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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: vw spur on 17 July 2018, 06:37

Title: GTD rear brake pads
Post by: vw spur on 17 July 2018, 06:37
Was just having a look over the car yesterday & noticed my rear pass are quite low, do the rear pads have a sensor fitted to trip the light on the dash to indicate they’re worn?? Car is still on original factory pads.

Was going to go with Pagid pads from ECP, would they be good pads??

What’s a dealer likely to charge to fit pads?? Just asking as car is in the dealers today for warranty work & might ask them to do the work if they’re reasonably priced
Title: Re: GTD rear brake pads
Post by: mcmaddy on 17 July 2018, 07:02
Some dealers will price match local prices so worth asking.
Title: Re: GTD rear brake pads
Post by: Arnold_Lane on 17 July 2018, 09:35
If you have ODBeleven or VagCom you can wind back the auto hand brake servos and do it yourself in 15 minutes a side, providing you have the space and a few tools.
Title: Re: GTD rear brake pads
Post by: naxcars on 17 July 2018, 09:50
Don't think you'll have much change from £200 - the labour cost are more for the rears because of the electronic brake.
Title: Re: GTD rear brake pads
Post by: Watts on 17 July 2018, 10:26
VW fixed price servicing, rear pads up to 2L, excludes GTI but no mention of the GTD, £129 - http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/servicing/fixed-price-servicing?&mkwid=s4wthxWU0_pcrid_201233201658_pkw_vw%20fixed%20price%20servicing_pmt_e_pdv_t_slid__pgrid_39061886370_ptaid_aud-384726207817:kwd-303078611029_&tc=sem-_[Range]_[All]_[None]_[Exact]_[EN]_[Eval]_[Servicing]_[Core]-UK-google-Core_[Exact]-e-vw%20fixed%20price%20servicing&kw=vw%20fixed%20price%20servicing&gclid=EAIaIQobChMImoegtuel3AIVFTwbCh0WMA3eEAAYASAAEgKRv_D_BwE&mkwid=s4wthxWU0_201233201658_vw%20fixed%20price%20servicing_e_t&mtid=vdvv2y1xd0&slid=&product_id=
Title: Re: GTD rear brake pads
Post by: vw spur on 17 July 2018, 10:43
I’d have got them to do it at that price but it’s for cars 3 years & over unfortunately, mines 2016.
Title: Re: GTD rear brake pads
Post by: vw spur on 17 July 2018, 10:48
I’ve just phoned the dealer to ask & they say £289 for pads & discs, I said I only want pads replaced & was told they recommend discs are replaced at the same time as they’ll wear uneven otherwise, any truth in that or are they just trying it??

I didn’t tell them my name & they didn’t ask what car it was, just threw the price at me lol

I’ve had a quote from micheldever tyres for £69 for pads, just need to find out what brand pads they use.
Title: Re: GTD rear brake pads
Post by: Watts on 17 July 2018, 11:59
I’d have got them to do it at that price but it’s for cars 3 years & over unfortunately, mines 2016.

Ahh, bu@@er.

...was told they recommend discs are replaced at the same time as they’ll wear uneven otherwise...

I’ve had a quote from micheldever tyres for £69 for pads, just need to find out what brand pads they use.

I've never heard that before, I've rarely ever had to replace discs but plenty of pads and can't say it has ever been an issue. If that was the case then why would VW give pads only replacement prices? Sounds like salesmanship to me. Plus they hadn't even seen your car when they quoted. If you trust the other garage and are happy with the brand of pads they will use (if not, perhaps they will quote to fit what you supply?) I'd go with them, at £69 that seems very good.
Title: Re: GTD rear brake pads
Post by: Gnasher on 17 July 2018, 12:41
Without looking at the discs, I couldn't say for certain, but I doubt the discs need changing. Unless there's absolutely masses of changes in the thickness of the discs and they are above the minimum thickness, can't see any issues with just changing the pads.

On the flipside, with the motor manufacturers quest for longer service intervals, the ratio of pad changes to disc changes has definitely shifted in more recent years. It used to be that pads were soft and discs were hard and the discs rarely needed changing, whereas nowadays it's more likely the discs would need changing too.

Either way, there's no way a decent garage could say that you need your discs changing without even looking at them. That's simply trying to wring as much cash out of you as they can.
Title: Re: GTD rear brake pads
Post by: Talk-torque on 17 July 2018, 16:30
Have a look around on here and you will find that really bad rear pad and disc wear is a feature of Mk 7 GTD and GTI. Opinion on here suggests something to do with cruise control. Whatever, both my pads and discs are now marginal, after just 20K miles. I don’t use the brakes hard and I don’t use cruise that often, so I really am not pleased. I’ve replaced front pads before, but rarely front discs and never rears. The discs are scored badly and unevenly. Not good enough from VW!
Title: Re: GTD rear brake pads
Post by: mcmaddy on 17 July 2018, 17:23
Your issue is probably not driving hard enough to get the rears to work properly so they'll end up with a lip on the discs.
Title: Re: GTD rear brake pads
Post by: vw spur on 17 July 2018, 19:39
So, I’m an idiot, embarrassed myself big time today, after collecting my car from the dealers, I headed over to Micheldever Tyres for the 4pm booking I’d made for replacement pads, 1st time I’d used them & they’ve got a big set up there, really big place, anyway, I booked in & handed the keys over & went to wait in the waiting area, a few minutes later a guy comes in & asks can I confirm what kind of work I’ve brought my car in for, I tell him replacement rear pads, he asks me to come with him & he brings me to my car which is up on a ramp with the wheels off & he asks why I want my pads replaced when there is still 50% of the pad left, I thought they were worn  :embarrassed: I literally wanted a hole in the ground to open up & me to fall in it. Micheldever were great about it, said it’s no problem, they cleaned up the hubs & put the wheels back on & sent me on my way, I offered to pay for the time I’d taken up which was refused, they could have easily whipped the pads out & replaced them & id have been none the wiser, I’ll defo use them in the future, in a game where some garages are untrustworthy it’s great to come across an honest company.

As for the warranty work my car went in for, my fob has failed & needs replacing, gotta wait 10days for a new one to arrive, just hope I don’t lose the one I have in the meantime.
Title: Re: GTD rear brake pads
Post by: vw spur on 17 July 2018, 19:45
I’d have got them to do it at that price but it’s for cars 3 years & over unfortunately, mines 2016.

Ahh, bu@@er.

...was told they recommend discs are replaced at the same time as they’ll wear uneven otherwise...

I’ve had a quote from micheldever tyres for £69 for pads, just need to find out what brand pads they use.

I've never heard that before, I've rarely ever had to replace discs but plenty of pads and can't say it has ever been an issue. If that was the case then why would VW give pads only replacement prices? Sounds like salesmanship to me. Plus they hadn't even seen your car when they quoted. If you trust the other garage and are happy with the brand of pads they will use (if not, perhaps they will quote to fit what you supply?) I'd go with them, at £69 that seems very good.

I’d never heard pads & discs needing changing together either, seems like a money making exercise to me. Pagid pads were going to be used at Micheldever, they also said a set of discs should last through 2 sets of pads on normal wear.
Title: Re: GTD rear brake pads
Post by: monkeyhanger on 17 July 2018, 21:29
My R has only done 25k miles now, I rarely use cruise, and i'm good at preserving my momentum when up to speed i.e. not accelerating on the approach to a stopping/slowing scenario only to jam on the anchors, but every time the car is in I have an advisory that the rears are low and need replacing soon. Those ventilated rears on the PP/R have very little wear allowance from new.