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Title: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: Peter_S on 11 October 2019, 13:32
mcmaddy, do you remember the posts in January 2019?

Where did you get your last alignment done?

Were you pleased with the service and results?

Peter_S
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: mcmaddy on 11 October 2019, 17:59
I ended up going to Richard Martin in Peterlee. Was only marginally out but car feels much better than pre adjustment. Btg in North Shields also have a full Hunter set up but the guy didn't seem too interested in doing mine for some reason 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: Peter_S on 12 October 2019, 14:58
mcmaddy, it's great to hear from you.

Peterlee is within easy striking distance of Darlington where I am so I'll give Richard Martin a try.

BTW are you able to tell us here what was the outcome of Revolution trashing the threads on your hubs?   Did they pay for the rectification work?

Peter_S
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: mcmaddy on 12 October 2019, 15:17
Ah that was on my old Tiguan. They just denied everything so I ended up getting the dealer to sort it. Apparently Revolution are going out of business.
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: o`Neil on 12 October 2019, 19:37
Apparently Revolution are going out of business.

That doesn`t surprise me  :huh:
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: Peter_S on 13 October 2019, 17:19
mcmaddy, that's interesting about Revolution. 
My eldest son had bad experience with them this year too.  I can't really post details here though.

I meant to ask you about Richard Martin, is there anyone there in particular I should specifically ask to do the job?

Peter_S
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: mcmaddy on 13 October 2019, 22:28
No one in particular. I just phoned and then when I turned up someone did it.
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: Peter_S on 14 October 2019, 08:32
mcmaddy, ok and thanks.    Peter_S
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: Peter_S on 18 October 2019, 08:46
Still deliberating about which independent to approach for the check.

Do you think they'd want to know if the car had Dynamic Chassis Control, which it has?

Would that make any difference to their alignment process?

Peter_S
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: mkviken on 18 October 2019, 11:43
Tyre spot in Durham next to the Renault garage are spot on

I’m fussy a hell with my cars and they were really good. I’m taking it there when it’s due it’s MOT as well
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: mcmaddy on 18 October 2019, 14:37
I told Richard Martin I had DCC and it doesn't make a blind bit of difference. I used to go to Tyre Spot at Houghton for my tyres until they damaged two of my alloys last year and then denied doing it. I was going to try Tyre Spot at Durham come tyre time but I'm dubious that they'll be any better. What made it worse was the machine they have is a touchless one yet they still managed to scratch two!
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: Snoopy on 18 October 2019, 23:07
For tyres. The only person except me I allow at my wheels and tyres is Peter Kerr from tyres2u as hes as picky as me and a true car enthusiast. https://www.mobile-tyres2u.co.uk/ . Had far too many bad experiences from other places.

Ive used both Tyr-ex Durham and Revolution once personally before without issue for full alignment on hunter machines.
As others said Revolution are no more.
Not sure who I would use if need be at the moment. I do my tracking at mates using his gear but full alignment im not sure who I would use now.
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: mcmaddy on 19 October 2019, 08:49
Richard Martin gets my vote 👍. Btg in North Shields looks a fantastic place but the guy just didn't seem interested in even checking it for me.
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: Peter_S on 19 October 2019, 15:28
mkviken, thanks that's really helpful.

Durham is only 24 miles from me and my son takes his Clio RS to the Renault garage so I know exactly where you mean.

As I asked mcfaddy earlier, is there anyone senior there you could reccommend I should ask to speak to/request to carry out the job?
Can you recall what alignment equipment they use?
Do you remember what their charges are?

Peter_S
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: Peter_S on 19 October 2019, 15:37
mkviken, I meant to ask - did/does your Clubsport S/GTI 7.5 230 have DCC ?

Peter_S
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: Peter_S on 19 October 2019, 15:43
mcmaddy, aaargh!!   Thanks for that feedback, noted.   

mkviken seems to have had a better experience at TyreSpot Durham doesn't he.

When you say "the machine they have is a touchless one" is that the one where they have four rigs (laser?) that rest on the top of each tyre?

