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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Catnapper on 26 February 2019, 14:39
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Does anyone actually find the standard Satnav on a facelift GTI any good :angry:
Am I better off not using the 3 route option as I can't for the life of me decide which one is best.
99% of the time I end up using Google through Android Auto.
Anyone happy with theirs, if so hints please.
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You can't beat Google or Waze though ACP/AA. Why would you want to use anything else? :smiley:
I've not even fired up the in-car Nav since getting the car 2 months ago.
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The nav in my Mk7 works ok . It's a bit clunky in operation but gets me where I'm going as well as my iPhone does.
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I don't use it much but on the few times I have it has been pretty poor. Generally I'll make my own notes from a map to get me 95% to where I want to be and let the nav assist for the last bit (which is usually the tricky part). If I have my co-pilot on board, we'll rely more on her iphone which does seem to be a lot better. I often find the in-built nav will tell you which lane or which exit too late to be of much help. It doesn't do my blood pressure any good :rolleyes:
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I don't use it much but on the few times I have it has been pretty poor. Generally I'll make my own notes from a map to get me 95% to where I want to be and let the nav assist for the last bit (which is usually the tricky part). If I have my co-pilot on board, we'll rely more on her iphone which does seem to be a lot better. I often find the in-built nav will tell you which lane or which exit too late to be of much help. It doesn't do my blood pressure any good :rolleyes:
Proper old school. I have my satnav on all the time even if it just on the commute into work. The traffic updates are a lifesaver at times.
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The built in sat nav isn't the most sophisticated, but it always gets me where i need to go to. Using Car Play or Android Auto isn't without its drawbacks;-
You can't run Google Maps or similar in the active info display.
You can't have two mobile phones connected at the same time as App Connect is running. Not a big deal to some, but I have my personal and work phones connected while commuting.
You can't listen to music through anything connected via the aux while App Connect is running. I have an 80gb iPod Classic connected.
App Connect isn't wireless. You have to take your phone out of your pocket each time to connect it to the car. And then remember to disconnect it again when you've finished.
On balance, i'll stick with the built in nav, at least until App Connect becomes a bit more advanced.
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If you set the factory fitted nav up properly and keep the maps up to date then it's perfectly fine. I haven't had any issues at all and even better I've got soeedcams on.
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Its better than it used to be - if you setup carnet for traffic updates.
Its still quite poor at route finding compared to Google/Waze, particularly when it tries to navigate you around the traffic it sees in carnet. If you use Waze you get more than just Nav, you get useful information even when just rolling along with no route set.
Do I still use the VW nav? Sometimes if I haven't remembered to setup AA before I started driving.
Could AppConnect be better? Absolutely and TBH it should have been better already but car OEM's are notorious in being slow to pick up new tech quickly enough.
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Dose it really take 4 hours to update the latest map download onto the cars satnav system?
I’ve been looking up how to do it and which SD cards etc I need.. I’m wondering if it takes 4 hours like the website suggest is it worth it?!?
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Do you have Nav Pro? If so then you're better off with a 32gb class 10 or high speed card. Depending on your tinternet connection it can download in 10 minutes or well over an hour. Unzipping can sometimes take a while but again depends on your computer speed. If you've got standard Nav then you use the card provided with the car. You get free updates so why not update it?
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Dose it really take 4 hours to update the latest map download onto the cars satnav system?
Pretty much yes with NavPro.
Couple of hours to download the data (even on very fast internet), a good hour to write it to a card and another hour plus for the thing to update in the car.
Not that you need to sit and watch most of that though...
You could try and download the map updates over wifi (from your house!) from the car itself using carnet.... I've tried this and never got it to work and you don't get any idea of progress. Don't bother.
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I was referring to the time it takes to update in the car, not the download time. The instructions on VW site suggest you need to have the ignition on for up to four hours while the map updates onto the system.
We have pro nav however it’s 2014 car so might not be as slick as the latest models
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I had a 2014 GTD with NavPro.
The update time was not really an issue, just leave it updating. It will continue when you restart the car.
You don't need to leave the ignition on... I made that mistake the first time I did it.
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I don't use it much but on the few times I have it has been pretty poor. Generally I'll make my own notes from a map to get me 95% to where I want to be and let the nav assist for the last bit (which is usually the tricky part). If I have my co-pilot on board, we'll rely more on her iphone which does seem to be a lot better. I often find the in-built nav will tell you which lane or which exit too late to be of much help. It doesn't do my blood pressure any good :rolleyes:
You do crack me up Watts! Make notes from a map... What with, some chalk and a slate?! :grin:
I normally look at a new journey prior to setting off and stick the car nav on as a guide to help once I get close. The VW system isn't great and sometimes tries to send you on a ridiculous route. Recently tried to send me through a camera controlled bus only zone in Manchester and then a few weeks later told me to go down a one way street, the wrong way. Explains a lot of the idiotic driving you see when the lemmings use their nav for every journey...
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The built in sat nav isn't the most sophisticated, but it always gets me where i need to go to. Using Car Play or Android Auto isn't without its drawbacks;-
You can't run Google Maps or similar in the active info display.
