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Title: Main Beam Control doesn’t work
Post by: Yusee on 29 December 2018, 08:31
Took delivery of new GTI PP last weekend. It has dynamic cornering lights which, as I understand, should include main beam control.
The cornering lights work fine but I can’t seem to get the main beam control to work- I have to manually dip the headlights when vehicles ahead, and no “A” in instrument cluster to indicate it is on.
I have checked headlight function is “ auto “, speed has reached 37mph, travel mode is “L- hand traffic “, driver mode is “sport”. I have tried turning dynamic cornering light function on and off in the settings menu but still can’t get main beam control to work.
Have I missed something, should the car be equipped with this function or is there a fault?
Any advice would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Main Beam Control doesn’t work
Post by: kmpowell on 29 December 2018, 08:45
Dynamic Curve Lighting does not include Dynamic Light Assist. So is your car a MY18 or MY19?

On MY18 it was an option (in conjunction with Dynamic Lane Assist), but for MY19 the Lane assist and Dynamic Light assist is now standard on the Performance (still an option on the normal 230 GTI).
Title: Re: Main Beam Control doesn’t work
Post by: Yusee on 29 December 2018, 08:58
It must be MY18- though when I collected, i was given another brochure for my car with the full MY19 spec ( though it doesn’t have lane Assist/camera/keyless).
I do know it was a week 46 build.
It’s all a bit confusing what it does and doesn’t have. Sounds like it’s a MY18, which you are saying won’t have main beam control?
Title: Re: Main Beam Control doesn’t work
Post by: kmpowell on 29 December 2018, 09:02
It must be MY18- though when I collected, i was given another brochure for my car with the full MY19 spec ( though it doesn’t have lane Assist/camera/keyless).
I do know it was a week 46 build.
It’s all a bit confusing what it does and doesn’t have. Sounds like it’s a MY18, which you are saying won’t have main beam control?
If it doesn't have Assist/Camera/Keyless then it's a MY18 car, and sadly Dynamic Light Assist was an option. Here's the MY18 brochure page (bottom row) which gives detail of what was included in the option...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Kc6Ctk3W/Screenshot-2018-12-29-at-08-53-22.png) (https://postimg.cc/z3kdrfjw)

It is that option which is now standard on the MY19 Performance.
Title: Re: Main Beam Control doesn’t work
Post by: Finglonga on 29 December 2018, 09:22
No camera means no Headlight assist. It is crap anyway so you are not missing anything. Too slow to react and that is when it does eventually.
Title: Re: Main Beam Control doesn’t work
Post by: Yusee on 29 December 2018, 09:26
Thanks very much for that. It’s a a useful option on the family Alhambra, but i’m sure i’ manage without.
Great pics of your Isaac Blue car, btw- very nice
It must be MY18- though when I collected, i was given another brochure for my car with the full MY19 spec ( though it doesn’t have lane Assist/camera/keyless).
I do know it was a week 46 build.
It’s all a bit confusing what it does and doesn’t have. Sounds like it’s a MY18, which you are saying won’t have main beam control?
If it doesn't have Assist/Camera/Keyless then it's a MY18 car, and sadly Dynamic Light Assist was an option. Here's the MY18 brochure page (bottom row) which gives detail of what was included in the option...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Kc6Ctk3W/Screenshot-2018-12-29-at-08-53-22.png) (https://postimg.cc/z3kdrfjw)

It is that option which is now standard on the MY19 Performance.
Title: Re: Main Beam Control doesn’t work
Post by: Sootchucker on 29 December 2018, 09:49
You can tell if your car has dynamic light assist by the fact that when low beams are on, all 4 headlights are on (both the inners and the outers on both sides). Without DLA, only the outside headlamp units on each side are functional on low beam.
Title: Re: Main Beam Control doesn’t work
Post by: wantmygti on 29 December 2018, 10:03
I have had success in activating high beam assist in a 2017 audi Q5 via OBDEleven. For £125 I doubt they are adding any hardware to the car so it should be easy to enable.
Title: Re: Main Beam Control doesn’t work
Post by: mcmaddy on 29 December 2018, 11:04
I'm sure it uses a different camera so it won't just be a tick box exercise.
Title: Re: Main Beam Control doesn’t work
Post by: Yusee on 29 December 2018, 11:25
You can tell if your car has dynamic light assist by the fact that when low beams are on, all 4 headlights are on (both the inners and the outers on both sides). Without DLA, only the outside headlamp units on each side are functional on low beam.


Just checked mine- only outers on so no DLA.
I did notice when I was driving that i do have sign post recognition. Seems a bit arbitrary to me!
Title: Re: Main Beam Control doesn’t work
Post by: kmpowell on 29 December 2018, 12:33
I did notice when I was driving that i do have sign post recognition.
Are you sure? On MY18 traffic sign recognition was only ever available with the Lane Assist option, you couldn't spec it separately. So if you have this then perhaps you do have the pack afterall?!? :huh:

Great pics of your Isaac Blue car, btw- very nice
Thanks  :smiley:
Title: Re: Main Beam Control doesn’t work
Post by: Yusee on 29 December 2018, 12:48
i am definitely getting the speed limit signs in the Nav display as I drive-?I assume this is traffic sign recognition?
Seems accurate- “40” sign comes as soon as I drive into 40 area.
I don’t know whether this involves GPS or camera.
Title: Re: Main Beam Control doesn’t work
Post by: maxie on 29 December 2018, 14:44
my dla is great, seems to be just as quick as a normal person would be..  just push the stalk forward and jobs a good one, with me being disabled having dla means i no longer have to drive at night using just dip :) so thumbs up here..
Title: Re: Main Beam Control doesn’t work
Post by: wantmygti on 29 December 2018, 14:52
I'm sure it uses a different camera so it won't just be a tick box exercise.