I'll get in touch with Richard Martin soon I think.

Peter_S

I told Richard Martin I had DCC and it doesn't make a blind bit of difference. I used to go to Tyre Spot at Houghton for my tyres until they damaged two of my alloys last year and then denied doing it. I was going to try Tyre Spot at Durham come tyre time but I'm dubious that they'll be any better. What made it worse was the machine they have is a touchless one yet they still managed to scratch two!
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: Peter_S on 19 October 2019, 16:05
Snoopy, tyres2 u looks good, thanks.

I see one of his mobile services is "front wheel alignment" and he can travel to Darlington if required.

I've seen pit crews do that this year on BTCC cars at Croft.  So it can't be that bad (no expensive fancy laser static kit needed I mean).

My Express Visual Check at the local dealer earlier this month showed that my fronts were within manufacturers tolerance.  But I'm content for Peter Kerr to  try to improve on that.

The rears were slightly out apparently, they said.  That's just a single eccentric bolt adjustment isn't it? 
I'm sure Peter Kerr could have a go at that.

I don't suppose anyone knows where I can easily get the manufacturers alignment settings for my Mk 7 PP DCC 19" Santiagos (that's probably not relevant I realise).

Anyway, I'll keep tyres2u contact details handy for new tyres and repairs in the future.

Peter_S
BTW nice to see so many helpful GTI owners around Durham isn't it?


For tyres. The only person except me I allow at my wheels and tyres is Peter Kerr from tyres2u as hes as picky as me and a true car enthusiast. https://www.mobile-tyres2u.co.uk/ . Had far too many bad experiences from other places.

Ive used both Tyr-ex Durham and Revolution once personally before without issue for full alignment on hunter machines.
As others said Revolution are no more.
Not sure who I would use if need be at the moment. I do my tracking at mates using his gear but full alignment im not sure who I would use now.
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: Peter_S on 19 October 2019, 16:11
mcmaddy, that's good to know (Richard Martin).

I recall that you said earlier that Btg didn't seem interested - odd isn't it?   Their loss.  I'll give them a miss.

When I contact RM I can't say mcmaddy recommend you can I - they won't have a clue?   :smiley:
Would you mind PM-ing me your name (or the last three letters of your registration)? 
I really won't be offended it you're uncomfortable with that.

Peter_S

Richard Martin gets my vote 👍. Btg in North Shields looks a fantastic place but the guy just didn't seem interested in even checking it for me.
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: mkviken on 19 October 2019, 16:22
mkviken, I meant to ask - did/does your Clubsport S/GTI 7.5 230 have DCC ?

Peter_S

I was my Leon cupra that I took there and they used a hunter machine and they had the settings for DCC (which mine has)

Car was definitely better afterwards I’ll take my wife’s GTI in I think as I’ve just fitted 4 new tyres to each car


I got the tyres fitted by a mobile fitter - think it was we R tyres or something and he was excellent. Comes to your house or work
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: mkviken on 19 October 2019, 16:29
mkviken, thanks that's really helpful.

Durham is only 24 miles from me and my son takes his Clio RS to the Renault garage so I know exactly where you mean.

As I asked mcfaddy earlier, is there anyone senior there you could reccommend I should ask to speak to/request to carry out the job?
Can you recall what alignment equipment they use?
Do you remember what their charges are?

Peter_S

No sure what the bloke was called but he was spot on. I think it was about £100 or so but can’t remember to be honest but it was about the same as anywhere else for a hunter alignment and they did it without having to make an appointment
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: mcmaddy on 19 October 2019, 17:06
I paid £90 at Richard Martin and they've got the full daddy works Hunter Laser machine thing. The touchless I was talking about was a tyre removal machine at Tyre Spot when I got my tyres fitted and they managed to still scratch them. I'll definitely be using the mobile chap previously mentioned in this thread for next tyre fitting and not tyre spot, they just can't be trusted.
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: Peter_S on 20 October 2019, 14:41
mkviken, ok it was the Cupra with DCC, got it.  That's good that they knew what DCC is :-)

If you're going to trust them with your wife's car, you must really like them!   That's good enough for me.