You can't have two mobile phones connected at the same time as App Connect is running. Not a big deal to some, but I have my personal and work phones connected while commuting.
You can't listen to music through anything connected via the aux while App Connect is running. I have an 80gb iPod Classic connected.
App Connect isn't wireless. You have to take your phone out of your pocket each time to connect it to the car. And then remember to disconnect it again when you've finished.
On balance, i'll stick with the built in nav, at least until App Connect becomes a bit more advanced.
Slightly ironic that you won't use ACP because you still want to use a 10+yr technological device over a protocol that makes betamax look modern. You're going to be waiting a long time for them to allow that, perhaps they could drop you a fax when they do... :wink:
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Think what Guzzle is saying is that he is using the available technology in the way most convenient to him. I do pretty much the same, except for having my music on an SD card.
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Think what Guzzle is saying is that he is using the available technology in the way most convenient to him. I do pretty much the same, except for having my music on an SD card.
I don't disagree with that, each person has their own convenience... but it's how that person keeps up with technology v convenience. The 'physical' media format is dead, wether that be a HDD/SD/CD/DVD etc, the now (and future) is streaming via Apps, so that's what you'll get with ACP/AA etc. Apple/Google are not going to invest in making their software compatible with formats/ecosystems that have no compatibility or are dead, they simply provide an alternative which is equal or better. :smiley:
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You do crack me up Watts! Make notes from a map... What with, some chalk and a slate?! :grin:
I normally look at a new journey prior to setting off and stick the car nav on as a guide to help once I get close. The VW system isn't great and sometimes tries to send you on a ridiculous route. Recently tried to send me through a camera controlled bus only zone in Manchester and then a few weeks later told me to go down a one way street, the wrong way. Explains a lot of the idiotic driving you see when the lemmings use their nav for every journey...
Chalk and a slate? Now that is a good idea, enviromentally friendly definitely :whistle: :laugh:
Once when we were stuck in traffic on the A31 in the New Forest, the dumbass nav twice wanted me to take a left to avoid the traffic - onto laybys, then twice more it wanted me to turn off onto rough tracks into the forest that even a murderer with a corpse to dispose would've thought twice of taking :rolleyes: Considering how little I use it, there have been far too many of these stupid directions for them to be considered a rare glitch. Technology my arse. Having said that, my co-pilot's iphone directions were spot on when negotiating our way into Lille once to drop off our hire car, god only knows where we would have ended up if we were relying on the VW nav...
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I assume she was using Google maps on her Iphone and not Apple Maps which is so famously terrible for its ability to get anything right!
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I assume she was using Google maps on her Iphone and not Apple Maps which is so famously terrible for its ability to get anything right!
I've no idea, but it was good and saved us a lot of bother. Mind you, I still needed a few of those great beers they have there :whistle:
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Think what Guzzle is saying is that he is using the available technology in the way most convenient to him. I do pretty much the same, except for having my music on an SD card.
I don't disagree with that, each person has their own convenience... but it's how that person keeps up with technology v convenience. The 'physical' media format is dead, wether that be a HDD/SD/CD/DVD etc, the now (and future) is streaming via Apps, so that's what you'll get with ACP/AA etc. Apple/Google are not going to invest in making their software compatible with formats/ecosystems that have no compatibility or are dead, they simply provide an alternative which is equal or better. :smiley:
Not everyone is that bothered about keeping up with the latest technology. Especially while it's as half baked as App Connect in the Golf currently is.
If a version of it comes along that adds functionality without taking away some of the existing functionality of the built-in system, then I'll use it. But until then, for the odd few times I need to use nav, it just doesn't offer enough functionality in other areas for me to swap.
As for streaming, I spent a lot of money on my music collection. I have no intention of throwing it all in the bin and paying apple / Google / Spotify £10 per month to rent it back again. Nor do I want to give apple a grand, or whatever ludicrous price they charge these days for a phone that holds as much music as my iPod does. Hence I don't use Carplay.
You might think App Connect is the bees knees, but this is the internet, and occasionally you'll bump into someone who has a different opinion. Doesn't mean one of us is wrong, just means we see things differently.
That ok with you? :wink:
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You might think App Connect is the bees knees, but this is the internet, and occasionally you'll bump into someone who has a different opinion. Doesn't mean one of us is wrong, just means we see things differently.
That ok with you? :wink:
Fine by me. :)
With respect though, it does sound like you have limited knowledge about how the Apple/Android ecosystems (and ACP/AA) actually work. You do not need to do any of what you suggest you think you need to do, in order to use ACP/AA with your own music collection or phone or apps etc.
You say you're not happy to not keep up with the latest tech, but at the same time you grumble that the new tech is "half baked" because it doesn't work fully with your 10+ year old technology.
I certainly don't think it's the "bees knees", there's lots of small things that could be improved. But, in the modern day of fast data OD streaming, apps, one device, cloud storage etc, it makes inbuilt systems totally redundant & superfluous, and the best thing is all the minor irritations get ironed out as the interface/software gets updated with every OS release.
Horses for courses. :smiley: