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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: spiked71 on 26 August 2019, 19:23
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any members offering a sat nav update service, cos i be buggered if i can get it to work.
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Maybe post whereabouts you are
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bridgend south wales
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I gave up after 3 attempts , not into tech stuff 😪
I’m in Cheshire
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I gave up after 3 attempts , not into tech stuff 😪
I’m in Cheshire
not as simple as they make out is it, i can imagine vw charge the earth to do it too!
be good if there was a trust worthy member that would be willing to do them for a fee,
i would imagine they be a few takers.
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Are you using the download manager, or saving the new maps to your hard drive and then dragging and dropping the files onto the VW SD card?
I couldn't get the download manager to work, but dragging and dropping worked fine.
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i only got so far, and s... out of going all way just in case i ruined the sd card.
not the best with computers would rather pay someone to do it for me.
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If anybody is prepared to do this, and send out an SD card with the updates on that could just be slotted into the appropriate hole, I'd be interested as well
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My OH is away this weekend and is letting me borrow her laptop so I can try to update mine. If it goes badly I could be joining this list too... :rolleyes: :laugh:
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If anybody is prepared to do this, and send out an SD card with the updates on that could just be slotted into the appropriate hole, I'd be interested as well
I'm giving it a go soon. If I get it working, I can probably get some cards sent out. My initial estimate is that £10 would be fair, but I'd have to look at it.
I spend all day everyday on a computer, with a lot of working with removable disks - I'm an electronic engineer. I don't wish to sound big headed, but if I can't get this working, then I think VW need to rethink their update process!
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I had three failed attempts last week trying to use the Discover Care programme - certainly not the best tool in the world to use!
Resorted to doing it manually. Worked first time, and it was far quicker!
If you click on the VW link below, choose your car, choose the type of infotainment unit you have, and then scroll all the way down to the 'Support' section, there is a 'Download Manual (PDF)' link.
It is in German, however I found it translated pretty well using Google translate, and just followed it step by step.
https://webspecial.volkswagen.de/vwinfotainment/int/en/index/downloads/maps-download#/?car=eae8e75f-2cdf-455e-8f82-8aba0846573e&navi=f7d60bb5-e4c7-4f15-a629-ed994e464a9f (https://webspecial.volkswagen.de/vwinfotainment/int/en/index/downloads/maps-download#/?car=eae8e75f-2cdf-455e-8f82-8aba0846573e&navi=f7d60bb5-e4c7-4f15-a629-ed994e464a9f)
Hope that helps!
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If anybody is prepared to do this, and send out an SD card with the updates on that could just be slotted into the appropriate hole, I'd be interested as well
I'm giving it a go soon. If I get it working, I can probably get some cards sent out. My initial estimate is that £10 would be fair, but I'd have to look at it.
I spend all day everyday on a computer, with a lot of working with removable disks - I'm an electronic engineer. I don't wish to sound big headed, but if I can't get this working, then I think VW need to rethink their update process!
that sounds fair enough to me, put me down for 1 when you get it all together.
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£10!! If people cover the postage I'll do them for nothing! In fact why don't people just donate a few quid to the forum charity. Sorry SJW but I hate forum members being fleeced for something that's so simple to do. I've never had any issues what so ever updating any VW sat nav.
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£10!! If people cover the postage I'll do them for nothing! In fact why don't people just donate a few quid to the forum charity. Sorry SJW but I hate forum members being fleeced for something that's so simple to do. I've never had any issues what so ever updating any VW sat nav.
Well, I'm not going to be buying everyone SD cards. You have to cover the cost of the SD card, and postage, and my time.... you need at least a 16GB sd card, so thats 6-8 quid right there.... hardly a fleecing. A fleecing would be what VW charge. Look, if you're not happy and can upgrade yours, then great, but use your brain pal
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£10!! If people cover the postage I'll do them for nothing! In fact why don't people just donate a few quid to the forum charity. Sorry SJW but I hate forum members being fleeced for something that's so simple to do. I've never had any issues what so ever updating any VW sat nav.
Well, I'm not going to be buying everyone SD cards. You have to cover the cost of the SD card, and postage, and my time.... you need at least a 16GB sd card, so thats 6-8 quid right there.... hardly a fleecing. A fleecing would be what VW charge. Look, if you're not happy and can upgrade yours, then great, but use your brain pal
The nav data has to be on an oem supplied nav card to work in the system. Copying and then formatting the original card is a good part of the process and a leap of faith for a lot of people. Are you familiar with the process?
It’s really not that hard and a good number of people have been coached through it on here. 😊
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If you need the original card, then it hardly seems worth me doing. Like you say, it's not difficult. I appreciate that not everyone is super comfortable with computers, but with simple step-by-steps people should be able to follow along.
Look, I'm not trying to make any money out of this, and I didn't expect people to actually want me to do it. It's no skin off my nose if people want to do it, want me to do it, or don't want to bother updating. :smiley:
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£10 sounds like a good deal :smiley:
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Not sure you can clone the cards so would have to send the original, update and return.
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If it's not a nav pro then you need to update the original VW supplied sd card. Nav pro can use any card but it needs to be at least 32gb and preferably a high speed one. Apologies to sjw as I agree if supplying an SD card then a tenner would be a bargain.
