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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: mistac on 09 February 2020, 13:52

Title: Keyless entry
Post by: mistac on 09 February 2020, 13:52
As I am preparing for my GTI arrival and thinking of the little what might I want to buy beforehand question, can anyone who has picked up a new GTI in the last few weeks confirm whether the keyless now includes any form of motion sensor or do we still need to rely on faraday pouch/manually deactivating?

The below link seems to indicate the passat has it? If so, and the golf and other VW models do not, that just seems so stupid!

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-7655291/Car-makers-fight-against-keyless-crime-new-motion-sensor-tech.html

Cheers
Title: Re: Keyless entry
Post by: mcmaddy on 09 February 2020, 14:27
The new mk8 will have it but 7.5s don't.
Title: Re: Keyless entry
Post by: buddfridge on 09 February 2020, 14:36
Just lock the car fob and then tap the sensor on the door immediately, you will hear another click which will deactivate keyless entry, just be sure to wait 10 seconds or so to confirm all is locked, mine sometimes isn't, after that the car won't open without the fob being pressed.
Title: Re: Keyless entry
Post by: mistac on 09 February 2020, 14:41
The new mk8 will have it but 7.5s don't.

Thanks - it is surprising that over the course of time that VW have not either developed/tweaked the technology for all models or offered some kind of retrofit to offer it
Title: Re: Keyless entry
Post by: mcmaddy on 09 February 2020, 15:26
The new mk8 will have it but 7.5s don't.

Thanks - it is surprising that over the course of time that VW have not either developed/tweaked the technology for all models or offered some kind of retrofit to offer it
A £3 Faraday pouch does just the job 👍
Title: Re: Keyless entry
Post by: Talk-torque on 09 February 2020, 16:42
Just lock the car fob and then tap the sensor on the door immediately, you will hear another click which will deactivate keyless entry, just be sure to wait 10 seconds or so to confirm all is locked, mine sometimes isn't, after that the car won't open without the fob being pressed.

This does the job, makes the security just as if the car wasn’t keyless. If you have the alarm “chirp” enabled, you get one when you press the remote fob and another when you touch the door handle. After that the car is no longer keyless entry and you need to unlock the car using the remote. Mine has always done this reliably and, to be honest, I have got used to doing it most of the time, unless I am totally happy with where the car is parked and I’m not leaving it long.
Title: Re: Keyless entry
Post by: Watts on 09 February 2020, 17:35
Very useful chaps, I was wondering how this all worked :smiley:
Title: Re: Keyless entry
Post by: mcmaddy on 09 February 2020, 17:36
I'll probably use the turning keyless off and my pouch at the outset just to make sure  :grin:
Title: Re: Keyless entry
Post by: TonyJ on 17 February 2020, 10:21
Just lock the car fob and then tap the sensor on the door immediately, you will hear another click which will deactivate keyless entry, just be sure to wait 10 seconds or so to confirm all is locked, mine sometimes isn't, after that the car won't open without the fob being pressed.

Can I just check I am doing this correctly, as my 7.5 GTD does NOT work in this way ...

I have locked the door with the key fob
Immediately after locked, , I touch the sensor on the door handle - you then hear another click
If I leave the car for  minimum 5 minutes, and come back, I can STILL unlock the door by just touching the door handle. Keyless still seems to be working.
Am I doing something wrong ??

(I've tried it several times, and this "keyless deactivation" never works ...)
Title: Re: Keyless entry
Post by: fredgroves on 17 February 2020, 10:37
I suspect its not just being a Mk7.5, it needs to be a particular MY onwards.
Title: Re: Keyless entry
Post by: monkeyhanger on 17 February 2020, 11:01
Does everyone find keyless a bit flaky?

I have it on my Polo GTI+ (and the wifes).

For both cars it'll only work as intended 2/3 if the time to open the car up. Sometimes it won't respond, sometimes you'll hear the click of the central locking system locking, even though it is already locked. It's not on any particular door either, it doesn't seem to matter whether it is drivers doir or front passengers door.

It's usually the first use after overnight parking, but not always.
Title: Re: Keyless entry
Post by: Talk-torque on 17 February 2020, 11:05
Never had a problem with mine.
Title: Re: Keyless entry
Post by: Vwjap on 17 February 2020, 11:18
Yeah I find the first try after leaving the car a while it’s easier to use the remote, I put it down to the car going into some kinda battery saver
Title: Re: Keyless entry
Post by: mcmaddy on 17 February 2020, 13:45
No issues at all on mine Matt and I couldn't use it back in 2013 when we both drive the demo car from Mick  :grin:
Title: Re: Keyless entry
Post by: monkeyhanger on 17 February 2020, 14:52
It is less of a bother for me, seeing as I have my key in a trouser pocket and the missus has hers in a handbag that would rival Mary Poppins' for the amount of sh!te in it.

Neither car has failed to allow you to open the boot with the key on your person.

I'd assume the system is exactly the same but the keys themselves are slightly different in that The Polo GTI key comes with a plain chrome loop. That loop has a slightly different slot and lock configuration on top of the loop. If you want the Golf loops to fit, you have to trim the back peg with a dremel.

It seems then that the Polo has a newer key variant - might have something to do with it or maybe the controllers are confused (when it locks even though already locked) and need a reset?