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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Tally Wacker on 05 February 2020, 12:31
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Hi Folks.
Hoping you can help with an odd situation.
I have a 67 plate Golf GTI DSG (Digital Dash).
When its foggy (not often I know) & I have the front & rear fog lights on, when I pull up & go into reverse the guidance lines from the reversing camera show on the centre screen but no image.
If I switch off the fog lights the "normal" image returns. If I put the fog lights back on the normal image stays as it should.
Local VW Dealer has had it in & said they cant find any faults & that VW "think" its the way it should be & that the flare from the lights is making the camera not able to function!
I argued that if that was the case when I put the fog lights back on it would have the same so called flare & the camera image should blank out & it doesn't. They agreed that it was odd & to leave it with them to discuss with VW Technical Team.
If there is anyone out there with the same year & spec GTI could you please spare a couple of minutes to stick on your fog lights, drive for a minute or two, pull up & stick it in reverse & please tell me if your reversing camera does the same as mine.
I have put this on another forum & got nothing but sarcasm & abusive replies so hoping someone will be kind enough to help me here.
Just to be clear I do not drive around with my fog lights on all the time only when its foggy or thick mist.
Thank you in advance.
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Just tried mine, sunny day, not foggy, but putting on the foglights doesn’t have any effect on my camera view. The conditions you describe sound like exactly those when a camera would be desirable, so I can’t see this being how it should be. If it’s any help, my camera certainly doesn’t go blank when another car is behind with headlights on. The “flare” from that must be loads worse.
I’d say this is definitely not a case of “They all do that sir”!
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Cheers Talk-torque. That's appreciated mate.
What year is yours?
Funnily enough the Dealer rang me half an hour ago & started asking about the Thinkware Dashcam I have hardwired.
I have a feeling that the next conversation I have with them will be along the lines that its the Dashcam that's causing the issue & they will just use that as an excuse to dip out of sorting it.
Thanks again.
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So you have the highline camera, (the one with the bendy lines) i myself would program it up like the lowline (vcds or obdeleven) and see if it comes on with fog,
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Thanks for replying Vwjap.
I have the camera that pops out the VW Badge, if that's the Highline one.
Sorry not sure what you mean by program it up, can you expand in idiots terms for me please?.
Thank you.
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Don't think they fit highline cameras from the factory on 7s or 7.5s.
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Don't think they fit highline cameras from the factory on 7s or 7.5s.
Mine has :whistle:
Do the lines bend when you turn the wheel to show where your doing to end up
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Yes. The guidelines bend when I turn the steering wheel to show where I'm going to be going. 👍
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My 17 plate GTI DSG does exactly the same thing and I think switching the rear fog off and back on again whilst the camera is engaged just fools it because my screen goes blank again after about 10 seconds.
VW dealer said it was normal but could not offer any explanation why it would be that way though :huh:
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Cheers Zan. That's really surprised me mate. So either we both have the same issue/problem or its looking like it is just the way it is eh.
Do you have a Dashcam hardwired in or anything?
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This is the first car I have had with a reversing camera so I just took what they said as that 's the way it is.
I can't fathom why though as you can see before the display goes blank again that the rear fog doesn't really add a significant glare.
I need to make a decision this year if I'm keeping the car and would need an MOT in August so I may enquire at the dealer again if i am, it may just be a strange quirk of the rear camera?
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What would a hard wired dash cam have to do with your year camera? I've had a hard wired dashcam in mine for three years with no issues on the rear camera.
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Don't think they fit highline cameras from the factory on 7s or 7.5s.
Mine has :whistle:
Do the lines bend when you turn the wheel to show where your doing to end up
unless they started putting them in on 7.5s?
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Mine doesn’t have bendy lines.
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Do the people with bendy lines have park assist?
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Maybe it's to remind the driver that the rear fog light is on unnecessarily? In thick fog when no one is following you, yes, all other times, no.
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I have the highline camera but it was fitted afterwards by the dealers as I have the invoice from the previous owner. I also have a Thinkware F770 front/rear fitted too (not that it should make any difference as it doesn’t interact or tap into the camera wiring) and I’ll try it too to see what happens.
I can’t see why it would shut off when the fog lights are on unless it’s to force the driver into using all mirrors and looking out the windows etc instead. Who knows what’s going on in their heads when coding this stuff.
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Hi guys.