I suppose " R tyres" might have been mobile-tyres2U that Snoopy used?

Anyway it doesn't matter, you, Snoopy and the others have given me confidence to give the mobile outfits a try.

Peter_S





mkviken, I meant to ask - did/does your Clubsport S/GTI 7.5 230 have DCC ?

Peter_S

I was my Leon cupra that I took there and they used a hunter machine and they had the settings for DCC (which mine has)

Car was definitely better afterwards I’ll take my wife’s GTI in I think as I’ve just fitted 4 new tyres to each car


I got the tyres fitted by a mobile fitter - think it was we R tyres or something and he was excellent. Comes to your house or work
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: Peter_S on 20 October 2019, 14:48
mkviken, that's great thanks.
The fact that they " ...did it without having to make an appointment" is important to me.
When I took the car in for its Express Visual Check the dealer quoted me £85, which at the time I thought was high.
Until now, I assumed that it was for the rears only as the fronts were ok.
I now realise that it might have been for all four.   
I'll check tomorrow and ask what equipment they use - I'd guess its Hunter because of the way they spell "tire".

Peter_S

mkviken, thanks that's really helpful.

Durham is only 24 miles from me and my son takes his Clio RS to the Renault garage so I know exactly where you mean.

As I asked mcfaddy earlier, is there anyone senior there you could reccommend I should ask to speak to/request to carry out the job?
Can you recall what alignment equipment they use?
Do you remember what their charges are?

Peter_S

No sure what the bloke was called but he was spot on. I think it was about £100 or so but can’t remember to be honest but it was about the same as anywhere else for a hunter alignment and they did it without having to make an appointment
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: Peter_S on 20 October 2019, 14:52
mcmaddy, thanks for sharing that costs information with us.  Always useful to know.

I suppose the Durham TyreSpot fitters might have moved on since you had yours done (and better more considerate ones replaced them, hopefully).  It is still a concern though, I totally agree.

Peter_S

I paid £90 at Richard Martin and they've got the full daddy works Hunter Laser machine thing. The touchless I was talking about was a tyre removal machine at Tyre Spot when I got my tyres fitted and they managed to still scratch them. I'll definitely be using the mobile chap previously mentioned in this thread for next tyre fitting and not tyre spot, they just can't be trusted.
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: Peter_S on 23 October 2019, 21:43
In the end I decided to take the car to a local VW dealer yesterday for the 4 wheel alignment (Hunter).

It was in fact £85 incl VAT for the alignment of the 4 wheels.

Thanks to everybody for their help and advice.

The steering wheel is very slightly off-centre to the right, which is annoying.

I've seen on another forum that says it's an easy diy fix. 
Apparently you need to screw the driver's side track rod out a bit and the other side track rod in a bit the same amount so it does not upset the wheel alignment until the wheel is straight.

Is it really as simple as that?

I'm taking it back to the dealer for them to fix and I'd like to be ready in case they say "that's tricky/costly to fix" or similar!

Peter_S
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: mcmaddy on 24 October 2019, 07:32
If the alignment has been done correctly you shouldn't have an offset steering wheel. If you start fiddling with track rods then it was pretty pointless paying them for a 4 wheel alignment. Out of interest which dealer did you go to?
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: Peter_S on 24 October 2019, 17:39
Let's see what their excuse is when I take it back next week.

I'll send you the dealer's name by PM if you don't mind.

Peter_S

If the alignment has been done correctly you shouldn't have an offset steering wheel. If you start fiddling with track rods then it was pretty pointless paying them for a 4 wheel alignment. Out of interest which dealer did you go to?
Title: Re: Wheel alignment in the North East
Post by: Peter_S on 31 October 2019, 18:29
Just to let everyone know, I went back to the dealer yesterday and they had another go at a Hunter alignment, including taking it for a 7 mile test drive.

It seems ok now, the steering wheel seems nicely centred and the printout is showing all greens.

Peter_S