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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: R1JIM on 26 January 2019, 16:33
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Oh what a disappointment, out for a blast today I came up behind a new Hyundai i30N , as we came onto a roundabout leading onto a long dual carriageway I took the outside lane and intended to spank him off the roundabout,
I was totally prepared, sport mode , foot planted and off we went , that bloody thing was pulling away from me at an unbelievable rate , we hit 120 and he was leaving me big time . Carried on for another mile or so and I gave up and let him go ...... how embarrassing
I do a lot of track days and yes I can use the performance the GTI PP has but was totally spanked
I haven’t posted this to get lectured on responsible driving etc etc , it was a dual carriageway with no junctions for nearly 3 miles and there was very little traffic .
The post is to enlighten fellow fast car enthusiasts on the strength of the competition out there now ...
2018 Golf GTI PP v Hyundai i30N , not a good result VW ...more power required!!!
Anyone else had a similar experience?
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I had a play with one a few months back and didn't have any issues in my hearse. Most are around 270 as the lower power ones don't get specced much apparently
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It might have been fettled...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=1760883
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The golf is never going to be the fastest production car on the road, its faster than most and as an all rounder about the best at what it does.
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Very true Budd , and that’s why I have one , But Hyundai......
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It was the colour of your car that made the difference, red is always faster :whistle: :laugh:
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I haven’t posted this to get lectured on responsible driving etc etc , it was a dual carriageway with no junctions for nearly 3 miles and there was very little traffic .
The post is to enlighten fellow fast car enthusiasts on the strength of the competition out there now ...
2018 Golf GTI PP v Hyundai i30N , not a good result VW ...more power required!!!
Anyone else had a similar experience?
Hyundai? You mean this manufacturer:
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/9410883067b4a2bd9d2b03addc743da5/tumblr_ozocdwVBYJ1tzosfgo1_540.gif)
Loeb is racing with them now and they have some excellent engineers so I'd expect this knowledge to flow into the road car development. I understand what you're saying and I'd never buy one but they have to offer better value to entice buyers. GTI is a package and much more than just power.
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Ah red , that was the problem :smiley:
That rally car looks sick ..... :laugh:
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I found the interior plasticky and a bit naff in the i30N and the suspension was also rock hard.
It's basically just focused on being fast whereas the GTi is the better all round package, if i was 20 years younger the i30N would be my choice but now i'm in my 40's the GTi suits me much better :whistle:
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REMAP TIME :smiley:
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I found the interior plasticky and a bit naff in the i30N and the suspension was also rock hard.
It's basically just focused on being fast whereas the GTi is the better all round package, if i was 20 years younger the i30N would be my choice but now i'm in my 40's the GTi suits me much better :whistle:
The i30N performance has adaptive dampers so that should help unless you only drove the standard i30n?
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I found the interior plasticky and a bit naff in the i30N and the suspension was also rock hard.
It's basically just focused on being fast whereas the GTi is the better all round package, if i was 20 years younger the i30N would be my choice but now i'm in my 40's the GTi suits me much better :whistle:
The i30N performance has adaptive dampers so that should help unless you only drove the standard i30n?
It had the adaptive dampers but was still too uncomfortable for me, could have got it for a decent price but just preferred the GTi tbh.
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I found the interior plasticky and a bit naff in the i30N and the suspension was also rock hard.
It's basically just focused on being fast whereas the GTi is the better all round package, if i was 20 years younger the i30N would be my choice but now i'm in my 40's the GTi suits me much better :whistle:
The i30N performance has adaptive dampers so that should help unless you only drove the standard i30n?
It had the adaptive dampers but was still too uncomfortable for me, could have got it for a decent price but just preferred the GTi tbh.
Can’t believe it has adaptive dampers! The ride was a deal breaker for me. Unbearable on normal roads.
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The i30 is quicker to 60 and has more power than the GTi - why are your surprised ?
250 or 275ps.
Fetches keys to Clubsport smugly...
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The i30 is quicker to 60 and has more power than the GTi - why are your surprised ?
250 or 275ps.
Fetches keys to Clubsport smugly...
Don't forget to let the i30n owners know in advance that you will only be able to race in 10second intervals ... :wink:
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The i30 is quicker to 60 and has more power than the GTi - why are your surprised ?
