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Title: 46 MPG.
Post by: rwleigh on 30 May 2019, 19:07
I went out for a gentle drive this afternoon, just goes to show what these cars can get from a gallon if you're careful!  :smiley:

(https://i.postimg.cc/B6ctwMBk/46.jpg)
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Watts on 30 May 2019, 19:24
I went out for a gentle drive this afternoon, just goes to show what these cars can get from a gallon if you're careful!  :smiley:

Good effort! But how bored were you? :laugh:
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: rwleigh on 30 May 2019, 19:53
Good effort! But how bored were you? :laugh:

Never bored inside the Clubsport, it's a nice place to be even driving steadily.

Still turns heads too after over two years of ownership I still get a lot of attention when out in it.
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 30 May 2019, 22:17
I never really was bothered when launched but must say they really stand out on the road compared to normal GTi’s!
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Mutley75 on 31 May 2019, 08:43
I frequently get 43/44 mpg on my daily commute. Single track A road with zero passing opportunities and the single largest concentration of ditherers and fossilised drivers on earth. You have to go out driving after 10pm or on Christmas Day to have any fun (or even just get from A to B at an acceptable pace) these days.
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: dubber36 on 31 May 2019, 09:11
How can you stand having your power/volume button not straight?
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Mutley75 on 31 May 2019, 09:16
That bugs me too. I always use the steering wheel control for that reason  :grin:
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: andy28 on 31 May 2019, 09:26
That's crazy! Yours is mapped right rwleigh!!?
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Post by: 2007GTI on 31 May 2019, 09:56
all the power / volume buttons turn like this don't they, mine does?
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: rwleigh on 31 May 2019, 10:17
That's crazy! Yours is mapped right rwleigh!!?

Yes Andy, REVO stage 1.
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: rwleigh on 31 May 2019, 10:19
How can you stand having your power/volume button not straight?

Do you suffer from OCD by any chance?  :grin:

Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: dubber36 on 31 May 2019, 11:31
How can you stand having your power/volume button not straight?

Do you suffer from OCD by any chance?  :grin:

Not as mad as most, but I think you'll find many on here that will agree with be on the subject of the radio button.
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: SRGTD on 31 May 2019, 12:08
How can you stand having your power/volume button not straight?

Do you suffer from OCD by any chance?  :grin:

Not as mad as most, but I think you'll find many on here that will agree with be on the subject of the radio button.

Totally agree dubber36. This discussion thread is in danger of becoming an infotainment on / off button thread! :grin:
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Watts on 31 May 2019, 12:56
How can you stand having your power/volume button not straight?

Do you suffer from OCD by any chance?  :grin:

Not as mad as most, but I think you'll find many on here that will agree with be on the subject of the radio button.

Totally agree dubber36. This discussion thread is in danger of becoming an infotainment on / off button thread! :grin:

I don't like it either :whistle: Even my OH won't dare adjust the volume in the car!
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Exonian on 31 May 2019, 14:32
I’ve never managed to get over 40mpg on a trip in my Ed40 CS driving as carefully as I can. But the roads where I am are all hills and bends which isn’t great for fuel mileage.
I had a mk6 GTI around ten years ago that was REVO stg1 which was better on fuel than when standard.

I have to agree rwleigh, the CS is a great place to be even when driving slowly. The car definitely has a feel about it. And lots of positive comments from passers by. I’ve never had a car for two years before (aside from old runabouts kept for the unpleasant jobs) simply because I like to try new cars and enhancing them a bit. Yet the CS I’ve had over two years now and still absolutely nothing has turned my head to make me even consider swapping it out.

But don’t get me started on volume knobs! NOBODY is allowed to touch the volume knob. Steering wheel buttons only!! I bet the only knob in the whole mk8 cabin will be the volume button, just to drive us all nuts  :grin:
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 31 May 2019, 14:58
I’ve never managed to get over 40mpg on a trip in my Ed40 CS driving as carefully as I can. But the roads where I am are all hills and bends which isn’t great for fuel mileage.
I had a mk6 GTI around ten years ago that was REVO stg1 which was better on fuel than when standard.

