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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: martin998877 on 23 August 2019, 08:27
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Hi
I wondered how many of you use premium fuel? I usually use supermarket unleaded, but every couple of months I do a full tank of Shell VPower unleaded, mainly for its cleaning and detergent properties - I don't feel any difference in driving it or MPG. With it's higher octane rating the engine will knock less so can have more advanced timing and more power, I guess is the theory. At £1.45 / l (compared to £1.22 / l at the cheapest supermarket) it would have to be quite a significant MPG gain to justify it.
What are your thoughts on the regular or occasional use of premium fuels?
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I used to use Tesco Unleaded (95 octane). on my old Civic Type-R's, (which I have owned a fair few from new), and within months of owning a new car you would notice a difference in the engine noise where it would become more tinny and raspy. Then when the Tesco momentum 99 octane came in to my local area I started using it and I noticed the engine was no longer becoming tinny or raspy over time, especially when i bought the next car which was also a new civic Type-R at the time with the same engine.
I have always used Tesco Momentum 99 on my Golfs (GTI PP and Golf R) as Tesco is my closest petrol station by miles. I have not noticed any change in the character of the performance or engine noise since driving the car off the forecourt as a new car, while using the super unlead fuel. I know some will say the best/true super unleaded will be BP or Shell fuel, but from personal experience I have had no trouble using the Tesco Momentum 99 super unleaded.
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I wouldn't go anywhere near supermarket fuel but I'm sure many nay sayers will be along soon to tell you it doesn't matter. I've always used shell v power or Tesco 99 if possible and VW Driver mag always used to advocate using the highest quality fuel. You've spent a lot of money on your car so why scrimp on the fuel that you use?
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Yes, premium car, premium fuel.
Your car will take time for the ECU to adapt to the better fuel, so, using only the occasional tank full, you will never see any benefits.
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I agree with McMaddy. You've likely spent premium money on a performance car so why fill it with lower grade fuel?
It was one of my considerations before purchasing my 7.5 back in February. I was coming out of a diesel Insignia (yes, I know but she was the workhorse I needed at the time). The Golf is cheaper to tax and insure, cost of fuel in comparison to Derv is pennies of difference, if at all. MPG is lower, yes, but high 30's and low 40's is a good compromise for something I can really push on and enjoy the driving dynamics of. Over all I'd consider I'm on a WIN!
I'm running BP ultimate and with their new rewards I can get "something" back as a small bonus also.
There's a reason the manufacturer recommends fuel type and I believe my engine is performing and benefiting from it.
All said and done it's down to personal choice.
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I ran a poll recently and I was amazed to see 20% of people using 95RON fuel, some using supermarket 95. :huh:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=284673
Each to their own (and the availability in their area), but it's only 99RON for me. Mine feels more responsive and sounds much angrier when it's running on Momentum versus V-Power, and of course it's 5-10p a litre cheaper than V-Power. But... with Momentum you lose the cleaning properties of the V-Power, so I do 3:1 fill ratios in favour of Momentum.
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The problem for some of us who live out in the sticks, is we don't have a lot of options near by, and the only options on many occasions will be the Supermarket Petrol Station or the... Supermarket Petrol Station. The nearest BP/Shell garage i can think of will be easily 15 miles away. I will agree don't touch the filth known as 95 octane unleaded at a Supermarket petrol station. Which is why I use the Momentum 99 at Tescos as it is the best of what I can get near by. If I were closer to a BP or Shell garage i suspect I would also use their premium super unleaded fuel as well. But for my circumstance I can only use the Momentum 99 if I want super unleaded.
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momentum for me with the occasional top up with v power, do begrudge the price of v power mind :shocked:
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I've got the shell + app and I always seem to get money off when I use it plus cheaper coffee 😄
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I've got the shell + app and I always seem to get money off when I use it plus cheaper coffee 😄
Me too mcmaddy, it's much better than the old card isn't it!
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I don't find the new Shell system good. I always fill up from nearly empty, so before I would get 50 points for 50 litres on each visit.
Now you only get a fixed point for spending at least a tenner. So the only way to get lots of points is to refuel virtually every day and put £10.50 in - not practical for me. So I find it worse, as I get the same points for 50l / £65 quid as i would for £10.50.
Unless I've misunderstood something on it?
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I don't find the new Shell system good. I always fill up from nearly empty, so before I would get 50 points for 50 litres on each visit.
Now you only get a fixed point for spending at least a tenner. So the only way to get lots of points is to refuel virtually every day and put £10.50 in - not practical for me. So I find it worse, as I get the same points for 50l / £65 quid as i would for £10.50.
Unless I've misunderstood something on it?
There just seems to be far more spot savings - over the last 6 fill ups, I have saved 4 times (£1.80 to £3 off each time). It used to seem like an age for the paper vouchers to arrive!
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The best I can get in Northern Ireland is 97 from the likes of BP. I always use this alongside an octane booster.
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I've got the shell + app and I always seem to get money off when I use it plus cheaper coffee 😄
how do you use the shell app?
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Spoke to one of the techs at VW and he said they're getting quite a few MK6's in from the owners using poor quality fuel. Like others have said, performance car - performance fuel.
Momentum 99 or Shell V-Power only for me.