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If it's not a nav pro then you need to update the original VW supplied sd card. Nav pro can use any card but it needs to be at least 32gb and preferably a high speed one. Apologies to sjw as I agree if supplying an SD card then a tenner would be a bargain.
Not a problem. Likewise, apologies for being so snappy. I just offered to do what I felt was a good deed for a reasonable price, and felt offended that I was being branded as a rip-off.
However, I kind of brought it on myself as I didn't realise (read: hadn't read) that you needed an original SD card. Didn't know SD cards had any kind of identifying information on them.
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They are supposedly tied to the chassis number of the car but how true that is I don't know. It's one of the many reasons why nav pro is better if you can justify the extra pennies.
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Probably can clone the card easy enough - it probably has a volume label or a hidden file and I doubt if either will be a serial number, just something to say its the nav data.
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I'm sure it's an encrypted file of some sort although some people were buying 2nd hand cards back when I had my Tiguan and they were working. A brand new card which is unused will work no problems.
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Probably can clone the card easy enough - it probably has a volume label or a hidden file and I doubt if either will be a serial number, just something to say its the nav data.
Time to make your fortune then as there's none on eBay :wink:
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Probably can clone the card easy enough - it probably has a volume label or a hidden file and I doubt if either will be a serial number, just something to say its the nav data.
Tried making a full, direct image of the entire card including all partitions and dropping it onto another card - no dice. I reckon the car is reading the CID of the SD card, so if you got a card such as a Samsung Evo from, like, 2013 which can have the CID written then you might be in business.
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You can NOT use any other card that the VW on. No if's no buts. It is as simple as that.
As for the update it is simple.
Download your maps from the above website.
While they are downloading go get the memory card out of the car.
Now create 2 new folders on your desktop, on named newmap one named oldmap.
When the maps have downloaded, move the zip file they are in to newmap folder on the desktop.
Using the tool of your choice (Winrar I use, there are many others free) unzip it into that folder. It may take a few minutes.
Insert memory card into reader (slide the "Lock" switch to unlock it) and copy everything from the card to the new folder named oldmap. That is your backup, just in case something goes wrong. Once it has copied from the card delete the files on the card or better Format it.
Now you can copy the files you extracted from the zip file onto the card. Once done remove card slide the lock tab back and insert in car. Turn ignition on and after around 30 seconds the new maps will appear on screen. Job done so you can now delete the 2 folders oldmap and newmap as you don't need them.
I have just updated my maps using the above method and always use that method. It really is easy to DIY with absolutely no cost.
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You can NOT use any other card that the VW on. No if's no buts. It is as simple as that.
As for the update it is simple.
Download your maps from the above website.
While they are downloading go get the memory card out of the car.
Now create 2 new folders on your desktop, on named newmap one named oldmap.
When the maps have downloaded, move the zip file they are in to newmap folder on the desktop.
Using the tool of your choice (Winrar I use, there are many others free) unzip it into that folder. It may take a few minutes.
Insert memory card into reader (slide the "Lock" switch to unlock it) and copy everything from the card to the new folder named oldmap. That is your backup, just in case something goes wrong. Once it has copied from the card delete the files on the card or better Format it.
Now you can copy the files you extracted from the zip file onto the card. Once done remove card slide the lock tab back and insert in car. Turn ignition on and after around 30 seconds the new maps will appear on screen. Job done so you can now delete the 2 folders oldmap and newmap as you don't need them.
I have just updated my maps using the above method and always use that method. It really is easy to DIY with absolutely no cost.
As you say, the instructions are very straight forward. Download and extract the zip file. Copy the old contents off the memory card. Copy the new contents on in place of them. Stick it back in the car.
During the stage of copying the old data from the card, you'll see the format in which the card is expecting the new data (it wants the whole of the maps folder, including the folder - don't just copy the contents)
I'm inclined to disagree about the "you can't use a different card, no ifs or buts", though. There are clearly some restrictions in place, but as a pedant I feel obliged to say that there is probably some workaround, even if it is very difficult, and that would mean that there are ifs and buts :wink:
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Did mine last night about an 90mins all done.
Straightforward enough with original SD card
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Probably can clone the card easy enough - it probably has a volume label or a hidden file and I doubt if either will be a serial number, just something to say its the nav data.
Tried making a full, direct image of the entire card including all partitions and dropping it onto another card - no dice. I reckon the car is reading the CID of the SD card, so if you got a card such as a Samsung Evo from, like, 2013 which can have the CID written then you might be in business.
Its this almost certainly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcIDAsU0plo
Obviously that is posted for technical interest value only and I don't condone copyright violation...
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If you buy a brand new unused card it will work but if you purchase a used card as Finglonga has said it won't work. Nav pro is totally different though.
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Looking at the Vw site the latest map updates are 6/17/19. I took delivery on the 10th june so guess I must have an old version, on the sd card case it just says Europa 1 (V9)
My question, is there much of a difference with the update, I'm guessing its not a visual view, but purely an update of new roads etc?
Would the dealer update or would they charge do you think. I have mine going in a few weeks to sort some niggles
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The dealer might update for free but it's a simple process really. Worth an ask though as long as it's free from the dealer, definitely don't pay for it.