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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Jim_mk7.5 on 30 October 2018, 21:37
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Just read this review - https://www.evo.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/21882/volkswagen-e-golf-review-does-the-electric-golf-have-electric-performance?_mout=1&utm_campaign=evo_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter
Must admit, not been following the full electrics for VW. But really, this seems like a serious waste of money and resources to even build it?
100 mile real world range?? 0-60 in 9.6 secs. 1615kgs. £32k for the base model. The Tesla3 isn't going to be hugely more expensive than that and I'm sure will get to 60 faster going backwards than this Golf.
As the article suggests, the issue is fitting a car designed for combustion with all electric power as opposed to designing an electric car from the ground up as Tesla does.
Main stream manufacturers are going to have try harder than this if they want to tempt people to go green.
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I thought that had been out for a while.... or did it get put back?
They've all got someway to go before I'd consider one though. Its too early for it IMHO and the lack of charging points needs fixing before you see me try it too.
I'd imagine the charging points will need to be something different by then too to support much faster charging.
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One thing over the Tesla will be the fit and finish. Every Tesla I've seen looks like it's been put together by Stevie Wonder. Once mainstream manufacturers start building these no one will even look at Tesla.
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One thing over the Tesla will be the fit and finish. Every Tesla I've seen looks like it's been put together by Stevie Wonder. Once mainstream manufacturers start building these no one will even look at Tesla.
"Made in America" I think covers it.
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I looked at the Tesla 3 briefly but it's looking like it will retail for $80,000. Double what it was supposed to originally.
I'm sure we'll all end up with electric cars one day but it is still too early for me. Electric cars are too expensive.
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They also depreciate quite heavily. I suspect that 2nd hand buyers are put off by potential battery replacement issues in the future.
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Depreciation in this tech is steep. Partly because of the battery replacement fear, partly because the tech is rapidly changing at this stage and the future mass market versions are not clear yet.
I think a lot will change before we get to a truly usable design.
If you buy an E-Golf with its 100 mile range and in 5 years time every electric vehicle does 250 miles, who would buy your E-Golf? Additionally if charging becomes possible in 3 hours, your E-Golf will be sh1t too.
Its advancing far quicker than petrol engine cars do at the moment - probably more akin to the early days of cars.
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I looked at the Tesla 3 briefly but it's looking like it will retail for $80,000. Double what it was supposed to originally.
I'm sure we'll all end up with electric cars one day but it is still too early for me. Electric cars are too expensive.
Not sure where you've got that from? Looking at around £40k for UK but that will be base model. A C Class or 3 Series can quite easily be £40k these days.
Electric cars are't tooexpensive, they are just more expensive due to the technology.
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I was talking to someone with a Nissan Leaf a little while ago and they were saying that an electric car has far less servicing costs than a petrol one. No oil changes, no filter changes, no exhaust to rot... I hadn't really thought of this until they said it.
Quite probably the tyres last longer too - well, longer than us performance dino burners here get through them anyway... plus they are all skinny tyres not low profile wide ones like we use.
It *might* offset the increased price over say 5 years you know... assuming the battery replacement thing doesn't happen and the depreciation.... oh I don't know!
Sounds like a finance question for MonkeyHanger :D
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Nope the tyres don't last longer. We have a golf GTE in my company and it eats tyres due to the extra weight. They aren't skinny either just a similar size to a GTD or GTI.
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Ok, but the high profile skinny tyres are cheaper than low profile wide ones yes?
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I was talking to someone with a Nissan Leaf a little while ago and they were saying that an electric car has far less servicing costs than a petrol one. No oil changes, no filter changes, no exhaust to rot... I hadn't really thought of this until they said it.
Quite probably the tyres last longer too - well, longer than us performance dino burners here get through them anyway... plus they are all skinny tyres not low profile wide ones like we use.
It *might* offset the increased price over say 5 years you know... assuming the battery replacement thing doesn't happen and the depreciation.... oh I don't know!
Sounds like a finance question for MonkeyHanger :D
My mate has a Tesla Model S. Nothing to service. They even replace stuff like wipers for free. And depreciation isn't as bad you'd think. They are holding their money quite well for the more desirable models. As a company for tax purposes you can write the full value off in the first year which can be appealing.
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I was talking to someone with a Nissan Leaf a little while ago and they were saying that an electric car has far less servicing costs than a petrol one. No oil changes, no filter changes, no exhaust to rot... I hadn't really thought of this until they said it.
Quite probably the tyres last longer too - well, longer than us performance dino burners here get through them anyway... plus they are all skinny tyres not low profile wide ones like we use.
It *might* offset the increased price over say 5 years you know... assuming the battery replacement thing doesn't happen and the depreciation.... oh I don't know!
Sounds like a finance question for MonkeyHanger :D
I don't think you'll save any money on tyres - even the mundane electric vehicles are surprisingly nippy 0-62 mph due to instant availability of full power and torque - the quickest variant of Tesla model S will leave an Audi RS6 for dead 0-80mph. Anything with 0-62 under 7 seconds is going to be wearing tyres pretty quick. Always wodered why the lical Nissan garage charges £150 a service for a leaf when there's seemingly nowt to do but check a battery's health and a few visual checks on suspension components etc.
Saving a hundred quid every service over a petrol/diesel car isn't going to save you much vs steep depreciation these electric cars will have until the tech reaches maturity and the battery isn't done in at 6 years old with a huge replacement cost.
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Makes more sense to lease an electric car. Batteries will cost £10000+ to replace unless batteries improve and reduce in price I'm never going that route. A hybrid option appeals more.
All imho of course.
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Its an interesting point, so I googled it.
Found this:
https://ez-ev.com/tips/electric-cars-vs-gas-maintenance-battery-cost
If what that says is true, that you can expect 8 years or 100,000 miles before the battery cost is your problem.... then its largely irrelevant for most of us.
A petrol car with 100k on it isn't worth much and probably needs a hell of a lot of work on it... I don't think its likely to be a major issue for most of us here...
On the other hand, at the cheap end of the 2nd hand car market, it does change things rather a lot in the future IMHO.