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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: P6GTD on 27 October 2018, 21:26
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Am I alone in feeling that the Mk7 GTI forum is starting to lose impetus?
Go back even 12 months and the topics and respondents were vigorous.
Now? A bit passive. Or passé?
Why?
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I was starting to think the same. I guess it’s inevitable with an aging model. All the issues have been done to death and all the mods have been covered. The Mark 7 has turned out to be a pretty good version of the Golf, though, hasn’t it? Still looks fresh and no particularly awful problems.
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Agree with your comments about the Mk7 being a good version of the golf. My Clubsport still stands out and turns heads. 😁👍🏻
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And while I am sticking my neck out, can I gently say this forum is surely for owners of GTIs.
Not GTDs, not Rs and especially not any other kind of Golf.
Sorry if I sound like Trump or Tommy Robinson. I’m most certainly not of that persuasion but I do think the forum needs to do what it says on the tin.
I’ll get me coat!
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Oh, and in case anyone mentions the Mk8, can I just say how excited I am about my new 7.5 245hp DSG arriving early next year!
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Aren't forums in general slowing down with other options for group discussions these days? I suppose many have sold and moved on now the MK7 is older.
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Just to show my age, what are the other options?
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Please don’t say Facebook!
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It just doesn't seem very active forum, nobody posts anything after 11pm. I was/still am on Briskoda and I find that really good.
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Try being a member of the XR forum..members section, come and introduce yourself.....2.5 views! the half is where someones cat has pressed the keyboard by mistake :sad:
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Well I have an R so that’s me out. Although we still have the slightly+ Inferior GTI so that’s ok I guess.
Btw I certainly would not be ordering a new 7.5 at this or in the last 6 months. But buying used or a clubsprort.
My 7.5 is May 2017 and guess we won’t see the 8 R until May 2020? Based on that folks wii be getting the ‘old’ model GTI within a year of the new one arriving not sure that makes financial sense.
But hey each to their own.
Maybe start a 7.5 forum to stimulate the one :smiley:
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CHB - and others, firstly let me apologise for my comment about non-GTI posters. It was rude and I withdraw it completely.
Why have I ordered a 245 for 3/19? Well, we all make judgements based on knowns and unknowns and here is my rationale which might be way out!
Mk8 Golf starts building Summer 19, first models arrive Autumn 19 ...maybe.
GTI orders open when?? and first deliveries maybe some time in 2020. No info on performance Golfs until sometime in 2019. Decent discounts for first 12m of orders?....doubtful, I fear.
In the meantime because of forthcoming Mk8,WLTP, factory delays and UK economic uncertainty, I suspect 2018 GTI orders have fallen of a cliff. There will be very few late 18 and even fewer 2019 GTIs built. Residuals on late cars are pretty firm already.
If Brexit goes badly there may be additional tariffs on new VWs after 29/3/19.
And finally, I change my car every 2 years so due to do that in March 19. I bought my present Mk7 with £5,000 discount so it cost £23,000. Current valuation is £19,000 ish so quite good so far at the 18m/16,000 miles mark.
I am saving £5,000 off list on my new order so CTC will be tolerable. If I waited for a Mk8 in 2020 ??? my CTC would be impossible to countenance.
I have made a set of assumptions listed above, any or all of which could be very wrong. However, based on all these, I reckon a good 2019 245 will still be holding its value in 2020/21 and I will have had the pleasure of upgrading from a 220 to a 245 DSG to drive in the next two years.
On the other hand I might have got this wrong!
Anyway, I send peace to all readers.
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Thing is I do a search for something if I need to find something out instead of asking a new question about it. So it is your own fault for telling people they should use the search function. :grin:
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Maybe the forum site needs a complete rebuild to bring it into 2018 in terms of websites?! I was on a S2000 one about 11 years ago and it's almost the same. Technology has changed a lot in that time. I imagine people get annoyed with the dated tech.
But definitely seems to have slowed down in the last year, sure it was more active when I joined in May 2017.
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Maybe the forum site needs a complete rebuild to bring it into 2018 in terms of websites?! I was on a S2000 one about 11 years ago and it's almost the same. Technology has changed a lot in that time. I imagine people get annoyed with the dated tech.
But definitely seems to have slowed down in the last year, sure it was more active when I joined in May 2017.
The T-Roc and Tiguan forums are much more 2018
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Maybe the forum site needs a complete rebuild to bring it into 2018 in terms of websites?! I was on a S2000 one about 11 years ago and it's almost the same. Technology has changed a lot in that time. I imagine people get annoyed with the dated tech.