I have to agree rwleigh, the CS is a great place to be even when driving slowly. The car definitely has a feel about it. And lots of positive comments from passers by. I’ve never had a car for two years before (aside from old runabouts kept for the unpleasant jobs) simply because I like to try new cars and enhancing them a bit. Yet the CS I’ve had over two years now and still absolutely nothing has turned my head to make me even consider swapping it out.

But don’t get me started on volume knobs! NOBODY is allowed to touch the volume knob. Steering wheel buttons only!! I bet the only knob in the whole mk8 cabin will be the volume button, just to drive us all nuts  :grin:

Sounds like you (and some others!) need the badgeskins power button cover!!

https://www.badgeskins.com/store/p63/MK7_-_Headunit_power_button_blackout_set.html
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Watts on 31 May 2019, 15:13
Sounds like you (and some others!) need the badgeskins power button cover!!

https://www.badgeskins.com/store/p63/MK7_-_Headunit_power_button_blackout_set.html

But then how do you know it's the right way up? :laugh:
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: WD-40 on 31 May 2019, 16:34
I can honestly say I don't think I've ever seen more than 33/34 in my CS (in 2 years and 20,000 miles)! Even on fairly steady runs. I think 30 is my long term average, I have no idea how people get 40+ out of theirs...
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: rwleigh on 31 May 2019, 18:35
I can honestly say I don't think I've ever seen more than 33/34 in my CS (in 2 years and 20,000 miles)! Even on fairly steady runs. I think 30 is my long term average, I have no idea how people get 40+ out of theirs...

It has to be improved efficiency from the remap, I've just been to the supermarket and back just doing normal driving and not even trying to be super economical and it returned 41...

Hope you all appreciate the power button position!  :grin:

(https://i.postimg.cc/vTrRvnYY/41.jpg)
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Will2018 on 01 June 2019, 00:11
These MPG threads always go the same way. Modern turbo engines can have a very wide average mpg window. Yes they can be incredibly efficient but this depends highly on driving style/ terrain etc.

If you live somewhere flat these engines can do 40 mpg + all day long ( on medium/ long journeys) if driven gently on the turbo torque. It's very hilly round here so even gentle driving will quickly bring the mpg down into the 30's.

Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: dubber36 on 01 June 2019, 07:35
I can honestly say I don't think I've ever seen more than 33/34 in my CS (in 2 years and 20,000 miles)! Even on fairly steady runs. I think 30 is my long term average, I have no idea how people get 40+ out of theirs...

Deliberate economy driving. Pulse and glide and all that. I got 36mpg out of a Mk4 R32 on a 30 odd mile round trip years back. If I try, I can get low 40's from my Amarok, which normally averages low 30's.

The thing is, saving 10mpg on the odd short journey is going to save bugger all money, so why bother? Better to concentrate on making sure your knob is pointing upright.
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: rwleigh on 01 June 2019, 11:03
Better to concentrate on making sure your knob is pointing upright.

I shall endeavour to keep my knob pointing upright whenever possible from now on!  :smiley:
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Mutley75 on 03 June 2019, 22:12
I clocked 47.5 mpg commuting this morning. It wasn’t fun, but even if I was Lewis Hamilton behind the wheel of a Veyron, I still wouldn’t have been able to get to work any quicker given the traffic so on that basis it’s quite satisfying getting decent economy. Of course, when the roads are empty I’ll drive like I’ve sat on a hornets nest and probably average 32 on the same road  :laugh:
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: andy28 on 03 June 2019, 22:27

As a result, I ordered a 7.5 R immediately...

 :grin:
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: kmpowell on 15 June 2019, 18:32
I do this long journey at least 4 times a month, and as the engine has been loosening up as I’ve put the miles on (just turned 4k) the MPG has got better with each journey.

