kia and Hyundai, especially the Kia E Nero and Hyundai Electric Kona. Nicely built cars, with around 280 miles range and £33K ish. New Mini and Honda EVs, still expensive, but aimed at the premium market, where the early adopters are. The Electric Golf is viable, but VW will change the game when the ID3 hits the market. Range and charging needs a whole new mindset, and the infrastructure is a long way from adequate, but, with a little effort, EVs are doable now. I’ll let those early adopters sort everything out, while I enjoy a few years with my Fossil Fuel GTI, but my next car will be an EV.
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Hybrids are rubbish. They only exist to avoid bik and congestion charging but both of those things are history. If you are thinking non ice you have to go fully electric. Maybe in the years to come someone other than tesla will give you a usable range without costing the same money as a porsche.
My missus has an Auris Hybrid. Pretty decent to be honest around town although lacks any decent power on motorways.
Still, I can get 80mpg going to the office compared to 20 in the GTI.
And yes, BIK is still very attractive for the 330e, less than half as much the GTI for 2020/21.
Sorry, I didn't mean to send this thread off-topic.
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Hybrids seem to vary quite a bit. Bloke in work has an Auris as well and he gets about 65-70 on motorway commute. Yet if you look at a Lexus NX hybrid, 30-35! Quite a difference even taking into account slightly bigger vehicle. If you're not getting at least 45-50 may as well go petrol.
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If you're not getting at least 45-50 may as well go petrol.
If you aren't getting over 50, you might as well go diesel...
But it does depend on the shape/size of your vehicle I guess. If you want a Chelsea tractor to take little Tarquin and Thomasina to school (because in no way can they fit into a normal family sized hatchback like a Golf, being such a large load), you aren't going to get decent MPG hybrid or not. A two tonne plus vehicle shaped like a barn is never going to be fuel economical.
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I really liked the look of the concept 'Honda e' but the production model isn't quite as nice. Think I'll have a test drive in one though and see how I get on with it. The only thing that lets them down is the poor range.
Although I’ve not been paying too much attention to electric cars just yet despite liking the idea of them so long as they have Tesla performance (but would like GTI handling and not look like a jelly mould), but the Honda e concept car photos did catch my eye.
The styling grabbed me I think as it’s heavily influenced by Georgio Guigiaro hatches from the ‘70’s and early ‘80’s with more than a bit of mk1 Golf in there.
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Sod all this electric nonsense. Get yourself a stupidly gnarly V8 for 12 months whilst you still can. The lack of depreciation on something like a 10-15 year old RS4 will pay for the extra fuel it'll use. Just make sure it's already had all the big jobs done. You won't want to have to pay out £2k for discs and pads.
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Sod all this electric nonsense. Get yourself a stupidly gnarly V8 for 12 months whilst you still can. The lack of depreciation on something like a 10-15 year old RS4 will pay for the extra fuel it'll use. Just make sure it's already had all the big jobs done. You won't want to have to pay out £2k for discs and pads.
That's exactly what one of my mates did. Then fitted some extra poke... :cool:
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I can't bring myself to go hybrid/electric no matter how much it costs me in petrol. I'm running an E53 X5 4.8is, the 335i and the GTI. The GTI is supposed to be the daily economical car but still costing me £300 a month too as someone else mentioned. But hey ho, it's only money and the smiles per £ are worth more than trying to save a few quid and driving something so mundane and crap that I want to kill myself every time I get in it.
Also on the topic of the OP's initial questions, I have always gone with the car in budget (or generally increased my budget for the right car :whistle:) and gone with the most options I can get and mileage has never worried me as long as it's full service and plenty of receipts.
Again as already mentioned, my train of thought has always been I'd prefer a car that's clocked lots of mileage cruising along motorways than something that's driven only a few miles each day round town.