250 or 275ps.
Fetches keys to Clubsport smugly...
Don't forget to let the i30n owners know in advance that you will only be able to race in 10second intervals ... :wink:
Oooooo, haha!
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Since when has it mattered who has the fastest car?
Surely if you wanted a quick car, you would have bought something much faster than a hot hatch? No, I'd guess you bought the Golf for it's all round ability and with that is bound to come compromise.
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The i30 is quicker to 60 and has more power than the GTi - why are your surprised ?
250 or 275ps.
Fetches keys to Clubsport smugly...
Don't forget to let the i30n owners know in advance that you will only be able to race in 10second intervals ... :wink:
Oooooo, haha!
True but untested! Besides 10 seconds of full power takes takes you to what speed? Backing off speed!
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Since when has it mattered who has the fastest car?
Surely if you wanted a quick car, you would have bought something much faster than a hot hatch? No, I'd guess you bought the Golf for it's all round ability and with that is bound to come compromise.
Agreed, you don't buy a Golf GTI if you want a fast car.
That said, I had a small acceleration test on a private road a while ago with an RS3 Saloon (facelift, 400bhp). We both were doing about 75 and he had a car in front, which pulled over and we both went for it. He pulled away, but not as quickly as I thought he would. I saw 145 so I'm guessing he was going a fair bit quicker :shocked:
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That said, I had a small acceleration test on a private road a while ago with an RS3 Saloon (facelift, 400bhp). We both were doing about 75 and he had a car in front, which pulled over and we both went for it. He pulled away, but not as quickly as I thought he would. I saw 145 so I'm guessing he was going a fair bit quicker :shocked:
TBH, "quick" is relative really. Yes on a race track the RS3 would probably find a second or two on your Golf per lap. In real world terms, not so much as you'd notice (he might arrive at the chip shop say 20 seconds before you do) but in racing terms... you are utterly smashed.
I think that's what people forget... real world vs racing.
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That said, I had a small acceleration test on a private road a while ago with an RS3 Saloon (facelift, 400bhp). We both were doing about 75 and he had a car in front, which pulled over and we both went for it. He pulled away, but not as quickly as I thought he would. I saw 145 so I'm guessing he was going a fair bit quicker :shocked:
TBH, "quick" is relative really. Yes on a race track the RS3 would probably find a second or two on your Golf per lap. In real world terms, not so much as you'd notice (he might arrive at the chip shop say 20 seconds before you do) but in racing terms... you are utterly smashed.
I think that's what people forget... real world vs racing.
Yes, lots of factors in these situations. He did arrive at the round 2 miles later at exactly the same time as me and we had a little wave/thumbs up!
To the OP, I wouldn't have thought there would actually be much difference between a stock i30N and GTI performance so maybe as suggested it wasn't standard. A Stage 1 should avoid future disappointed :smiley:
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....To the OP, I wouldn't have thought there would actually be much difference between a stock i30N and GTI performance so maybe as suggested it wasn't standard.
True. i30n is marginally more powerful but carries a fair whack more weight than the GTI. From memory they are ~1480kg? So on the road performance should be very close.
At the end of the day, it doesn't much matter. The i30n driver is probably still complaining about losing all his fillings. :wink:
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The i30N performance has got 275hp so 30 more than the pp golf. It's torque figures aren't as high though.
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Don't forget to let the i30n owners know in advance that you will only be able to race in 10second intervals ... :wink:
Not necessary as with the exception of the Autobahn, you won't be able to use the throttle for 10 sec non stop on any public road. Definitely not possible in most tracks either. And by the way, the moment you lift off the overboost counter resets so...
Also, BMS dyno'ed a Clubsport with the overboost on and off, the difference was less than 10hp and always over 280 :whistle:
@OP: If it was pulling away so fast in a straight line then most definitely it was mapped or running a piggy. Despite the extra bhp the in-gear acceleration numbers of the i30N in tests were not as impressive as the numbers suggested so it should have been much closer. If this had been on a twisty b-road I'd say it would be normal as even stock it should be able to carry more speed with a half decent driver. But 2.0 TSIs have great delivery and generally punch a bit above their weight.
PS. If you worry about performance, as others have said a stock GTI is nothing impressive by today's standards. Has excellent potential though.