Firstly thank you, your replies are really appreciated.
mcmaddy - I agree I cannot see any reason why my hardwired Thinkware Dashcam would have anything to do with the situation I'm experiencing but as they are asking questions about the Dashcam I am expecting them to use is as some kind of "get out" card. Not sure how I argue that with them if they do.
rajb - Thank you I would really appreciate what yours does in the same circumstances - what year/spec is yours?
Cheers everybody
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zan -
My 17 plate GTI DSG does exactly the same thing and I think switching the rear fog off and back on again whilst the camera is engaged just fools it because my screen goes blank again after about 10 seconds.
VW dealer said it was normal but could not offer any explanation why it would be that way though :huh:
Where you say "my screen goes blank again after about 10 seconds" mine does the same but the reason for that is the camera is closing back in!!
None of it seems right to me. :laugh: :laugh:
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Hi guys.
Firstly thank you, your replies are really appreciated.
mcmaddy - I agree I cannot see any reason why my hardwired Thinkware Dashcam would have anything to do with the situation I'm experiencing but as they are asking questions about the Dashcam I am expecting them to use is as some kind of "get out" card. Not sure how I argue that with them if they do.
rajb - Thank you I would really appreciate what yours does in the same circumstances - what year/spec is yours?
Cheers everybody
Well the argument for the dash cam is that it's hard wired for the positive/negative feed and nothing else. And you can always unplug it to show it still does the same thing.
Will check mine in a little while but mines a 2014 GTI PP.
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Cheers rajb
You're not wrong on the Dashcam set up, I think I will grab some pics of the hardwiring connections just in case I need them later anyway & as you say can always disconnect it to test out its still the same without it installed etc.
Yes please let me know how yours works later if you can mate.
Cheers for now
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Cheers rajb
You're not wrong on the Dashcam set up, I think I will grab some pics of the hardwiring connections just in case I need them later anyway & as you say can always disconnect it to test out its still the same without it installed etc.
Yes please let me know how yours works later if you can mate.
Cheers for now
It's the same. Switches off and asked my local dealer and they said the same as my thought process it's basically covering themselves/'safety' because if there is poor visibility they don't want reliance on the camera which means you hit something and you blame them. Where there's blame there's a claim lol
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rajb. Cheers for that mate appreciate you trying that & letting me know.
Interesting hearing that from the dealer though, kind of makes sense I guess the main thing is it's becoming apparent that it's a normal action rather than a fault.
Thanks again mate.
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rajb. Cheers for that mate appreciate you trying that & letting me know.
Interesting hearing that from the dealer though, kind of makes sense I guess the main thing is it's becoming apparent that it's a normal action rather than a fault.
Thanks again mate.
No worries at all. Does make sense though as generally if there's bad enough fog to warrant the lights then most likely the camera would be pretty useless anyway as the glare from the lights would reflect off the fog and so would make it more difficult for the camera. I know when there's been bad fog and the headlights do the same in essence and it does make it more difficult personally.
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rajb. Yes I'm starting to be convinced. Lol. My dealer has passed it on the VW Technical Team so it will be interesting to see what they come back with. I'll post it up when I hear.
Thanks again mate.
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rajb. Yes I'm starting to be convinced. Lol. My dealer has passed it on the VW Technical Team so it will be interesting to see what they come back with. I'll post it up when I hear.
Thanks again mate.
Cool hopefully the same response otherwise there's a few people who will be having talks LOL
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Don't think they fit highline cameras from the factory on 7s or 7.5s.
Mine has :whistle:
Do the lines bend when you turn the wheel to show where your doing to end up
Highline cameras are fitted to Golfs with Park Assist ticked as an option. If no PA then Lowline cameras are fitted.
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I have park assist and a high line
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Maybe it's to remind the driver that the rear fog light is on unnecessarily? In thick fog when no one is following you, yes, all other times, no.
I so agree - I wish they'd never invented rear foglights - they are needed about once every ten years when driving at 10mph trying to see the curb in thick fog. The rest of the time they just dazzle. I can't believe how stupid and unthinking some drivers are, leaving them on, especially in queues or streams of traffic.
There's no suggestion the OP is like this, it's just my pet hate.
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martin998877 - I hear what you're saying mate, I agree with you on people who drive around with fogs on all the time not necessary at all.
It's unfortunate that I'm one of those anal folk that if something is fitted on the car then I want it to work properly even if I only use the thing once a year! Crazy I know. 🤪😂