But definitely seems to have slowed down in the last year, sure it was more active when I joined in May 2017.
The T-Roc and Tiguan forums are much more 2018
The seatcupra.net forum is also much more 2018.
I think that the stage at which the mk7.5 Golf is in it’s lifecycle is also contributing to fewer posts and fewer new members, plus some forum members may have moved on to other VW models or other manufacturers cars, so may not contribute to this forum’s discussions now.
I dare say when VW officially launches the mk8, there’ll be increased activity again but maybe not on the mk7 forum board; it’ll be on the new mk8 forum board (lots of discussion on specs, price, lead times etc, etc.) I seem to remember the same thing happened when the mk7 was launched - lots of activity on the mk7 board and decreasing activity on the mk6 forum board. How many mk7/7.5 members who previously owned a mk6 visit and contribute on the mk6 forum board? Probably not many (very little activity in the mk6 section these days).
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I think its just the Mk7 is coming to the end of its life but not made the leap into the old falling apart classic car chats you see on the Mk5 forum yet...
Sooner or later it will stop being about order options and more about replacing rusting panels...
On a more positive note, this forum still has some life - I've not looked over the weekend and there are about ten threads with new posts - pretty good IMHO.
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In all honesty, I find people discussing colours and spec all a bit dull. These things are subjective and I don't feel the need to discuss such things with people that I don't know.
I also don't get why people have to be congratulated upon sharing the news that they have ordered or had a new car delivered. Why does buying a product require gratification from others? Perhaps it's this day and age of people needing facebook likes or strava kudos as if whatever they have done needs to be recognised? It was certainly not like that 10 years ago.
What is interesting are technical topics relating to how things work and modifications. There is not much of this involved in newer models tho' as most of the topics relate to purchasing and cleaning. Technical topics relating to older models will have been covered over and over again. There won't be anything new to report, so there's little point in saying what's been said before and is archived for people to search for.
I guess much of this is contributing to the demise of forums all over.
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It's probably because I've stopped asking questions :D :D
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In all honesty, I find people discussing colours and spec all a bit dull. These things are subjective and I don't feel the need to discuss such things with people that I don't know.
I also don't get why people have to be congratulated upon sharing the news that they have ordered or had a new car delivered. Why does buying a product require gratification from others? Perhaps it's this day and age of people needing facebook likes or strava kudos as if whatever they have done needs to be recognised? It was certainly not like that 10 years ago.
What is interesting are technical topics relating to how things work and modifications. There is not much of this involved in newer models tho' as most of the topics relate to purchasing and cleaning. Technical topics relating to older models will have been covered over and over again. There won't be anything new to report, so there's little point in saying what's been said before and is archived for people to search for.
I guess much of this is contributing to the demise of forums all over.
I think all that makes sense. Also feel like generally a lot of current forum members are against modifying anything though... God forbid anyone would want their GTI to sound louder :grin:
Also maybe VW have evolved the GTI so much that there aren't many things to go wrong.
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All forums seem to run out of steam but never the less I think this forum the Golf GTI FORUM.CO.UK has been of great help to myself in just over my one year of membership. My Golf Mk 7.5 GTI PP DSG will be one year old in November and I am still loving the car very much like from the first day I collected it from the showroom.
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I'm usually one for doing a few mods etc but the car is so good out the box I don't really know where to start. Anyone on here had a little tinker?
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I'm usually one for doing a few mods etc but the car is so good out the box I don't really know where to start. Anyone on here had a little tinker?
Pedal box!
That ^ should be good for another 100 posts or so! :wink:
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:grin: :grin: :grin:
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Definitely a pedal box! Only 99 to go....
Audi short shifter is very good, easy to fit and cheap if you have a manual. Looks 100% oem too...
Red footwell leds also look good.
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Definitely a pedal box! Only 99 to go....
Audi short shifter is very good, easy to fit and cheap if you have a manual. Looks 100% oem too...
Red footwell leds also look good.
I always think the very short 'Auto' shifters on the mercs look good. They are almost flush with the bulkhead
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Definitely a pedal box! Only 99 to go....
Audi short shifter is very good, easy to fit and cheap if you have a manual. Looks 100% oem too...
Red footwell leds also look good.
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Does the Audi short shifter reduce the oem shift's notchiness, Watts? Mine is occassionally a little too mechanical feeling for my liking.
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Does the Audi short shifter reduce the oem shift's notchiness, Watts? Mine is occassionally a little too mechanical feeling for my liking.
No. But it does improve the feel, more precise. I've also replaced the plastic cable bracket and rubber bushes for metal (Audi part again) and solid bushes. Minimal difference, would probably just change the lever if starting again.