It’s a combination of motorways and A roads, in ‘comfort’ on the DCC/drive, and using the ACC.  This morning I saw this at the other end...

(https://i.postimg.cc/x1677nhM/7-D6-C012-C-F110-4-D21-B2-B4-3149-F2-D47-AD0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zyR0HZJG)
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 15 June 2019, 19:34
I do this long journey at least 4 times a month, and as the engine has been loosening up as I’ve put the miles on (just turned 4k) the MPG has got better with each journey.

It’s a combination of motorways and A roads, in ‘comfort’ on the DCC/drive, and using the ACC.  This morning I saw this at the other end...

(https://i.postimg.cc/x1677nhM/7-D6-C012-C-F110-4-D21-B2-B4-3149-F2-D47-AD0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zyR0HZJG)

That's a good effort. Nice Parkers as well  :smiley:
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Yusee on 15 June 2019, 20:35
I do this long journey at least 4 times a month, and as the engine has been loosening up as I’ve put the miles on (just turned 4k) the MPG has got better with each journey.

It’s a combination of motorways and A roads, in ‘comfort’ on the DCC/drive, and using the ACC.  This morning I saw this at the other end...

(https://i.postimg.cc/x1677nhM/7-D6-C012-C-F110-4-D21-B2-B4-3149-F2-D47-AD0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zyR0HZJG)

I’ve done just over 4k. Haven’t noticed an improvement in economy but the car feels noticeably quicker. Engine is nice and loose and the car feels lighter.
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: rwleigh on 15 June 2019, 23:41
I do this long journey at least 4 times a month, and as the engine has been loosening up as I’ve put the miles on (just turned 4k) the MPG has got better with each journey.
It’s a combination of motorways and A roads, in ‘comfort’ on the DCC/drive, and using the ACC.  This morning I saw this at the other end...

That is pretty impressive for a GTI, who needs a diesel!  :smiley:
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: dubber36 on 16 June 2019, 06:38
Has anyone ever had reason to test their mpg driving super slowly? I did in the truck last weekend as I was driving rear gunner for a cycle road race. 50 miles on an undulating rural circuit at an average of 22mph saw 42mpg. I expected it to be poor as I thought you need a certain degree of speed otherwise the you were using fuel for a much longer period of time, as opposed to using fuel efficiently for a shorter time. It seems that trundling along at little more than tickover is the way to save the most fuel. I guess that's why the flat caps in their Honda Jazz's do that all the time.
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Mutley75 on 16 June 2019, 07:17
The most effective way to save fuel is:

- Don’t floor the throttle, use light presses.
- Anticipate the road ahead to avoid heavy braking - where possible just lift off and coast, only using the brake to come to a full stop.
- When cruising ease off the throttle a little - you can do this without losing momentum or speed.
- Try and drive at a constant speed and close enough to the car in front that other cars can’t pull out of junctions in front of you causing you to slow down and build momentum again.
- Lift off the throttle when coasting down hill. Just dab the throttle occasionally to keep momentum.

If you have the active dials set to show Efficiency and Range, the dial on the left showing MPG has a red bar going around the dial. This shows how efficiently you’re driving. Similar to the Think Blue function.

Of course driving like this kind of defeats the purpose of owning a GTI but if you’re stuck on a single carriage A road with zero chance of over-taking then you may as well save some fuel and play the MPG challenge to relieve the boredom!


Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Exonian on 16 June 2019, 12:42
The most effective way to save fuel is:

- Don’t floor the throttle, use light presses.
- Anticipate the road ahead to avoid heavy braking - where possible just lift off and coast, only using the brake to come to a full stop.
- When cruising ease off the throttle a little - you can do this without losing momentum or speed.
- Try and drive at a constant speed and close enough to the car in front that other cars can’t pull out of junctions in front of you causing you to slow down and build momentum again.
- Lift off the throttle when coasting down hill. Just dab the throttle occasionally to keep momentum.

If you have the active dials set to show Efficiency and Range, the dial on the left showing MPG has a red bar going around the dial. This shows how efficiently you’re driving. Similar to the Think Blue function.

Of course driving like this kind of defeats the purpose of owning a GTI but if you’re stuck on a single carriage A road with zero chance of over-taking then you may as well save some fuel and play the MPG challenge to relieve the boredom!

All really good points.  :smiley:

I’ve taken somewhat of a back seat now but was involved for a while with professional (commercial) driver training and I work alongside programs that monitor commercial driver performance. I’m not a big fan of the latter spy in the cab software by any means but it’s here to stay and on the increase in many stealthy ways. Just wait until we are all in mk8’s and VW is watching everything we do...

One thing that will probably be familiar to advanced drivers is setting yourself a challenge to not come to a complete stop (aside from junctions where it’s impossible or illegal not to!) including traffic lights, plus attempting to use the brakes as little as possible to maintain momentum.
The latter I’m very good at as I spent much of my young driving life with VW’s that had intricate BBS wheels that had to be cleaned with a toothbrush. If that doesn’t make you hate cleaning wheels and keep brake dust to a minimum then nothing will! 

As in Mutleys post above, driving is all about anticipation which has the side benefit of being lighter on the wallet!
I know there are those that decry driving performance Golfs and focusing on fuel economy but at the end of the day these are Golfs and therefore should have a decent blend of abilities for everyday use.
Those that don’t care obviously either don’t pay for their own fuel or have stratospheric household salaries. Plus there’s the aspect of resources and future generations. Blah blah blah, yawn. 
Golf GTI’s are remarkably good on fuel owing to light(ish) weight coupled with an immensely flexible and tractable engine. It’s easy to waft along on the torque feathering the throttle and still maintaining quite quick progress in comfort with a fantastic chassis that is hard to upset.
As Mutley said, when it’s not possible to be racing around due to the roads and/or conditions it’s good to set other challenges to alleviate the boredom and keep concentration levels high.

Christ that was a boring post. I can’t believe I just wrote that.
I now feel the desire to hit the tarmac using overboost at every opportunity to get it out of my system!
Except it’s a Sunday in the West Country and the roads will be clogged with the predictable hordes... I’ll stay home instead.   
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: sjw on 17 June 2019, 09:20
With my short journeys, depending on traffic, I normally get about 18-26mpg.

However, a 70-mile-ish journey yesterday saw an average of over 40mpg, I was very proud of my little car when I got out!

(https://i.imgur.com/qxvADnH.jpg)
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: DTX3 on 17 June 2019, 10:48

If you have the active dials set to show Efficiency and Range, the dial on the left showing MPG has a red bar going around the dial. This shows how efficiently you’re driving. Similar to the Think Blue function.


Always wondered what that red bar was going up and down. Now I know!
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Mutley75 on 01 July 2019, 18:59
Pretty good going! Any advances on 48.8?
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Watts on 01 July 2019, 19:20
It was a year or two ago but..

(https://i.postimg.cc/g2wHbRxB/IMG-4323.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fVN9xVjx)
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Mutley75 on 01 July 2019, 19:22
I’m equally impressed you managed to drive the best part of an hour and average 50mph.  Midnight on an empty motorway, with a gentle downhill gradient?  :huh:
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Watts on 01 July 2019, 19:27
I’m equally impressed you managed to drive the best part of an hour and average 50mph.  Midnight on an empty motorway, with a gentle downhill gradient?  :huh:

50 limit on the M6 for miles.... Journey started only a few minutes from the entry junction and ended similarily. The roadworks were nearly the whole way :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Sootchucker on 02 July 2019, 08:34
Slightly off topic, but I was just wondering if the new 7 speed DSG box fitted to the Performance package MK7.5 cars is more efficient (with regards to MPG) than the older 6 speed DSG ?

