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Title: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 01 August 2019, 10:16
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Anyone beat it? I've had 51mpg before but this is my personal best.
Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: fredgroves on 01 August 2019, 11:29
In my GTD... easy to beat that without trying  :tongue:
Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: barrym381 on 01 August 2019, 12:19
If I was sad an gave a f**k that's easy to beat that without trying  :tongue:

Changed that for you  :grin:
Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: Sootchucker on 01 August 2019, 13:02
You beat my PB in the GTI of 52.2mpg (DSG)
Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: Brenbo on 01 August 2019, 14:56
Cannot remember last time I checked my MPG, but then I do drive a Golf R so whats the point. 
Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 01 August 2019, 15:46
Cannot remember last time I checked my MPG, but then I do drive a Golf R so whats the point.

Depends what you want from a car I suppose. I commute to work  in mine so MPG is relatively important to me. If I wasn't bothered about MPG I'd be flying around in a C63 or something loud and daft
Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 01 August 2019, 15:56
If you're not interested in a certain topic on a forum don't reply, it's that simple. Not interested in negative comments.


Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: kmpowell on 01 August 2019, 16:03
Cannot remember last time I checked my MPG, but then I do drive a Golf R so whats the point.
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Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: Brenbo on 01 August 2019, 18:22
Not meant to be harsh or uninterested.  Just meant that as I have a Golf R there was not much point in me worrying too much about the MPG as it will not be as good as a GTI or GTD.  MPG was not high on the list of criteria, when I bought the Golf R as I accepted it wouldn't be as good as other performance golfs.  It is not far off what I got in the GTI, but still not as good.  But it is lower and the reason i bought the Golf R was not because i was concerned about the MPG.  If I was concerned about MPG and wanted an all rounder I would have bought another GTI or even if I was really concerned I would have probably gone for a GTD. 
Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: Exonian on 01 August 2019, 18:46
Cannot remember last time I checked my MPG, but then I do drive a Golf R so whats the point.

Depends what you want from a car I suppose. I commute to work  in mine so MPG is relatively important to me. If I wasn't bothered about MPG I'd be flying around in a C63 or something loud and daft

I think Brenbo was making a point that the R isn’t great for economy and certainly wasn’t bought for economy in his case.
Like myself, he lives in the nether regions of the South West with roads that don’t really lend themselves to economy with hills and bends galore.

To me Golfs are about a blend of abilities and I do find economy quite important but as part of a balance between performance and driving dynamics too. The GTI engine’s forte is getting really good economy along with impressive performance, the R tips it a bit more the other way.
An R owner will generally accept the economy of that engine for what it is and not worry further about it.

Personally I do like to try and see what MPG I can achieve when I’m stuck on my local roads behind dawdling traffic, it gives me a target rather than getting stressed about lack of progress.
I then sit back and watch the ones that can’t handle being held up from their very important “places to be” who end up overtaking in stupid places only to be hitting the brakes almost right afterwards as they come up behind the next dawdling vehicle and its ensuing tailback.

Mind you, I try not to use the Ed40 for commuting anyway. I much prefer to use the family Diesel as it goes just as quickly on the crappy roads yet does 20mpg more.
I do often wonder why I bother keeping the Golf and should instead have something like an old C63 or a proper sports car for occasional use.
Trouble is the Golf GTI/R does 95% of what a sports car can do and still doubles up as a great looking and very useful family car. It just doesn’t have that 6 or 8 cylinder soundtrack...


EDIT: crossed with Brenbo who said pretty much the same thing!
Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: Brenbo on 01 August 2019, 18:56
Completely agree with Exonian, and what Exonian states is exactly what I meant.  I think its the water down here in the south west, makes us unintentionally harsh in the eyes of some others at times. Apologies to those who took it the wrong way as the post was not intended as it was interpreted by some of you guys.
Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 01 August 2019, 19:03
No worries, apologies accepted 👍

Exonion sums the golf up very well and it's the exact reason I bought one. It can do everything very well!

Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: Dr Mike Oxgreen on 01 August 2019, 20:45
When I had my Mk6 TDi Bluemotion I used to challenge myself to beat 100 by adding together the average speed and average mpg for a journey.  On one trip from Southampton to Hull and back (on the same day) I managed to average 50mph and 70mpg.  I started out with a full tank, and when I got home I had 100 miles worth of fuel left, according to the display.

No chance of that with the GTI, and I would need to stop for fuel on the return journey, but I don't cover as many miles now, and I prefer the GTI for everyday driving, as it's less compromised than the diesel, and just more fun to drive - for three years when I had the Mk6 it shared my parking area with a Honda S2000, which had Ohlins suspension and a few other tweaks.  Somebody made me an offer I couldn't refuse for it, and with the fallout from VW's spectacular own goal regarding the emissions scandal, diesels weren't likely to remain a viable option for private ownership from a depreciation viewpoint, so I took the opportunity to buy one car for all my needs/wants, which meant a fast Golf. 

In everyday use I can achieve somewhere around 37 - 42 mpg, helped by being surrounded by 40mph speed limits.  I keep flirting with the idea of a Golf R, but my practical, pragmatic side counters these moments of whimsy with the cold hard reality that an Up! would suit my needs better.  We buy the versions of otherwise sensible cars which have been moved further up the food chain by the addition of more powerful engines, harder suspension, better gearboxes and so on largely for reasons of ego and/or vanity, and/or the occasional adrenaline rush although as all cars are compromised, the faster versions are more compromised than their less exciting stablemates, yet are more desirable because of their ability to excite.

I'll continue to enjoy the compromise that is the Golf GTI.  It is a good trade-off between performance, practicality, and economy.  Everything is a compromise, it's just a question of finding which compromise works for you. 
Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: Splashalot on 02 August 2019, 02:35
Cannot remember last time I checked my MPG, but then I do drive a Golf R so whats the point.

It certainly is possible to enjoy your car's performance and at other times it's fuel efficiency.  I enjoy giving mine the beans, yet when the mood takes me eeking out the highest MPG I can.  To me, this is one of the GTI's major strengths.
Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: Brenbo on 02 August 2019, 08:38
I am not against people checking their MPG and trying to get the most out of it.  It's just MPG in my case is not a high priority.  Mainly due to where I live, the roads I drive and due to the short mileage I drive a majority of the time day to day it doesn't really feature as a thing I focus on when driving.  I am impressed the Golf R doesn't guzzle fuel more than it actually does (it's not far off the Golf GTI)  but I personally just get on with enjoying the short drive and choose not to worry how many extra miles I can get out of the fuel tank as at present due my own personal situation with the distances I travel and the car I drive I have no need to be concerned with the MPG of my car or the miles I drive. For example I can go without having to fill up the fuel tank for upto three weeks or more in the winter months as I no longer surf as much as I used to (due to spinal surgery) or work as far away as i used. 

However should I end up working further away from home in the future and end up filling up the tank more than once a week it may become more of a priority.  I would also probably question whether the Golf R was the best car for commuting.  But for now, in my current situation I am enjoying driving my Golf R and personally choose not to worry about MPG. 