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Got a photo of the Audi part fitted?
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Got a photo of the Audi part fitted?
(https://i.postimg.cc/mg6mqsZv/20171102-151344.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VJn9r2Cg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/8c2zszgY/20180720-151259.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vxvsNMB7)
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Probably one of the more worthwhile mods.
If I had any degree of competence, I would love to fit the Audi short shifter :smiley:
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4 pages in 3 days about whether the forum is still relevant :huh:
I visit this great forum most days, whether much has been posted or not. Even though I'm not really interested in doing any mods.
Still a top source of valuable info and banter :smiley:
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Aren't forums in general slowing down with other options for group discussions these days? I suppose many have sold and moved on now the MK7 is older.
Totally agree, all the forums I use seem to be going the same way. For a while I thought it was because people got abused for asking "stupid" questions therefore they simply stopped asking but I think there is more to it. Looks like forums are being left behind.
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The R forum is far more lively than the humble GTI forum.
I can think of many reasons why.
This forum section is more personable than many forums due to compactness and it’s nice that it’s a blend of GTI, GTD and R owners.
The R came of age in mk7 guise, the GTD was *the* company car of choice a few years ago and the mk7 GTI seems to live in their shadow a bit.
As we near the end of the model cycle it’s got a bit quiet. Many more vocal members have moved on, other members are just treading water, most of the modders go for the R as it’s a far more accomplished package to modify when you take into account issues of transmitting 300 plus BHP to tarmac. The most recent good lease deals were R estates so the fresh blood headed over to the R forum...
I do see far more late model GTIs around now which means the GTI is fighting back against the R and GTD, just maybe the new generation of leasers and owners aren’t forum type enthusiasts.
It’s self generating though. If people come up with good lively topics the forum soon springs back to life.
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Exonian:-
Pretty much everything you can think of which is car related has been done to death.
Common faults
MPG
Waits for builds
Facelift/new variants
DSG vs Manual
Leather vs Cloth
Mods
GTD vs GTI vs R
Car wash pics
The only truly new stuff is when someone's had a snash.
Thankfully the common faults post warranty expiration remains low.
I agree about diversity of ownership - probably uniquely for the MK7, the GTI was the poor boy of the bunch - excellent residuals and mpg meant people were buying GTDs over GTIs to what seemed a 5:1 ratio, to save an average £130 a month.
Then the R turned up, with cracking lease deals and colossal residuals - who'd buy a £400pm GTI over a £300pm R? Not many. The R became truly mainstream - it was the GTI that was the rare sight on the roads.
Dieselgate and the end of giveaway Rs through far lower GFVs and no great lease deals has seen the GTI rise back to popularity over the last few years. Of course most have come to realise that direct injection petrols are kicking out far more particulates than a DPF equipped diesel, hence the incoming GPFs.
I do hope that the people who make emissions legislative decisions will come to realise that a highly wound tiny engine working hard all the time is not the cleanest solution in terms of real driving emissions.
When we get some solid info on the MK8 things will pick up again - I dread to think what the MK8 performance Golfs will cost.
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I think the comparative reliability and lack if issues with the mk7/7.5s is a contributing factor.
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The first debate driver is always dissatisfaction, with satisfaction always a distant second.
Which is one of reasons rarely subject myself to watching the news is that the bias is always towards the negative and good news is not really news.
In my professional role its understood that you are doing a good job if you rarely hear from customers and management which you would certainly do if not doing role well.
And though there is those who are unfortunate and have had varying degrees of issues with the MK7 in the main the car has proven to be a really solid model run that is pretty much the best it can be from the fixes and lifts over its life cycle.
My journey was from the GTD to the R where this forum at the time was invaluable in having me making now proven the informed choices that needed to make.
But there was a settling point of having the car and there really was not much to say aside from enjoying the car itself and the R does give me that every day walk up to and then drive off.
Be choosing my next ride in May and likely another R and not much to ask from anyone as understand the car and the options and really the time spent on forums is giving newbie buyers some pointers and sharing in their satisfaction, its always nice to see someone join the MK7 club, have a look at the photos of the shining pride of joy, and basically in knowledge you know how good the experience is going to be for them.
Also personally like to see the mods threads as though something not do myself I do admire the skill and most of the end results
So do lurk more than talk but this forum and the R forum have a great core of members and even if the traffic is low the quality and more so the comradery.
So the MK 7 in terms of dialogue is a victim to its success but think we all appreciate that no news is sometimes a very good thing as we enjoy each mile on the road.