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I've got the shell + app and I always seem to get money off when I use it plus cheaper coffee 😄
Me too mcmaddy, it's much better than the old card isn't it!
yes much better, at least the points credit straight away 👍
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I've got the shell + app and I always seem to get money off when I use it plus cheaper coffee 😄
how do you use the shell app?
you scan the QR code every time you fill up and once you reach ten you very money off. You also get money off treats before reaching ten or free coffees or sweets etc
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I don't find the new Shell system good. I always fill up from nearly empty, so before I would get 50 points for 50 litres on each visit.
Now you only get a fixed point for spending at least a tenner. So the only way to get lots of points is to refuel virtually every day and put £10.50 in - not practical for me. So I find it worse, as I get the same points for 50l / £65 quid as i would for £10.50.
Unless I've misunderstood something on it?
There just seems to be far more spot savings - over the last 6 fill ups, I have saved 4 times (£1.80 to £3 off each time). It used to seem like an age for the paper vouchers to arrive!
True, but have you also noticed that Shell have slowly been creeping the price of V-Power up to compensate since the new rewards system came in. It’s now £1.45 a litre in all my local Shell stations (versus £1.28 for normal Shell 95), where as Momentum is £1.32 a litre (versus £1.26 for normal 95).
So at £6.50 a tank extra for V-Power versus Momentum, they can afford to give more spot money away. At first I thought it was just general price rises, but the price of normal Shell 95 and diesel has generally stayed static.
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Always used Tesco 99 or V Power since new. Had to put a few tanks of 98 into her in France a few weeks back but I didn't notice any difference. I did have a car full of holiday gear though so performance wasn't at the top of my list, got great MPG though. :smiley:
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I've got the shell + app and I always seem to get money off when I use it plus cheaper coffee 😄
how do you use the shell app?
you scan the QR code every time you fill up and once you reach ten you very money off. You also get money off treats before reaching ten or free coffees or sweets etc
Bring back Tiger Tokens (Esso). I used to get tons of them always volunteering to fill the works van. I even managed to get a 14" colour tv with them (thousands of points required!).
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Remember them well Matt 👍👍. My dad was a driving instructor when I was younger and he always had a glovebox full of Esso tokens.
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I’ve always used Shell V Power up until recently.
The price has become too high and the new points system seems to be be encouraging multiple visits and buying coffee and other shop items which I don’t want. I would get another £3.00 for 300 litres for V Power over normal offers but that’s only a penny a litre.
The new reward system from Shell is quite disappointing but the app works well.
So I have used Tesco Momentum for the last few fill ups. My car seems to really like it and the mpg seems better, anyone else noticed this?
I’ll continue using V Power for a few fill ups here and there because I think the detergents used are probably better than Tesco Momentum but not at the current hiked prices for everyday use.
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To be honest I hadn't noticed the price increase until you all mentioned it haha! Momentum or Costco Premium it is then
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Used to alway used V power but now use Momentum 99. My local shell now charges 18p a litre more for V power than their standard 95! Only used to be 6-8 difference as little as 6 years ago.
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Must be a location thing but my preferred shell garage only changes v power by a penny up or down and the price hasn't dramatically increased. 🤷♂️
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I've got the shell + app and I always seem to get money off when I use it plus cheaper coffee 😄
how do you use the shell app?
you scan the QR code every time you fill up and once you reach ten you very money off. You also get money off treats before reaching ten or free coffees or sweets etc
i see, thanks for that mcmaddy, they have offered me a £2 off just for registering, least that will make up for the difference from the cheaper momentum i mostly buy, il give it a go next time i need fuel, which wont be long cos these cars do like a drink dont they.
. iv just come from a 2014 golf r, the clubsport does seem slightly better on fuel , but not a great deal of difference.
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I have now completed my 10th visit. Yes, I got the usual £2 for registering; then twice £1.40 discount and this month I got 8p discount per liter, which made for £3.62 on 45+ litres. Thus over 10 visits, buying 331 litres for £471.85 the total discount is £8.42. I would say it is disappointing and less than one would get with the previous rewards system...
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On the previous points I used to get maybe a £4 voucher per quarter which I had to wait nearly six months to receive. Obviously the voucher was dependant on how much fuel I bought but with the new app I've already had more money off than the most I've ever had on the previous quarter on the old points system. Much better for me.
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I have now completed my 10th visit. Yes, I got the usual £2 for registering; then twice £1.40 discount and this month I got 8p discount per liter, which made for £3.62 on 45+ litres. Thus over 10 visits, buying 331 litres for £471.85 the total discount is £8.42. I would say it is disappointing and less than one would get with the previous rewards system...
... and therein lies the problem with the current V-Power pricing.
With a tank (50 litres) of momentum circa £7 cheaper than a tank V-Power, the £8.42 'reward' from Shell after 6.62 fill-ups is nowhere near the £46.34 saved if you had filled up with Momentum in the first place.
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I just use Sainsbury’s standard stuff can’t say I’ve noticed it being different to anything else.
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I just use Sainsbury’s standard stuff can’t say I’ve noticed it being different to anything else.
have you tried anything else :grin:
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I have been using Tesco momentum for my sins however the car seems to like it .
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I just use Sainsbury’s standard stuff can’t say I’ve noticed it being different to anything else.
have you tried anything else :grin:
I have! Tried all the usual suspects but seem the same to me.
I have a diesel Octavia and a transit van notice a difference with them supermarket stuff slightly less mpg and maybe a bit noisier.