At 70 mph my non PP 2018 GTI (6 speed DSG) runs at exactly 2000 rpm, is the 7 speed longer in 7th gear ?

Best I've ever had out of mine is as below (shortly after I got it), - must have been running it in ?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/1794/43221953554_ef6f0db300_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28RnNXL)
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 02 July 2019, 08:43
Slightly off topic, but I was just wondering if the new 7 speed DSG box fitted to the Performance package MK7.5 cars is more efficient (with regards to MPG) than the older 6 speed DSG ?

At 70 mph my non PP 2018 GTI (6 speed DSG) runs at exactly 2000 rpm, is the 7 speed longer in 7th gear ?

Best I've ever had out of mine is as below (shortly after I got it), - must have been running it in ?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/1794/43221953554_ef6f0db300_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28RnNXL)

Try living and commuting around a city with 7 hills - 20-25 mpg. 7 speed makes bugger all difference around town.
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: CB on 05 July 2019, 10:17
52.3 MPG. 

160 miles on M6/42/40/25/4. 

Average speed 56mph due to roadworks / traffic. 

3 month old GTI.

MPG is getting better as the engine has run in, currently 3k.
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: monkeyhanger on 05 July 2019, 10:52
52.3 MPG. 

160 miles on M6/42/40/25/4. 

Average speed 56mph due to roadworks / traffic. 

3 month old GTI.

MPG is getting better as the engine has run in, currently 3k.

Some that "getting better" is down to the weather getting better - it will drop off again in Autumn /Wnter.
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: kmpowell on 05 July 2019, 11:05
52.3 MPG. 

160 miles on M6/42/40/25/4. 

Average speed 56mph due to roadworks / traffic. 

3 month old GTI.

MPG is getting better as the engine has run in, currently 3k.

Some that "getting better" is down to the weather getting better - it will drop off again in Autumn /Wnter.
Forced induction petrol cars perform more efficiently in colder weather. Warm air/temps are a hindrance.

It's the complete opposite to diesel which performs more efficiently in the summer months and struggle in winter.
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: monkeyhanger on 05 July 2019, 14:09
52.3 MPG. 

160 miles on M6/42/40/25/4. 

Average speed 56mph due to roadworks / traffic. 

3 month old GTI.

MPG is getting better as the engine has run in, currently 3k.

Some that "getting better" is down to the weather getting better - it will drop off again in Autumn /Wnter.
Forced induction petrol cars perform more efficiently in colder weather. Warm air/temps are a hindrance.

It's the complete opposite to diesel which performs more efficiently in the summer months and struggle in winter.

So you get better mpg in your petrol car in the winter? Seriously doubt that.

I'm assuming you're talking about heat soak and all that. Hotter temps have a progressively detrimental effect on power, but also a positive effect on mpg. The fuel is denser in the winter, the air has a higher oxygen content (and lower moisture content) per given volume, and so your car will be a bit more powerful in winter, and be using more fuel if you take advantage of it.

Fuel economy is all about maximum gaseous expansion for minimum fuel input.

Don't forget that a modern DI turboed petrol car is a lot more like a diesel than they used to be, with higher compression ratios taking a petrol engine to the verge of auto ignition (pinking) and then igniting it under spark.

Fuel (whether it be petrol or diesel is denser in cold temps. The air carries less moisture due to lower humidity levels in winter, so you get less expansion of the air/fuel mix under ignition (or auto ignition, in the case of diesel), relative to the fuel put in.

All that without even thinking about the negative effects of using your lights and heating more.

I rarely heat my car in the Winter and my petrol mpg dips about 5% on my Polo GTI and my previous Golf R. It is a lot more pronounced on the diesels (10%)
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Mutley75 on 05 July 2019, 14:14
I bought mine in March and I’m getting better mpg since it has been warmer. I leave the aircon on all year round too.
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: kmpowell on 05 July 2019, 14:59
52.3 MPG. 

160 miles on M6/42/40/25/4. 