I think it’s the same camera that is used for speed sign recognition.
Title: Re: Main Beam Control doesn’t work
Post by: Watts on 29 December 2018, 18:30
i am definitely getting the speed limit signs in the Nav display as I drive-?I assume this is traffic sign recognition?
Seems accurate- “40” sign comes as soon as I drive into 40 area.
I don’t know whether this involves GPS or camera.

That might just be the satnav as my 2015 displays the speed limits and is very accurate at changes.
Title: Re: Main Beam Control doesn’t work
Post by: Yusee on 29 December 2018, 20:48
i am definitely getting the speed limit signs in the Nav display as I drive-?I assume this is traffic sign recognition?
Seems accurate- “40” sign comes as soon as I drive into 40 area.
I don’t know whether this involves GPS or camera.

That might just be the satnav as my 2015 displays the speed limits and is very accurate at changes.

Yeah, i’m sure you’re right- it’s just the gps data. I certainly don’t have sign assist in my vehicle settings menu. At least I know what I have now. Thanks for replies.
Title: Re: Main Beam Control doesn’t work
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 29 December 2018, 21:33
Jeez, 2 pages of talking about a car that doesn't have an option?! Std sat nav shows speed limit signs.
Title: Re: Main Beam Control doesn’t work
Post by: WatchThis on 03 January 2019, 11:41
my dla is great, seems to be just as quick as a normal person would be..  just push the stalk forward and jobs a good one, with me being disabled having dla means i no longer have to drive at night using just dip :) so thumbs up here..
Same here - And it's quite mesmerising watching it do its stuff. Very pleased, not at all slow and I'd certainly order it again.   
Title: Re: Main Beam Control doesn’t work
Post by: Daz Auto on 03 January 2019, 13:18
I had to order lane assist to get DLA. Both systems use a camera which is installed on the windscreen in front of the rear view mirror. You can see the camera opening if you stand in front of the car.

Don't confuse DLA with Dynamic Curve Lighting which is fitted as standard.

I also would not worry about DLA. I find it a quirky system. See below...

my dla is great, seems to be just as quick as a normal person would be..  just push the stalk forward and jobs a good one, with me being disabled having dla means i no longer have to drive at night using just dip :) so thumbs up here..
Same here - And it's quite mesmerising watching it do its stuff. Very pleased, not at all slow and I'd certainly order it again.

Don't get me wrong, I like my Dynamic Light Assist. However...

... I see it as a semi automatic system with much room for improvement. It will blind drivers sitting at junctions. It will blind lorry drivers. It switches off when it is raining. It appears to confuse other drivers.

I used to try and be courteous and dip before corners. This resulted in me being frequently flashed! Now I just allow the system to blind the other driver for a split second so they know my car had dipped.

I certainly wouldn't recommend this current system for my wife's car. It's just not 'there' yet. However...

My sister has Mercedes multibeam on her car. It looks like a much more advanced next gen system. Audi now have the Matrix HD system. Hopefully we will see something similar fitted to the Mk8 Golf.

Edit: when DLA is working properly it is really, really good. :cool:
Title: Re: Main Beam Control doesn’t work
Post by: Daz Auto on 03 January 2019, 13:32
Here we go...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIruP5GfN-s

That is a next gen headlight system fitted to the new VW towrag (spelling, I know :evil:)

Title: Re: Main Beam Control doesn’t work
Post by: Daz Auto on 03 January 2019, 13:44
I just had a look at the configurator for the VW Touareg. The IQ. Light - LED Matrix headlights are a £1420 option.

I do remember paying nearly £1200 just to get Xenon headlight on my Mk6 GTD. It was something similar to add Xenon lights to our A3.

So I would say IQ Matrix headlights are worth it. They certainly make my Dynamic Light Assist look really basic by comparison.
Title: Re: Main Beam Control doesn’t work
Post by: Dre1973 on 03 January 2019, 21:02
You can tell if your car has dynamic light assist by the fact that when low beams are on, all 4 headlights are on (both the inners and the outers on both sides). Without DLA, only the outside headlamp units on each side are functional on low beam.


Just checked mine- only outers on so no DLA.
I did notice when I was driving that i do have sign post recognition. Seems a bit arbitrary to me!

How did you notice the sign post recognition?
Title: Re: Main Beam Control doesn’t work
Post by: Yusee on 03 January 2019, 21:25
I didn’t. Nav was displaying speeds, I thought it was reading road signs.Apologies
Title: Re: Main Beam Control doesn’t work
Post by: Dre1973 on 04 January 2019, 17:14
I didn’t. Nav was displaying speeds, I thought it was reading road signs.Apologies

No apologies needed I was curious as I had seen the speed sign but thought it was just part of the sat nav not sign post recognition