Just because I am not fussed about checking the MPG of my Golf R it doesn't mean i drive like a lunatic or want to condemn others for checking their MPG.  I am the last person for having a pop at someone for doing something they want to do like checking MPG when i do not.  Everyone can do their own thing and all I was saying, was I don't check the MPG in my car, which i don't due to short trips/roads i drive, working close to home and MPG not being a high priority in my case at present), and I drive a Golf R so whats the point (was meant as, if I want to get decent MPG I would not have bought a Golf R, MPG is currently a low priority to me, which is why I bought the Golf R on this occasion, because if it was a higher priority then I might have got something else, also it was not bought as a vanity thing, I have always wanted to own a Golf R, and it was not because I wanted to buy a car to make myself look better, because believe me the car cannot perform miracles to make my fugly features look anywhere near good in that case)   
Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 02 August 2019, 10:02
Tried to beat yesterday's effort and got the exact same 😂
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The best thing is - I did the same milage back home after work and drove back in today and the range has only gone down 5 miles 😃
Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: Sootchucker on 02 August 2019, 11:26
What sort of journey - motorways, dual carriageways, town etc. ?
Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: mcmaddy on 02 August 2019, 13:03
Managed to get 475 miles from last tank which was a return trip to Liverpool, a visit to the dealer and a week back and forth to work. Indicated average of 44.5 which I think is rather good.
Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: Sootchucker on 02 August 2019, 13:50
I went to work in the Wife's little Polo Blue GT (1.4 Turbo'd 150ps DSG), yesterday as it was keyed all down one side some weeks ago and yesterday the guy I know, who I trusted to do the repair came to our business and did it in the car park under a makeshift "tent" spray booth (fantastic job BTW considering it was a full one side respray and blend... but I digress).

On taking Mel home (that's what she call's it), I was taking it easy (so just 60-65ish MPH) as I didn't want to pick up any stone chips etc as the paint would still be soft, I was amazed when I go home to see the MPG it did. 62.7mpg for a 16 mile journey (11 miles motorway and 5 miles standard town roads / traffic lights etc), and that was including the usual 15 min crawl from work to the motorway (just 0.5miles away).

That's from a car that can still do 0-60 in 7.6 seconds and 140+ mph - pretty incredible what these modern cars are capable of really.
Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: itavaltalainen on 02 August 2019, 15:40
Challenge accepted....

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Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 02 August 2019, 15:49
Challenge accepted....

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We have a winner! Is that in a GTi?
Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: itavaltalainen on 02 August 2019, 15:49
Nah! That was my old GTD, DSG though.
Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: Exonian on 02 August 2019, 16:13

That's from a car that can still do 0-60 in 7.6 seconds and 140+ mph - pretty incredible what these modern cars are capable of really.

Good to hear the Polo has been restored back to former glory  :smiley:

After reading Brenbo’s post from today it got me pondering whilst cutting the grass this afternoon that as you say there, it’s amazing what these modern cars can do.

Brenbo’s post reminded me of why I still tend to drive with average fuel consumption on the MFD much of the time if I’m just ambling around. It’s a habit instilled in my younger life driving mk1 and mk2 GTIs when the MFD (or MFI back then) was a novelty for that class of car which was gestated during the 70’s fuel crisis.
It was a curiosity back then to flick through watching the oil get up to temp (the oil temps the modern GTIs run at would have instilled panic back then!) and see the sometimes wildly optimistic fuel consumption from the journey.
Old habits die hard.

But as Sootchucker says, these modern cars are amazing on fuel for their performance.
My old mk2 GTIs with just 112bhp in a lightish shell would average low to mid thirties running four star in mixed driving, and the VR6’s I had (which were very well run in second hand examples as there was no way I could have afforded a new one back then) with 174bhp(?) never got near 30mpg unless on a deliberate economy run.
So Mrs N’s Polo 150 TSI above has half the cubic capacity, a very similar 0-60 time to the 2.8 litre mk3 Golf and double the fuel economy yet weighs more I expect!

300PS 4WD Golfs were the stuff dreams were made of back then, the best we could do was hope to one day afford a ur-quattro...
Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 05 August 2019, 11:22

That's from a car that can still do 0-60 in 7.6 seconds and 140+ mph - pretty incredible what these modern cars are capable of really.




But as Sootchucker says, these modern cars are amazing on fuel for their performance.
My old mk2 GTIs with just 112bhp in a lightish shell would average low to mid thirties running four star in mixed driving, and the VR6’s I had (which were very well run in second hand examples as there was no way I could have afforded a new one back then) with 174bhp(?) never got near 30mpg unless on a deliberate economy run.
So Mrs N’s Polo 150 TSI above has half the cubic capacity, a very similar 0-60 time to the 2.8 litre mk3 Golf and double the fuel economy yet weighs more I expect!