Average speed 56mph due to roadworks / traffic. 

3 month old GTI.

MPG is getting better as the engine has run in, currently 3k.

Some that "getting better" is down to the weather getting better - it will drop off again in Autumn /Wnter.
Forced induction petrol cars perform more efficiently in colder weather. Warm air/temps are a hindrance.

It's the complete opposite to diesel which performs more efficiently in the summer months and struggle in winter.

So you get better mpg in your petrol car in the winter? Seriously doubt that.

I'm assuming you're talking about heat soak and all that. Hotter temps have a progressively detrimental effect on power, but also a positive effect on mpg. The fuel is denser in the winter, the air has a higher oxygen content (and lower moisture content) per given volume, and so your car will be a bit more powerful in winter, and be using more fuel if you take advantage of it.

Fuel economy is all about maximum gaseous expansion for minimum fuel input.

Don't forget that a modern DI turboed petrol car is a lot more like a diesel than they used to be, with higher compression ratios taking a petrol engine to the verge of auto ignition (pinking) and then igniting it under spark.

Fuel (whether it be petrol or diesel is denser in cold temps. The air carries less moisture due to lower humidity levels in winter, so you get less expansion of the air/fuel mix under ignition (or auto ignition, in the case of diesel), relative to the fuel put in.

All that without even thinking about the negative effects of using your lights and heating more.

I rarely heat my car in the Winter and my petrol mpg dips about 5% on my Polo GTI and my previous Golf R. It is a lot more pronounced on the diesels (10%)
As a standing item a petrol engine is more efficient in cold weather, yes, because the air is rich in oxygen and there's dramatically less heat soak/force through the induction. But the vehicle's aerodynamics are not more efficient because the air is thicker, so if the driver is doing consistent high motorway speeds that require the air to be moved by the car it'll be less efficient.
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Sootchucker on 05 July 2019, 19:00
Got to be happy with this. Sure it’s only quite a small trip and a lot of it was spent in a 50mph average speed camera section of the motorway, but still - the best I’ve ever got from my GTI (not far off what my GTD would get), from my poor mans non PP 6 speed DSG.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48206398572_ad9dcaa96a_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2grQoNY)
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Guzzle on 05 July 2019, 19:06
Those of you with dsg's, are you running them in auto or using the paddles?

Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Sootchucker on 05 July 2019, 19:13
 Normally auto for me (the above certainly was)
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Guzzle on 05 July 2019, 19:24
I see you have yours in Eco. I presume that's because you see a tangible benefit? How much so?
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Mutley75 on 05 July 2019, 19:27
I never use Eco on mine. It encourages harder throttle presses to get moving and just burns more juice. However if you drive like a 70 year old granny it can make a little bit of difference.  Although it mostly gains though cutting the fuel when going down hill etc. I achieve the same in normal or sport simply by lifting off when advantageous to do so.
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Sootchucker on 05 July 2019, 22:18
To be honest I find Eco mode far less flat and gutless on the GTI than I did on the previous 2 GTD’s. Don’t know if VW changed something, but it’s not bad at all at pickup (on mine at least) and gives me the added benefit of the coasting feature when coming off throttle, and that part does appear to make a difference.
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: sjw on 08 July 2019, 09:50
To be honest I find Eco mode far less flat and gutless on the GTI than I did on the previous 2 GTD’s. Don’t know if VW changed something, but it’s not bad at all at pickup (on mine at least) and gives me the added benefit of the coasting feature when coming off throttle, and that part does appear to make a difference.

The thing is with the Eco mode, is that it doesn't coast at all when using adaptive cruise. Surely that would be the best time to use it? Echo mode, motorway, ACC? Just seems to me like it isn't fully exploited
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: rwleigh on 08 July 2019, 10:09
Got to be happy with this. Sure it’s only quite a small trip and a lot of it was spent in a 50mph average speed camera section of the motorway, but still - the best I’ve ever got from my GTI (not far off what my GTD would get), from my poor mans non PP 6 speed DSG.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48206398572_ad9dcaa96a_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2grQoNY)

Went out in mine again last night for a similar 30 mile potter round, managed 47 mpg this time...  :cool:

(https://i.postimg.cc/HLTzDGjz/47.jpg)
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: king monkey on 11 July 2019, 18:05
Not unusual to get this on my commute to work in the mornings. Incredible really.

