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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: _Mark_ on 26 January 2019, 17:56

Title: Mk7 PP vs Mk7.5 Buying Advice
Post by: _Mark_ on 26 January 2019, 17:56
Hi All,

I've got about £20k to spend and want to get back into a Golf. I have been going around in circles trying to decide what model to get. I only do a few thousand miles a year, no track use, and would be keeping the car as a daily driver for about 10 years.

For my budget I can afford a Mk 7 with performance pack or a Mk 7.5 without performance pack. I like the styling of the Mk7.5 and it would be a newer car but I also like the idea of the LSD on the Mk7. Unfortunately I don't think I can afford a Mk7.5 PP plus the lack of MPI worries me as I want to keep the car for a long time and only do short journeys.

Please help me to make up my mind.

Cheers,

Mark.
Title: Re: Mk7 PP vs Mk7.5 Buying Advice
Post by: Watts on 26 January 2019, 18:23
The PP diff is good to have but it's not essential. Get out and look at some cars, you may or may not like the differences between the 7 and 7.5 such as the digital dash for example. Nothing quite like being in front of the metal. Have you decided on gearbox, wheels, colour etc?
Title: Re: Mk7 PP vs Mk7.5 Buying Advice
Post by: _Mark_ on 26 January 2019, 18:56
Problem I have is that my last car was written off, I've been paid out and have no transport. I'm looking at PH, AT and my local main dealer.

I took a 7.5 manual out for a short test drive and I did like it but I remember in the past when I had FWD cars that they were difficult to get out of junctions fast without spinning the wheels and tons of torque steer. Have things improved since 10-20 years ago or is this why you need an LSD?

I think I will go for the DSG as that's what I'm used to and I read about clutch issues in the manuals. Not sure how true these are but I really don't want the expense of a new clutch in 3 or 4 years time.

Wheels and colour I'm not to fussed about, probably black or white, and 18".
Title: Re: Mk7 PP vs Mk7.5 Buying Advice
Post by: 2007GTI on 26 January 2019, 19:35
I've got a Mk7 non performance DSG, never had any issues at junctions, esp as I have PS4 tyres too, very grippy, no issues.
Title: Re: Mk7 PP vs Mk7.5 Buying Advice
Post by: Aparat on 26 January 2019, 20:58
I would go for 7.5. That is what I did just before Christmas. I had 22k to spend, and decided I can live without lsd and bigger brakes  :cool:, and to me 7.5 looks better
Title: Re: Mk7 PP vs Mk7.5 Buying Advice
Post by: clubsport on 26 January 2019, 21:30
In your position, I would go for the newest 7.5 with the longest warranty and decent spec you can find for your money.

That is from the owner of a mk 7 PP GTi. :)
Title: Re: Mk7 PP vs Mk7.5 Buying Advice
Post by: _Mark_ on 26 January 2019, 22:18
Thanks guys, I am now leaning towards the 7.5.

I guess I won't miss something I never had :undecided:

On a side note, main dealer won't budge on prices, says they're fixed by Das WeltAuto, how true is this?
Title: Re: Mk7 PP vs Mk7.5 Buying Advice
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 26 January 2019, 22:19
You can have for 20k 👍
Title: Re: Mk7 PP vs Mk7.5 Buying Advice
Post by: Mr.Edge1974 on 26 January 2019, 22:25
When I dropped into VW last week they were very difficult in adjusting the price they had a 5 dor 2018 PP they were trying to push on me which was a great car but I'm after a 4 door. Not sure how availability will look in about 5 weeks especially as the new 19 plates will be due.
Title: Re: Mk7 PP vs Mk7.5 Buying Advice
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 26 January 2019, 22:27
Thanks guys, I am now leaning towards the 7.5.

I guess I won't miss something I never had :undecided:

On a side note, main dealer won't budge on prices, says they're fixed by Das WeltAuto, how true is this?

Places like Evans Halshaw and Das Welt are pretty firm on price in my experience. I always like to try and get my car's from a enthusiast if I can, it takes longer but I'm very picky and don't mind traveling all over the UK for the right car. My mates think I'm weird but there you go.
Title: Re: Mk7 PP vs Mk7.5 Buying Advice
Post by: Mr.Edge1974 on 26 January 2019, 22:42
Nothing weird about at all. Remember it's a big purchase,  which will be mine this year as well as I have had my R32 for 14 years ! I've only started looking this year as I really need to upgrade and I just love the overall paclage of the GTI PP.
Title: Re: Mk7 PP vs Mk7.5 Buying Advice
Post by: Exonian on 26 January 2019, 23:16
Whether the Performance Pack is worth it or not depends on your driving style and the type of roads you use.
If it’s all around town then it won’t be of much benefit aside from the bigger brakes once in a while.
If it’s more open road then the diff comes into its own and the bigger brakes are far more reassuring.


Title: Re: Mk7 PP vs Mk7.5 Buying Advice
Post by: Yusee on 26 January 2019, 23:22
I do the same. I’ve travelled to Belfast- twice- from the midlands- to buy cars I want.
Title: Re: Mk7 PP vs Mk7.5 Buying Advice
Post by: buddfridge on 27 January 2019, 05:27
I was considering this beauty but ordered new.

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Title: Re: Mk7 PP vs Mk7.5 Buying Advice
Post by: 2007GTI on 27 January 2019, 17:14
This is b.s. Das Welt is just the scheme every VW franchise dealer sells cars under, dealers set their own prices.

And every stealer is a greedy c*nt, and they know good second hand GTIs are in short supply at the moment, due to WLTP hold ups, less trade ins, so they are being extra firm on prices. They track every phone call and website click, so they know punters are out there, they just sit and wait unfortunately. You might get a couple of hundred off (as I did) if you can find any faults, like low tyre tread or scratches.

Good luck.

Thanks guys, I am now leaning towards the 7.5.

I guess I won't miss something I never had :undecided:

On a side note, main dealer won't budge on prices, says they're fixed by Das WeltAuto, how true is this?
Title: Re: Mk7 PP vs Mk7.5 Buying Advice
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 27 January 2019, 18:29
Whilst prices are ‘fixed’, you will find there won’t be much run to haggle. These days it’s so easy to compare prices online that dealers pretty much have to price to their cars to sell. Might get some extra chucked in but you certainly won’t be walking in and getting a chunk off a used car.

As for deciding which to get. I’ve had both Mk7.5 GTI versions and wouldn’t say there is a huge difference between them. Brakes feel no different, power increase is hard to tell although current one does feel genuinely quick. But them my first one never felt slow. Perhaps diff is main benefit in that you can get the power down better. Personally I’d get the facelift over the Mk7 as it just looks a bit fresher especially if you’re keeping it some time. But probably wouldn’t go wrong either way.