300PS 4WD Golfs were the stuff dreams were made of back then, the best we could do was hope to one day afford a ur-quattro...

My mate had a '97 VR6 back in the day which he got when it was about a year or so old, I can remember going with him to collect it - what a car back then, facelift 3dr manual in Dragon green with optional Recaro seats and climatronic. He swapped it after a few years for a Mk4 4 Motion which was pretty disappointing sound wise and not as fun to drive.
Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: Exonian on 05 August 2019, 12:07


My mate had a '97 VR6 back in the day which he got when it was about a year or so old, I can remember going with him to collect it - what a car back then, facelift 3dr manual in Dragon green with optional Recaro seats and climatronic. He swapped it after a few years for a Mk4 4 Motion which was pretty disappointing sound wise and not as fun to drive.

Ahh, my second VR6 was a Dragon Green facelift. Though mine was just standard spec and had done loads of miles when I got it. I was covering minimal mileage at the time so it made sense to buy a highish mileage car, clean it back up to make it look new again, perform a few mods to keep me entertained then sell it when another project came along.
This Dragon VR6 was by far the highest mileage one I’d ever bought though!
It was bought off Andrew from Volkswizard and was very tidy but he’d had trouble shifting it on so was quite cheap.

After a while I went try a mk4 V6 4Mo and came away very disappointed. It totally lacked any character despite promising an awful lot on paper. Fast but sterile and had to be really wound up to make it go fast.
I ended up buying a 2001 Leon Cupra 1.8T instead (picked up a mint 2 year old one in Imperial Blue) which was a far better drivers car than VW GTI’s etc of that time and supplemented it with a mk2 Golf GTI 16v.

My first VR6 was an early one in Windsor Blue with the hideous blue interiors of the time! I never really gelled with that car for some reason but it carried a lot of kudos in its day. I much preferred the Polo G40 I had prior to that which was huge fun.
The first VR6 got sold when I had a massive increase in mileage when my grandmother was terminally ill and I had regular 240 mile round trips, so that led on to my first foray into TDI tuning which was a new thing back in 1998!
The TDI was replaced by a mk2 Golf GTI 8V when my mileage dropped to bugger all again and that led to on the Dragon Green VR6 when I managed to contract glandular fever which put me out of action for ages and was unable to manage the heavy non assisted steering on the mk2 GTI.

Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 05 August 2019, 12:55


My mate had a '97 VR6 back in the day which he got when it was about a year or so old, I can remember going with him to collect it - what a car back then, facelift 3dr manual in Dragon green with optional Recaro seats and climatronic. He swapped it after a few years for a Mk4 4 Motion which was pretty disappointing sound wise and not as fun to drive.

Ahh, my second VR6 was a Dragon Green facelift. Though mine was just standard spec and had done loads of miles when I got it. I was covering minimal mileage at the time so it made sense to buy a highish mileage car, clean it back up to make it look new again, perform a few mods to keep me entertained then sell it when another project came along.
This Dragon VR6 was by far the highest mileage one I’d ever bought though!
It was bought off Andrew from Volkswizard and was very tidy but he’d had trouble shifting it on so was quite cheap.

After a while I went try a mk4 V6 4Mo and came away very disappointed. It totally lacked any character despite promising an awful lot on paper. Fast but sterile and had to be really wound up to make it go fast.
I ended up buying a 2001 Leon Cupra 1.8T instead (picked up a mint 2 year old one in Imperial Blue) which was a far better drivers car than VW GTI’s etc of that time and supplemented it with a mk2 Golf GTI 16v.

My first VR6 was an early one in Windsor Blue with the hideous blue interiors of the time! I never really gelled with that car for some reason but it carried a lot of kudos in its day. I much preferred the Polo G40 I had prior to that which was huge fun.
The first VR6 got sold when I had a massive increase in mileage when my grandmother was terminally ill and I had regular 240 mile round trips, so that led on to my first foray into TDI tuning which was a new thing back in 1998!
The TDI was replaced by a mk2 Golf GTI 8V when my mileage dropped to bugger all again and that led to on the Dragon Green VR6 when I managed to contract glandular fever which put me out of action for ages and was unable to manage the heavy non assisted steering on the mk2 GTI.

A fair old history you have! VR6 sounded so good, my mate fitted an induction kit to his and the noise was unbelievable. Always wanted a G40 Polo, my first car was a J Reg Polo Coupe, unfortunately in a horrible green with a 1.0 engine and less than 50bhp! Adding some15" Corrado wheels didn't help the acceleration  :grin:
Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: jv on 05 August 2019, 13:12
Exon is such a VW fanboy! Great history  :cool:
No pictures included though  :whistle:
Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: Exonian on 05 August 2019, 15:50


A fair old history you have! VR6 sounded so good, my mate fitted an induction kit to his and the noise was unbelievable. Always wanted a G40 Polo, my first car was a J Reg Polo Coupe, unfortunately in a horrible green with a 1.0 engine and less than 50bhp! Adding some15" Corrado wheels didn't help the acceleration  :grin:

That barely scratches the surface of my car history!

What size tyres did you run to squeeze 15” wheels on a Polo of that generation?  :grin:

I had Calypso Green Polo GT of the same age which I ran as a second car for years. I bought it off a mate for £600, his wife had owned it from new. No mods on that car though.
Ok, I put a Momo steering wheel in it but other than that...

Exon is such a VW fanboy! Great history  :cool:
No pictures included though  :whistle:

My car history could have a forum of its own!

Pics? Nah, I learnt from the best!  :tongue:  :grin:

Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: king monkey on 05 August 2019, 16:01
I’ll throw my mpg hat into the ring. Nothing like yours. Drive from Manchester to Suffolk. Car was packed to the rafters too so very pleased. 500 mile range too!

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Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: Exonian on 05 August 2019, 16:19
I’ll throw my mpg hat into the ring. Nothing like yours. Drive from Manchester to Suffolk. Car was packed to the rafters too so very pleased. 500 mile range too!

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Some of those random ad links after postimage photos don’t half make me smile.

Good effort on the MPG btw, not bad in an R
Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: king monkey on 05 August 2019, 16:23
I’ll throw my mpg hat into the ring. Nothing like yours. Drive from Manchester to Suffolk. Car was packed to the rafters too so very pleased. 500 mile range too!

(https://i.postimg.cc/htSW70GM/8-B79-D7-C9-76-ED-4-A7-F-B468-00328-D8162-EC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Cz663kkf)forensic osteology jobs (https://forensicanthropologist.net/career)

Some of those random ad links after postimage photos don’t half make me smile.

Good effort on the MPG btw, not bad in an R

Yeah! Every time I post I always think is there a way of stopping this? Bizarre.
Title: Re: New PB, but is at a WR???
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 05 August 2019, 16:58


A fair old history you have! VR6 sounded so good, my mate fitted an induction kit to his and the noise was unbelievable. Always wanted a G40 Polo, my first car was a J Reg Polo Coupe, unfortunately in a horrible green with a 1.0 engine and less than 50bhp! Adding some15" Corrado wheels didn't help the acceleration  :grin:

That barely scratches the surface of my car history!

What size tyres did you run to squeeze 15” wheels on a Polo of that generation?  :grin:

I had Calypso Green Polo GT of the same age which I ran as a second car for years. I bought it off a mate for £600, his wife had owned it from new. No mods on that car though.
Ok, I put a Momo steering wheel in it but other than that...

Exon is such a VW fanboy! Great history  :cool:
No pictures included though  :whistle:

My car history could have a forum of its own!

Pics? Nah, I learnt from the best!  :tongue:  :grin:

Haha too much history! Sounds like you need to bring a book out!

I ran 195/50's to start with and had a load of rubbing, got the arches rolled and still had issues. Bit the bullet (I was 18/19 and didn't have loads of cash!) and got some 195/45's and this solves all the problems! Really liked the Coupe shape and would have loved a GT or G40.