(https://i.postimg.cc/zDVcT886/5496-C991-374-D-469-D-838-A-880-C25016-C8-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rz2jk6dN)
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: DaveA on 12 July 2019, 11:06
Best I have seen in my (admittedly) short ownership so far was a recorded 48.7mpg over a 246 mile motorway journey... Just pootling along at the speed limits (with stretches of 50 limit roadworks) but it's pretty impressive when you don't feel the need to burn fuel...
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: CHB100 on 13 July 2019, 11:51
Not unusual to get this on my commute to work in the mornings. Incredible really.

(https://i.postimg.cc/zDVcT886/5496-C991-374-D-469-D-838-A-880-C25016-C8-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rz2jk6dN)

Blimey, what distance and average speed would that be over. Maybe a 50mph M6 roadworks cruise but not even close for me in the real world!  :huh:
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: king monkey on 13 July 2019, 15:05
Not unusual to get this on my commute to work in the mornings. Incredible really.

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Blimey, what distance and average speed would that be over. Maybe a 50mph M6 roadworks cruise but not even close for me in the real world!  :huh:

My commute is a real mixture of town centres and motorways but on my way to work it’s mostly downhill tbh! I hover around 30/31 on my way back. 15 miles each way to work and I leave before 7 so the traffic isn’t bad. Nothing excessive in terms of speed. Tend to sit bang on 70 on the motorway as it’s not busy but just flowing along if that makes sense.
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Ooosh on 19 August 2019, 14:32
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Was in Germany recently and managed excellent fuel economy considering ...
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: martin998877 on 21 August 2019, 09:00
My commute is 40 miles, lanes, A roads and M6 (currently at 50 mph all the way).  With a few overtakes on the B and A road, I am getting 47.5 mpg, with it in normal engine and ACC mode.

For a very powerful car, it is exceptional MPG, primarily due to the 60 50 on the M6.

A month ago I drove from the midlands via Glasgow, and Skye to Harris - 600 miles and again it got 45 mpg with ACC set to about 75 on the Mway the whole way.

Impressive engineering - power and economy both.
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: king monkey on 21 August 2019, 10:03
My commute is 40 miles, lanes, A roads and M6 (currently at 50 mph all the way).  With a few overtakes on the B and A road, I am getting 47.5 mpg, with it in normal engine and ACC mode.

For a very powerful car, it is exceptional MPG, primarily due to the 60 50 on the M6.

A month ago I drove from the midlands via Glasgow, and Skye to Harris - 600 miles and again it got 45 mpg with ACC set to about 75 on the Mway the whole way.

Impressive engineering - power and economy both.

Your post isn’t right. ACC set to about 75mph? We all know that the speed limit is 70.

Sorry. Couldn’t help myself! :smiley:
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: ar899 on 21 August 2019, 11:35
My commute is 40 miles, lanes, A roads and M6 (currently at 50 mph all the way).  With a few overtakes on the B and A road, I am getting 47.5 mpg, with it in normal engine and ACC mode.

For a very powerful car, it is exceptional MPG, primarily due to the 60 50 on the M6.

A month ago I drove from the midlands via Glasgow, and Skye to Harris - 600 miles and again it got 45 mpg with ACC set to about 75 on the Mway the whole way.

Impressive engineering - power and economy both.

Your post isn’t right. ACC set to about 75mph? We all know that the speed limit is 70.

