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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Jim_mk7.5 on 27 March 2019, 09:17
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Well, looks like all new cars will have them from 2022...
Time to start finding your perfect Golf to keep for the foreseeable..
The system can be overridden temporarily. If a car is overtaking a lorry on a motorway and enters a lower speed-limit area, the driver can push down hard on the accelerator to complete the manoeuvre.
The car will not brake automatically when the speed limit is reduced, but will give the driver a visual warning instead. It is the driver's responsibility to obey the warning.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47715415
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I was about to post the same.
This is chilling.
But inevitable I guess and a sign of things to come. More and more and more control of all aspects of our lives by the State. Dystopian sci-if is becoming reality.
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Worrying insn't it.
I've seen a few comments floating regarding tuners will work to remove/ disable the hardware and map this feature out.
Seriously considering buying something older and NA to keep for a long time. Thinking a 986 S 3.2 especially now its been given classic status by Porsche.
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You can try it now.... engage the speed limiter function... if you kick down to the bottom of the throttle it over-rides it temporarily.
Not braking when entering a lower speed limit is interesting though, I guess that's their legal getout for me getting a speeding ticket and then blaming the OEM...
On the whole, I don't see too much of an issue with this to be fair.
By 2022 lots of automation will be out there anyway, already VAG have the new map based ACC with automatic speed adjustment for corners and forward assist looking for speed bumps etc.
The future is almost here...
BTW besides the speed limiter, also they want mandatory lane assist too....
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You know what’s next though. Automatic fines and points on the license courtesy of GPS. Unless we can play the human rights and privacy card...
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You know what’s next though. Automatic fines and points on the license courtesy of GPS. Unless we can play the human rights and privacy card...
I'm not sure about that.... too many technical issues around the reliability of that. Unsafe convictions etc.
I have similar concerns about the GPS enabled ACC tbh...
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As I understand it, and from that article, the ISA (Intelligent Speed Assistance system), will have an On/Off switch that that auto resets every time you re-start the car (much like a load of folk currently do with the stop / start system), so it won't "force" you to slow down if you don't want to, however here's the rub and the more worrying consequence for speeders:
So it'll still be a free-for-all for speeding motorists then? Not quite. Under the new rules, cars will also be fitted with compulsory data recorders, or "black boxes".
So if you have an accident, the police and your insurance company will know whether you've been going too fast. If you've been keeping your foot down and routinely ignoring the car's warnings, they may take a very dim view of your actions.
In fact, it's this "spy on board" which may ultimately have a bigger impact on driver behaviour than any kind of speed limiter. It's easy to get away with reckless driving when there's only a handful of traffic cops around to stop you. Much harder when there's a spy in the cab recording your every move
So, if you do choose to speed then get caught by the Police or most unfortunately be involved in an accident, both the Police and the insurance companies can use the on board "black box" to find out what you were doing and either prosecute you or have your insurance null and void if you are found to have been speeding and ignoring the in car warnings.
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I've already got a speed limiter - she sits in the passenger seat.
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So, if you do choose to speed then get caught by the Police or most unfortunately be involved in an accident, both the Police and the insurance companies can use the on board "black box" to find out what you were doing and either prosecute you or have your insurance null and void if you are found to have been speeding and ignoring the in car warnings.
TBH thats already there.... they only tend to look at it in fatalities, but its there...
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I can see new car sales dropping in 2022 as a lot of people who enjoy driving will be keeping hold of there non limited cars for longer.
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Did you also see that they are planning on speed restrictors too?180km/h (112 mph)
Volvo apparently are bringing it in before the others in MY21, but 2022 is when its mandatory.
Although to be fair, by the time we get to electric vehicles (probably around the same time), the milkfloats won't go that fast anyway!
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^^^ Isn't that the case with Japanese cars? I seem to remember when grey import EVOs and STIs were all the rage, it seemed to be something that needed addressing when they got here. Also a Top Gear GTR feature filmed in Japan had Clarkson telling us about it. When the GPS told the car it was at a race track, the limiter was removed.
All the more reason to buy a bigger, more useful vehicle, like a pick up or kombi van. In those, there is no incentive to press on. Just sit up high and enjoy the view.
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In fairness though to a 112mph speed restriction, for 99.9% if not 100% of us, so what? So long as it does everything else the same as before it wouldn't bother me. The nanny in the glovebox though is a different matter, no thanks. It's just there to harrass the generally law abiding populace and those that drive really dangerously will keep getting away with it. The oft-quoted "speed kills" is wrong, inappropriate speed kills.
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I find this quite worrying. It’ll be interesting to see how it actually plays out in reality but my thoughts yesterday were that my R might be my last new car at this rate. Could be a good thing. It’ll save me loads of money!