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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Zmithy on 28 May 2019, 13:55

Title: Remap Query (Already remapped)
Post by: Zmithy on 28 May 2019, 13:55
Hello all,

I'm wondering if anyone can help, I know its not the easiest to answer over a keyboard but its worth a try. I've done a quick search and cannot seem to see something.

I've driven plenty of MK7 GTI's over the years, and due to the turbo you get that kick of torque as the turbo spools up. However I've recently picked up a MK7 GTI that Ive been told is remapped (no idea by who) and it has a THUMP of torque at just over 2k revs, but it plateaus out very quickly and I'm finding I need to change gear to get moving again, this is well before 6k revs.

I've gotten to the point where I put my foot down the tiniest bit and the torque hits, but its not smooth and it doesn't particularly feel drive-able, its not controllable and its pretty much all or nothing. A few years ago I had a Fabia vRS and was involved on the Forums, it was common knowledge that Revo used to give more of a torque kick but were ruining clutches, where other companies such as Shark at the time did a lot smoother maps.

My question is, does this sound like I could have a 'Revo' style map, and are there any maps out there that are alot smooter with a more 'driveable' torque curve? I'm happy to have less power, just want a more enjoyable drive.

Tar!
Title: Re: Remap Query (Already remapped)
Post by: martininwillerby on 28 May 2019, 14:29
Hi...

Not sure how to answer your question other than to say not all remaps are equal and done correctly.
if you can get yourself to West Yorkshire Tuning in bradford they will be able to analyse the map and correct it if it's wrong.
give them a quick call or look on face book.

hope that helps
Title: Re: Remap Query (Already remapped)
Post by: Zmithy on 28 May 2019, 15:00
 
Hi...

Not sure how to answer your question other than to say not all remaps are equal and done correctly.
if you can get yourself to West Yorkshire Tuning in bradford they will be able to analyse the map and correct it if it's wrong.
give them a quick call or look on face book.

hope that helps


That definitely would help, are they able to analyse any map, or only ones provided by them?

It just seems that the map is instantaneous, there is no linear motion to the pedal. Just all or nothing.
Title: Re: Remap Query (Already remapped)
Post by: pendulum1997 on 28 May 2019, 19:13
Try sending an email off to all the big off the shelf mapping companies like APR and REVO, if you include your VIN they can tell you if the car is on their system, also check there's no pedal boxes or piggybacks hiding anywhere like a DTUK or a JB4!
Title: Re: Remap Query (Already remapped)
Post by: dubber36 on 29 May 2019, 06:36
It sounds like an unknown quantity that could be doing more harm than good. I'd get the dealers to flash it back to stock, then start from square one.
Title: Re: Remap Query (Already remapped)
Post by: Zmithy on 29 May 2019, 09:16
It sounds like an unknown quantity that could be doing more harm than good. I'd get the dealers to flash it back to stock, then start from square one.

I think this is a good shout, start at the beginning and get it mapped by a reputable company that I have done research on.
Title: Re: Remap Query (Already remapped)
Post by: sjw on 29 May 2019, 11:07
For what my (unmapped) opinion is worth, I gather Revo is much better than they were now, and it is APR who are going for the peak  numbers. However, even they are trying now to dial it back in a bit, and add power in different ways to get a nicer curve.
Title: Re: Remap Query (Already remapped)
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 29 May 2019, 15:21
Also, could you not check the V5 for the last owners details and drop them a line and ask what remap it is?

Title: Re: Remap Query (Already remapped)
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 30 May 2019, 00:45
Ex Briskoda, Fabia vRS, shark remap owner here  :cool:

The good old days...

Haven't remapped my GTi yet but I think it's on the cards, I'm starting to get bored.
Title: Re: Remap Query (Already remapped)
Post by: SRGTD on 30 May 2019, 07:50
Also, could you not check the V5 for the last owners details and drop them a line and ask what remap it is?

I don’t think the previous registered keeper’s details are shown on the V5 registration document any longer - deleted for Data Protection Act reasons.
Title: Re: Remap Query (Already remapped)
Post by: Exonian on 30 May 2019, 13:00
You really do need to find out who mapped the car and whether there are any hardware changes too.
Assuming it’s a manual the clutch won’t survive long without slipping with a torque delivery like that so it might be possible that’s been uprated.

Boost spikes aren’t healthy and can damage other components plus traction issues and poor drivability.
If it’s a map from a big name they could investigate whether there are other faults causing the boost spikes followed by power tail off.

There are plenty of options such as taking it to an established mapper and purchase their map thus removing what you have now and gaining a map with better credentials, or getting a dealer to reflash back to stock.
Finding the previous owner would clear the mystery and give an insight to the history of the car. It’s always a risk buying a modified car, more so if not meeting the person who did the mods and deciding whether they’re a psycho or just an enthusiast with mechanical sympathy wanting something better than came out the factory.
Title: Re: Remap Query (Already remapped)
Post by: Burger81 on 03 June 2019, 15:28
My Revo map on my GTi isn't all or nothing. Sure there is a noticeable shove when the turbo comes in but it is very willing to rev to the redline too.

It's like the normal characteristics of the engine just dialled up a few notches.
Title: Re: Remap Query (Already remapped)
Post by: Zmithy on 06 March 2020, 20:31
Ex Briskoda, Fabia vRS, shark remap owner here  :cool:

The good old days...

Haven't remapped my GTi yet but I think it's on the cards, I'm starting to get bored.

Ryan, did you get this mapped in the end? Tried to PM you, but guessing I don't have permissions.
Title: Re: Remap Query (Already remapped)
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 08 March 2020, 15:03
Ex Briskoda, Fabia vRS, shark remap owner here  :cool:

The good old days...

Haven't remapped my GTi yet but I think it's on the cards, I'm starting to get bored.

Ryan, did you get this mapped in the end? Tried to PM you, but guessing I don't have permissions.

Yes, ended up going with Unicorn in Stockport.
(https://i.ibb.co/9HM3P60/REMAP-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jkpZtmY)

I wasn't too impressed at first as I was getting a misfire but since I've changed my spark plugs and coils everything has improved. I'm now getting better economy and can still return good economy even when pushing on which is exactly what I asked for as the main purpose of the car is for commuting rather than a toy.

For the price I paid I'm happy enough, £640 for remap and DSG map in the black Friday sale.