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Title: Perfect CS40...
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 11 May 2019, 11:48
Found my perfect spec - TR, DSG, Buckets, DCC, Brescias, Dynaudio, low miles.

Shame I'm a year into a 2-year company lease! But this looks like a great car for someone so thought I'd share. Seems good value as it's VW approved. Almost underpriced!

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZKVjvNt7/Screenshot-2019-05-11-at-11-46-06.png) (https://postimg.cc/fJSY6Jbm)

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201903306452433?sort=sponsored&postcode=s37bh&make=VOLKSWAGEN&radius=1500&advertising-location=at_cars&keywords=clubsport&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=GOLF&page=3
Title: Re: Perfect CS40...
Post by: Guzzle on 11 May 2019, 13:10
Not bad. Looks like Nav Pro is fitted too... :huh:
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Post by: Exonian on 11 May 2019, 13:39
Probably nearly a £40k car with those options when new!
A bit of a bargain.
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Post by: Watts on 11 May 2019, 14:21
Great colour :wink: and seats but too many doors. My loan car yesterday was a 5 door and I wasn't keen. Practical admittedly if you need it to be.
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Post by: wantmygti on 11 May 2019, 15:10
Great colour :wink: and seats but too many doors. My loan car yesterday was a 5 door and I wasn't keen. Practical admittedly if you need it to be.

Too many doors and wrong wheels...
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Post by: too hot on 11 May 2019, 17:40
Looks nice but too many doors !
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Post by: mcmaddy on 11 May 2019, 17:57
Well I'll be the first to say that 5 doors look better than 3 on the mk7 shape.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Perfect CS40...
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 11 May 2019, 18:10
Well I'll be the first to say that 5 doors look better than 3 on the mk7 shape.  :whistle:

I’m with you, suits the Mk7 better with 5 doors for sure  :smiley:
Title: Re: Perfect CS40...
Post by: Watts on 11 May 2019, 18:39
Well I'll be the first to say that 5 doors look better than 3 on the mk7 shape.  :whistle:

I’m with you, suits the Mk7 better with 5 doors for sure  :smiley:

Great news! Specsavers are offering free eye examinations! :whistle: :wink: :laugh:
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Post by: mcmaddy on 11 May 2019, 18:45
The lines of the 5 door are much nicer than the 3 door. It shouldn't even be a debate  :whistle: :wink:
Title: Re: Perfect CS40...
Post by: Watts on 11 May 2019, 18:49
The lines of the 5 door are much nicer than the 3 door. It shouldn't even be a debate  :whistle: :wink:

 :tongue: (That's about as adult as I can get in any debate).
Title: Re: Perfect CS40...
Post by: wantmygti on 11 May 2019, 21:36
The lines of the 5 door are much nicer than the 3 door. It shouldn't even be a debate  :whistle: :wink:

I don’t believe this statement has ever been true. On any car. Ever.
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Post by: Lump on 12 May 2019, 05:29
The lines of the 5 door are much nicer than the 3 door. It shouldn't even be a debate  :whistle: :wink:

I don’t believe this statement has ever been true. On any car. Ever.

My kids must suffer the indignation of climbing (very carefully) through to the back. Two door appreciation club member here too!
Title: Re: Perfect CS40...
Post by: mcmaddy on 12 May 2019, 08:46
The lines of the 5 door are much nicer than the 3 door. It shouldn't even be a debate  :whistle: :wink:

I don’t believe this statement has ever been true. On any car. Ever.
apart from the mk7 golf  :grin: :grin:
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Post by: TurboTrev on 12 May 2019, 09:13
I am of a certain age where I was brought up on 3 door hot hatches.  There was no such thing as a 5 door hot hatch back in the day, so I am firmly in the 3 door camp.  I just can't see 5 doors as a sporty profile.  Same as these new fangled taxi engined GTD stylee "hot hatches".  Again, back in the day there was no such thing as a hot taxi engined car.  Dinosaur, I am. :smiley:
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Post by: SRGTD on 12 May 2019, 10:06
I am of a certain age where I was brought up on 3 door hot hatches.  There was no such thing as a 5 door hot hatch back in the day, so I am firmly in the 3 door camp.  I just can't see 5 doors as a sporty profile.  Same as these new fangled taxi engined GTD stylee "hot hatches".  Again, back in the day there was no such thing as a hot taxi engined car.  Dinosaur, I am. :smiley:

I’m also of a certain age and have owned many 3 door hot hatches. However with advancing age, I’m now firmly in the 5 door camp as I prefer the convenience and flexibility that 5 doors gives me, especially when getting in and out of the car in confined spaces and when transporting not so agile elderly relatives who struggle - or find it impossible - to get into the back of a three door car these days.

Five doors and good performance is the perfect combination for me. I also think the proportions of the five door Golf look better aesthetically than the three door model (sorry, 3 door owners / lovers!). Just my opinion though, and it’s good we don’t all like the same things, otherwise life would be boring!
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Post by: mcmaddy on 12 May 2019, 10:46
Agree with you entirely SRGTD. 5 door hot hatches are for people who want the hot hatch but still need a family car for kids and parents/grand parents. If people prefer 3 doors that's fine just as some people prefer 5 doors which is also fine 👍
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Post by: Yusee on 12 May 2019, 11:13
This generation car too long for 3 door. 5 looks better and works better with kids!
And you may as well get used to it. Just as the manual gti is dead so is the 3 door ( nearly!)
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Post by: gizzywizzy on 12 May 2019, 11:52
What’s worse for me is hot hatch estates.  A Ford Focus ST estate and a VW R estate is just wrong but then I love the 5 door hatch and dislike the 3 door so what do I know  :laugh:

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Post by: mkviken on 12 May 2019, 12:40
Shame it’s not a manual and doesn’t have Pretoria’s or Belvedere’s
Title: Re: Perfect CS40...
Post by: Watts on 12 May 2019, 14:53
and when transporting not so agile elderly relatives who struggle - or find it impossible - to get into the back of a three door car

Very true but there are some positives here, like when my mum was in the back of mine (3 door) trying to get out, nearly did it before falling bum first back into the rear footwell :grin: I really wish I'd had a smart phone to record it on :whistle:
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Post by: monkeyhanger on 12 May 2019, 17:02
I am of a certain age where I was brought up on 3 door hot hatches.  There was no such thing as a 5 door hot hatch back in the day, so I am firmly in the 3 door camp.  I just can't see 5 doors as a sporty profile.  Same as these new fangled taxi engined GTD stylee "hot hatches".  Again, back in the day there was no such thing as a hot taxi engined car.  Dinosaur, I am. :smiley:

The Golf GTI has been available in 5 doors right from its very beginnings in the MK1. Small cars do suit 3 doors better. Back in the MK2 Golf days, a lot of its hot hatch competition was smaller again - the likes of the Renault 5 GT Turbo and Peugeot 205 GTI. The Astra GTE and XR3i were the same class size, but still small compared to the current Golf/Astra/Focus.

3 doors on a medium to large size car now is a PITA with wider cars and parking spaces not betting any bigger (the worst I have come across being my Boss' A5). I do my utmost not to park next to a 3 door car, as its doors are likely to clatter my car when the occupants get out.

First and foremost, a hot hatch is practical, and 3 doors are pretty impractical these days due to the width/parking issue.

The Golf isn't small any more, it looks just as good in 5 doors as 3 doors.

Nowt wrong with hot diesels either, now they are actually hot rather than being a 70hp naturally aspirated clattery lump with a trim upgrade. Many people love the effortless torque of a high powered diesel and still having great fuel economy.
Title: Re: Perfect CS40...
Post by: TurboTrev on 12 May 2019, 17:08
I've never seen a Mk1 Gti although they seem to have existed?
Title: Re: Perfect CS40...
Post by: Yusee on 12 May 2019, 19:30
And another thing- there’s no difference in kerb weight between 3 and 5 door variants in the mk7, I think previous generations the 5 door was a little heavier.
So the 5 door looks better, better for young and old passengers, easier to park and get out of and better??/ just as good to drive.
So we’re all agreed then, 5 door is best.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Perfect CS40...
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 12 May 2019, 20:27
3 door looks ok. But 5 doors is the reason they sell so many Golfs... so no point hating the 5 door as if it wasn’t for that existing they wouldn’t be making any Golfs, let alone performance versions!

Here’s a snap shot of the split of all hatchback Golfs currently for sale on Autotrader. Almost 90% are 5 door.

(https://i.postimg.cc/6p9CfQqp/FB50-EA2-C-0-FC7-4001-8-F6-B-6-A4-C414-AD02-F.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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Post by: monkeyhanger on 12 May 2019, 21:37
3 door looks ok. But 5 doors is the reason they sell so many Golfs... so no point hating the 5 door as if it wasn’t for that existing they wouldn’t be making any Golfs, let alone performance versions!

Here’s a snap shot of the split of all hatchback Golfs currently for sale on Autotrader. Almost 90% are 5 door.

(https://i.postimg.cc/6p9CfQqp/FB50-EA2-C-0-FC7-4001-8-F6-B-6-A4-C414-AD02-F.png) (https://postimages.org/)

And that's why VW and all the other manufacturers are dropping 3 door variants for many cars to make things more efficient. MK5 and 6, the 3 door variant used to be somewhere in the region of 30Kg lighter.
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Post by: Watts on 12 May 2019, 21:40
And another thing- there’s no difference in kerb weight between 3 and 5 door variants in the mk7, I think previous generations the 5 door was a little heavier.
So the 5 door looks better, better for young and old passengers, easier to park and get out of and better??/ just as good to drive.
So we’re all agreed then, 5 door is best.  :whistle:

No way Jose! 3 door all the way :whistle:

3 door looks ok. But 5 doors is the reason they sell so many Golfs... so no point hating the 5 door as if it wasn’t for that existing they wouldn’t be making any Golfs, let alone performance versions!

Here’s a snap shot of the split of all hatchback Golfs currently for sale on Autotrader. Almost 90% are 5 door.

(https://i.postimg.cc/6p9CfQqp/FB50-EA2-C-0-FC7-4001-8-F6-B-6-A4-C414-AD02-F.png) (https://postimages.org/)

Not as big a split if you just look at MK7/7.5 GTIs - 105 3 dr vs 372 5 dr :whistle: But it is always likely to be this way as admittedly most buyers probably need a practical car but want it to be sporting too so a GTI fits the bill in 5 dr. I've always been a coupe kind of person from my first car so I'm predisposed towards 2/3 dr, always preferred the look. Not sure where I'd go if I get another new car and there's no 3 dr Golf available. Having said that I didn't take to the new centre dash design of the 7.5 I had last week so if the MK8 expands on that then it might not be for me regardless of the door options available.
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Post by: Snoopy on 12 May 2019, 22:00

The Golf GTI has been available in 5 doors right from its very beginnings in the MK1. Small cars do suit 3 doors better. Back in the MK2 Golf days, a lot of its hot hatch competition was smaller again
Just for the record no the mk1 wasnt, mk2 was though.
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Post by: monkeyhanger on 12 May 2019, 22:03

The Golf GTI has been available in 5 doors right from its very beginnings in the MK1. Small cars do suit 3 doors better. Back in the MK2 Golf days, a lot of its hot hatch competition was smaller again
Just for the record no the mk1 wasnt, mk2 was though.

You may be right, for the UK market. It was available in LHD:-

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C996376 (https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C996376)
Title: Re: Perfect CS40...
Post by: Snoopy on 12 May 2019, 22:25

The Golf GTI has been available in 5 doors right from its very beginnings in the MK1. Small cars do suit 3 doors better. Back in the MK2 Golf days, a lot of its hot hatch competition was smaller again
Just for the record no the mk1 wasnt, mk2 was though.

You may be right, for the UK market. It was available in LHD:-

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C996376 (https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C996376)
Ill not coment on the car linked to but i do recognise the model the interior is the same as  i may check at some point if this one is discussed on the mk1oc site and see if my suspicions right.
Title: Re: Perfect CS40...
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 12 May 2019, 22:54
And another thing- there’s no difference in kerb weight between 3 and 5 door variants in the mk7, I think previous generations the 5 door was a little heavier.
So the 5 door looks better, better for young and old passengers, easier to park and get out of and better??/ just as good to drive.
So we’re all agreed then, 5 door is best.  :whistle:

No way Jose! 3 door all the way :whistle:

3 door looks ok. But 5 doors is the reason they sell so many Golfs... so no point hating the 5 door as if it wasn’t for that existing they wouldn’t be making any Golfs, let alone performance versions!

Here’s a snap shot of the split of all hatchback Golfs currently for sale on Autotrader. Almost 90% are 5 door.

(https://i.postimg.cc/6p9CfQqp/FB50-EA2-C-0-FC7-4001-8-F6-B-6-A4-C414-AD02-F.png) (https://postimages.org/)

Not as big a split if you just look at MK7/7.5 GTIs - 105 3 dr vs 372 5 dr :whistle: But it is always likely to be this way as admittedly most buyers probably need a practical car but want it to be sporting too so a GTI fits the bill in 5 dr. I've always been a coupe kind of person from my first car so I'm predisposed towards 2/3 dr, always preferred the look. Not sure where I'd go if I get another new car and there's no 3 dr Golf available. Having said that I didn't take to the new centre dash design of the 7.5 I had last week so if the MK8 expands on that then it might not be for me regardless of the door options available.

True for the GTI.

GTI Performance? 28 in 3 dr and 252 in 5 dr.... so about 90%  :whistle:

Regarding the interior, I do like the 7.5 and think it makes the 7 look dated, especially ones that have the very small media screen.

I’d be surprised if the Mk8 isn’t along the lines of the new Touareg so don’t expect many buttons. Sat in the new A6 yesterday, very nice but button wise there ain’t many!

Power/volume switch and some essentials like traction, drive select and dismist. Headlights are a button not a turn knob. The future is here....!

(https://i.postimg.cc/yYbxGYYP/29-BB612-B-F021-4-C84-833-E-44170-DE16-EE1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PP1dpHDp)

(https://i.postimg.cc/VL654b1v/761-D7841-7-C4-B-4661-A645-5-E215-E55-B324.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PNgt5JCn)

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Post by: charlie_cc on 13 May 2019, 08:14
Great price for the spec.

I assume it's priced so well because it's in chav red.
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Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 13 May 2019, 09:26
Great price for the spec.

I assume it's priced so well because it's in chav red.

Chav red?  :rolleyes:
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Post by: charlie_cc on 13 May 2019, 09:38
Chav red?  :rolleyes:

Strictly speaking, I believe they call it Tornado Red. Hopefully next iteration they'll change the name to the much more descriptive 'Chav Red'.
Title: Re: Perfect CS40...
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 13 May 2019, 09:40
Chav red?  :rolleyes:

Strictly speaking, I believe they call it Tornado Red. Hopefully next iteration they'll change the name to the much more descriptive 'Chav Red'.

What makes it chav out of interest? Never heard of a red car being called chav red?

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Post by: charlie_cc on 13 May 2019, 10:26
What makes it chav out of interest? Never heard of a red car being called chav red?

It's quite hard to categorise exactly, obviously certain cars in red aren't chav. A red ferrari for example wouldn't normally be descibed as chav, unless it had been chav'd up, which is unlikely as the average chav can't afford a ferrari.

The GTI is already veering towards being a chav car. It has all the hallmarks a chav looks for when trying to impress their mates, it's fast and relatively cheap, for the performance. and it's easy to pick up after market add-ons from Halfords. Also think about all of the old GTIs kicking around that have awful body kits, lowered suspesion etc. They sully the brand, and push it towards being chav.

This isn't just limited to GTIs, think Subaru Imprezza, Focus RS, etc.

What's makes these cars even more chav? A colour that makes them stand out so they can show off even more, and red is the most common colour that does this.

By the way, I have a 7.5. I would love to have it debadged and wish it didn't come with those awful chav alloys. The problem is, it's such a damn good car I had to get one. My next car will be a Golf-R, much more subtle IMO.

Just my opinion, I understand a lot of people will disagree.
Title: Re: Perfect CS40...
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 13 May 2019, 10:30
What makes it chav out of interest? Never heard of a red car being called chav red?


The GTI is already veering towards being a chav car.



 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Title: Re: Perfect CS40...
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 13 May 2019, 10:31
What makes it chav out of interest? Never heard of a red car being called chav red?

It's quite hard to categorise exactly, obviously certain cars in red aren't chav. A red ferrari for example wouldn't normally be descibed as chav, unless it had been chav'd up, which is unlikely as the average chav can't afford a ferrari.

The GTI is already veering towards being a chav car. It has all the hallmarks a chav looks for when trying to impress their mates, it's fast and relatively cheap, for the performance. and it's easy to pick up after market add-ons from Halfords. Also think about all of the old GTIs kicking around that have awful body kits, lowered suspesion etc. They sully the brand, and push it towards being chav.

This isn't just limited to GTIs, think Subaru Imprezza, Focus RS, etc.

What's makes these cars even more chav? A colour that makes them stand out so they can show off even more, and red is the most common colour that does this.

By the way, I have a 7.5. I would love to have it debadged and wish it didn't come with those awful chav alloys. The problem is, it's such a damn good car I had to get one. My next car will be a Golf-R, much more subtle IMO.

Just my opinion, I understand a lot of people will disagree.

Never known anyone buys a car that they think is for chavs, doesn't like the badges (which is one of the most iconic badges for any car) and doesn't like the wheels. Very strange.

Ps Debadging takes around 10 mins max so hardly a big job!
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Post by: Hertsman on 13 May 2019, 10:33
Well I'll be the first to say that 5 doors look better than 3 on the mk7 shape.  :whistle:

People will obviously argue that but think everyone will agree that the Golf is the best car seen for holding its hatchback shape in the 5 door form out there in market - so you might prefer the 3 door but if have to have the 5 door you would not be having to settle for a ruined look.

My 2 previous cars were 3 door, my preferred, but it was such a huge pain accommodating passengers and the doors were always an issue in car park, and then along comes the MK7 and saved me as can have all the convenience of the 5 door and for me keeping the hatchback looks and lines that like everyone else are my preference,
Title: Re: Perfect CS40...
Post by: charlie_cc on 13 May 2019, 10:36
Ps Debadging takes around 10 mins max so hardly a big job!

It's a lease, so I can't do anything to it.
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Post by: monkeyhanger on 13 May 2019, 10:44
For me, debadging screams "Charva!" (what we in the North East call "chavs", as do wind deflectors and adding superfluous chrome trim.

The Golf suits red (except on the R).

When they get old/cheap enough, pretty much any performance car is going to become a charva car.
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Post by: charlie_cc on 13 May 2019, 11:03
For me, debadging screams "Charva!"

Yep, debadging can go both ways. You've got a cheap 1.4 but you don't want people to know, so you debadge, add body kit etc, tell everyone you have something more impressive.

Or, you don't want to be associated with a particular type of badge because of the stigma attached (in my case, GTI).
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Post by: Snoopy on 13 May 2019, 12:16
Ive always tried to avoid buying a red car as my father was a fireman so they were always called fire engine red and he just took the piss.  :grin: Had similar issue with 'primer' grey and 'reps car' white  :grin:

Chavs round here seem to prefer white or grey.
Title: Re: Perfect CS40...
Post by: Watts on 13 May 2019, 19:25
I love my red car. I don't think I'm a chav :embarrassed:

Does the number of doors make a difference? :whistle:
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Post by: Yusee on 13 May 2019, 19:45
I love my red car. I don't think I'm a chav :embarrassed:

Does the number of doors make a difference? :whistle:

I don't think you'll like the answer to that one
Title: Re: Perfect CS40...
Post by: Watts on 13 May 2019, 20:31
I love my red car. I don't think I'm a chav :embarrassed:

Does the number of doors make a difference? :whistle:

I don't think you'll like the answer to that one

 :cry: :rolleyes: :laugh:
Title: Re: Perfect CS40...
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 13 May 2019, 21:16
I love my red car. I don't think I'm a chav :embarrassed:

Does the number of doors make a difference? :whistle:

I don't think you'll like the answer to that one

 :cry: :rolleyes: :laugh:

Watts, don't worry.. TR looks fantastic! Anyone saying otherwise is clearly blind!  :grin:
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Post by: Exonian on 14 May 2019, 13:25
How the hell can anyone call a red GTI a chav car?

Ok, older generations of GTI maybe that litter housing estates in various states of disrepair and poor maintenance.

But a newish GTI a chav car? Not a chance. Maybe it depends on geographical location but where I live I’d say the GTI was one of the least chav hatches going alongside the A Class.
In fact going from some examples I’ve seen recently I’d say the model above it in the range is more prone to falling into chav hands.  :lipsrsealed: (and I’m a huge fan of both so long as they’re kept tasteful therefore definitely no bias)