Sorry. Couldn’t help myself! :smiley:

ACC set to 75mph doesn't necessarily mean you are breaking the speed limit. You probably are by 2-3 mph BUT speedometers do vary and the law only limits overreading to 10% of actual speed + 6.25mph. Am sure there aren't many that overread by that much but manufacturing works to tolerances.
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: king monkey on 21 August 2019, 12:21
As suspected, my joke wasn’t funny.  :grin:
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: martin998877 on 21 August 2019, 12:24
It was funny :)

With ACC set to 75, the car is doing 73 exactly on my tomtom gps and also my speed cam database (ie legal!) gps.  73 is a speed I'm happy about going through the new roadside gantry cameras on the 'intelligent' 4 lane motorways around here.

I occasionally tweak it up 1 or 2 more, in the right places!
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: rajb on 21 August 2019, 12:29
It used to be a tolerance of speed limit plus 10% + 2mph, but I believe it was never an exact hard and fast rule. I have known 2 people so far to be done going through average speed zones on the M6 at different points be done for only doing a few mph over the limit (so still within the 'tolerance').

But then I do go through them at just over the limit (say 65 in the 60 zone) and it's been fine.
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: king monkey on 21 August 2019, 12:41
It used to be a tolerance of speed limit plus 10% + 2mph, but I believe it was never an exact hard and fast rule. I have known 2 people so far to be done going through average speed zones on the M6 at different points be done for only doing a few mph over the limit (so still within the 'tolerance').

But then I do go through them at just over the limit (say 65 in the 60 zone) and it's been fine.

Yeah. I think it depends on the police in your area. My dad was done years ago doing 32mph downhill in a very old Vw transporter. Think he was actually quite pleased. There’s more of a zero tolerance approach nowadays I believe.
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: rajb on 21 August 2019, 12:45

Yeah. I think it depends on the police in your area. My dad was done years ago doing 32mph downhill in a very old Vw transporter. Think he was actually quite pleased. There’s more of a zero tolerance approach nowadays I believe.

Yeah agreed.

I think with the improvements of accuracy with speedos etc they are starting to not be so lenient in cases.
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 21 August 2019, 14:52
It was funny :)

With ACC set to 75, the car is doing 73 exactly on my tomtom gps and also my speed cam database (ie legal!) gps.  73 is a speed I'm happy about going through the new roadside gantry cameras on the 'intelligent' 4 lane motorways around here.

I occasionally tweak it up 1 or 2 more, in the right places!

My ACC is always set to 57 through roadworks and no issues.
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: jv on 21 August 2019, 15:34
Better not drive across Cambridge then  :grin:
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Highland28 on 27 August 2019, 19:43
I managed 52mpg on my 33 mile commute home today. A mixture of back roads, A roads and a short section of busier motorway, where speeds varied between 60 and 70. After only a couple of week owning my 2013 GTI, I can't believe what it is capable of. I am not intending on driving particularly economically, just focusing on reading the road, and the traffic to maintain momentum wherever possible.
The back roads are largely downhill on my way home, although i still I get 38 on the way into work. Averaging around 41/42mpg for the tank so far.
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Upperoilcan on 01 October 2019, 08:51
I would love to see what figures the Golf R's are producing in comparison to the GTI's
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Exonian on 01 October 2019, 14:40
I jumped in my son’s 1.0 TSI 115PS Ibiza yesterday, this was his consumption from his last trip. Bear in mind he’s 23 and has lead boots!
I need an up! GTI in my life!! (Same engine, lighter chassis)

(https://i.postimg.cc/k5vKscNj/BBF0434-F-036-E-46-E1-A0-C2-80-A47236-BBB9.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GB94hv5Y)

Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Watts on 01 October 2019, 18:15
I need an up! GTI in my life!!

For a very reasonable fee I'd be fully prepared to look after your CS :whistle:
Title: Re: 46 MPG.
Post by: Exonian on 01 October 2019, 19:40
I need an up! GTI in my life!!

For a very reasonable fee I'd be fully prepared to look after your CS :whistle:

Your generous offer has touched my heart  :grin: