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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: rjwojcik on 16 July 2018, 22:23
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OK, so you get the following with the Discover Nav Pro. Anyone know what the standard Nav comes with? Any links?
Discover navigation Pro infotainment system £1,325
Discover Navigation Pro infotainment system - Voice activated control system � responds to spoken voice commands for navigation and telephone functions. 9.2" colour touch-screen control system for navigation, DVD, CD and radio functions and Volkswagen Media Control, allowing remote control of the infotainment system via a smartphone or tablet. 64 GB SSD hard drive. Preloaded European navigation data, 3D map view, three calculated routes (Fast, Short, Eco), dynamic navigation based on TMC+, branded points of interest, Speed Limit Display3, photo display from JPEG and PNG files and SD card reader x 2. �Gesture Control� enables convenient operation of menu functions via a simple sideways gesture, easily select radio stations, songs or photos with a single hand movement. 3-years Car-Net �Guide and Inform Plus� access providing online access to a range of useful information such as traffic, fuel pricing, parking space availability, weather and news feeds. Includes online navigation software updates, enabling you to download the latest map data. Please contact your authorised Volkswagen retailer for full details
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You don't get voice activation, or the hard drive and you won't be able to have map showing on screen and in the virtual dash. You'll lose an SD slot without the pro as the maps are read from the SD card (not sure if this bothers people really). Pro looks much nicer and finishes the dash off. Could you do without pro, probably but it's still the first thing I've ticked on both my mk7 golfs.
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You don't get voice activation, or the hard drive and you won't be able to have map showing on screen and in the virtual dash. You'll lose an SD slot without the pro as the maps are read from the SD card (not sure if this bothers people really). Pro looks much nicer and finishes the dash off. Could you do without pro, probably but it's still the first thing I've ticked on both my mk7 golfs.
Thanks
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Standard Discover Nav doesn't have gesture control from the Pro, but thankfully it does have two rotary buttons, which makes operating it on the move far easier than the touchscreen.
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The book is harder to decypher than the Enigma and half of the goodies you will never use anyway.
My wife has a PhD and she has sorted it for me, she also does all the navigating when we are on a run :smiley:
One (major) problem is how it interprets road conditions and trafiic flow.
'Obstructions on the road' in the UK can sometimes mean a diversion is advised, in France and Spain it is often a white van on the safety lane and a couple of guys with strimmers with nothing in sight for 3km on either side of the autoroute.
The cruise control is superb.
The speed is not via the road sign but its internal maps.
It identifies when your driving on the 'other' side of the road but not when going the wrong way up a one way street (took a Spanish cop to tell me) :rolleyes:
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The book is harder to decypher than the Enigma and half of the goodies you will never use anyway.
My wife has a PhD and she has sorted it for me, she also does all the navigating when we are on a run :smiley:
One (major) problem is how it interprets road conditions and trafiic flow.
'Obstructions on the road' in the UK can sometimes mean a diversion is advised, in France and Spain it is often a white van on the safety lane and a couple of guys with strimmers with nothing in sight for 3km on either side of the autoroute.
The cruise control is superb.
The speed is not via the road sign but its internal maps.
It identifies when your driving on the 'other' side of the road but not when going the wrong way up a one way street (took a Spanish cop to tell me) :rolleyes:
I like the fact the nav will not argue / critisise you if you take a wrong turn, she's very patient with me. God forbid, if SWMBO is navigating and I do not obey. :grin:
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Standard Nav doesn't get
- Voice activated control system responds to spoken voice commands for navigation and telephone functions. (unless you pay for it separately)
-9.2" colour touch-screen control system for navigation, DVD, CD and radio functions and Volkswagen Media Control, allowing remote control of the infotainment system via a smartphone or tablet. (standard can't play DVD or video files at all)
- 64 GB SSD hard drive. (standard runs from a SD card, sacrificing one of the two available for music)
- 3D map view - (sort of useful)
- Speed Limit Display (from map data)
-photo display from JPEG and PNG files and SD card reader x 2.
- Gesture Control� enables convenient operation of menu functions via a simple sideways gesture, easily select radio stations, songs or photos with a single hand movement.
The rest, it does.
But it can't display the map on the AID and the media unit at the same time - its one or the other on standard. Big feature? Not really, but it is useful if you have it.
TBH I'd say VW nav is a bit lame anyway. Using Android Auto on the basic one and you've got nearly everything the Pro one has, except a MASSIVE screen.
£1350 is a lot of extra cash to spend when basic nav comes "free". If I had to choose between a 800 quid basic nav and a 1300 quid pro nav, that's a bit different, but you don't get the money back for upgrading!
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I like the fact the nav will not argue / critisise you if you take a wrong turn, she's very patient with me. God forbid, if SWMBO is navigating and I do not obey. :grin:
We used to have some massive "disagreements" over directions with the occasional threat of getting out in some random place and my thinking what a great idea.... She would open the map book and struggle to find the right page let alone give directions when I was at a junction despite having been given a briefing prior to leaving :rolleyes: The advent of directions on her smart phone has done wonders for our respective blood pressures :laugh: Slightly more on topic, I find the built in nav to be average, it's directions can be odd, often too late to be able to follow at a busy junction/roundabout and when you select the route you want at the start it's often difficult to tell which routes it is offering as it is too far zoomed out (perhaps there's a way of zooming in?). So I've just replaced shouting at my OH with shouting at the sat nav... So to me, a smart phone is better and therefore I wouldn't pay the extra for Pro.
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I've never used sat nav to get me anywhere - it's just a nice picture to me. But then I'm a map and compass type of guy.
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Can't tell you how good the Pro is but the standard is as good as a nav needs to be.
Issues are that it's touch screen so I imagine losing the 2 knobs is a potential problem and can be used on all menus including Apple Carplay (some reviews have said same about no knobs!). Other main issue is entering a postcode which requires too any clicks before you can enter the postcode - gone round the houses before you've even set off!
Looks wise, the std screen in the 7.5 looks fantastic so you'd have to be nuts to pay for the upgrade in terms of it 'looks better'.
Personally, I'd spend the money on something else such as the pan roof or wheels.
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Can't tell you how good the Pro is but the standard is as good as a nav needs to be.
Issues are that it's touch screen so I imagine losing the 2 knobs is a potential problem and can be used on all menus including Apple Carplay (some reviews have said same about no knobs!). Other main issue is entering a postcode which requires too any clicks before you can enter the postcode - gone round the houses before you've even set off!
Looks wise, the std screen in the 7.5 looks fantastic so you'd have to be nuts to pay for the upgrade in terms of it 'looks better'.
Personally, I'd spend the money on something else such as the pan roof or wheels.
I've recently picked up my new Gti with standard nav. For inputting postcodes I just press Nav, then new destination (bottom left) then type the postcode in the "enter address/POi" box. Nice and quick for me.
Don't remember it always being that quick. Used to take me about 5 minutes on out work pool car which was a Skoda.
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My mark 6 and Mk7 GTDs both had the standard Naved fitted and they were enough for me. I was my impatience to get my 7.5 R that resulted in me having the nav pro on this car. The vehicle was enroute to a dealership and was pretty much specced as I wanted except that it had nav pro and didn’t have Dynaudio, but I got the car in 2 weeks. My views, as a Luddite, are that it looks pretty cool (one you get rid of the fingerprints). I don’t find the lack of knobs an issue as I use the steering controls. The gesture and voice controls are hit and miss and I would rather have had The Dynaudio at £550 than navpro at £1350, but a two week wait is a two week wait, a reasonable px for the GTD and a good discount on the list price swayed it for me. I thought the sound was better than that of the standard unit, but I am advised that there is no difference! I am probably convincing myself that it is in order to justify the expenditure. In summary, as a slate and abacus man, it is not worth the money. If you love techy stuff then go for it. Did I say it looks cool? :grin:
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Is NavPro good looking? YES!
Is NavPro more useful? YES!
Is NavPro worth £1350? Hmmmmm
But you can say that about any of the options... bigger wheels...paint...seats...lane assist...
I personally don't think 19's do anything for me... I'd buy them as a 100 quid upgrade, but not what VW want.
I liked another colour (I have white) but couldn't justify money for a colour (hell, I'd have not paid for white but that purple was soooooo bad)
The thing with all of these extras are VW trying to edge more money out of you for not a lot of extra functionality - it doesn't drive better, it doesn't go faster.... its just bling. If anything VW UK's packaging of the performance golfs with loads of "free base spec" is actually upselling in the first place. They know that most people wouldn't spec to £28k if they offered a basic GTI without the toys (like in Germany) at £19k. Thats 9k of extra money they'd never see...
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So it also says the following about the Nav Pro:
Discover Navigation Pro infotainment system
8 speakers, front and rear
Bluetooth mobile phone interface
Car-net 'App-Connect' with Media Control
MDI (Multi-Device Interface) via USB connection - compatible products only
Voice activation, spoken voice commands for telephone and navigation system
Does that mean you get less speakers with the Standard and no bluetooth?
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So it also says the following about the Nav Pro:
Discover Navigation Pro infotainment system
8 speakers, front and rear
Bluetooth mobile phone interface
Car-net 'App-Connect' with Media Control
MDI (Multi-Device Interface) via USB connection - compatible products only
Voice activation, spoken voice commands for telephone and navigation system
Does that mean you get less speakers with the Standard and no bluetooth?
No, of that list only "Voice activation, spoken voice commands for telephone and navigation system" is missing on the basic nav (oh maybe the media control app is missing too but that's sh*t).
If you want voice control, you can pay for activation of the software feature on the basic nav.
(I'd not bother to be honest)
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Standard Nav doesn't get
- Voice activated control system responds to spoken voice commands for navigation and telephone functions. (unless you pay for it separately)
-9.2" colour touch-screen control system for navigation, DVD, CD and radio functions and Volkswagen Media Control, allowing remote control of the infotainment system via a smartphone or tablet. (standard can't play DVD or video files at all)
- 64 GB SSD hard drive. (standard runs from a SD card, sacrificing one of the two available for music)
- 3D map view - (sort of useful)
- Speed Limit Display (from map data)
-photo display from JPEG and PNG files and SD card reader x 2.
- Gesture Control� enables convenient operation of menu functions via a simple sideways gesture, easily select radio stations, songs or photos with a single hand movement.
Just read on another forum that the standard Sat nav shows the speed limit. Could someone confirm, please?
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Standard Nav doesn't get
- Voice activated control system responds to spoken voice commands for navigation and telephone functions. (unless you pay for it separately)
-9.2" colour touch-screen control system for navigation, DVD, CD and radio functions and Volkswagen Media Control, allowing remote control of the infotainment system via a smartphone or tablet. (standard can't play DVD or video files at all)
- 64 GB SSD hard drive. (standard runs from a SD card, sacrificing one of the two available for music)
- 3D map view - (sort of useful)
- Speed Limit Display (from map data)
-photo display from JPEG and PNG files and SD card reader x 2.
- Gesture Control� enables convenient operation of menu functions via a simple sideways gesture, easily select radio stations, songs or photos with a single hand movement.
Just read on another forum that the standard Sat nav shows the speed limit. Could someone confirm, please?
Yes; it does show the speed limit, but only on the main unit screen, not when you put the map on the AID between the guages. Well, not so far as I can see, but would be happy to be proved wrong as that would be useful.
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Standard Nav doesn't get
- Voice activated control system responds to spoken voice commands for navigation and telephone functions. (unless you pay for it separately)
-9.2" colour touch-screen control system for navigation, DVD, CD and radio functions and Volkswagen Media Control, allowing remote control of the infotainment system via a smartphone or tablet. (standard can't play DVD or video files at all)
- 64 GB SSD hard drive. (standard runs from a SD card, sacrificing one of the two available for music)
- 3D map view - (sort of useful)
- Speed Limit Display (from map data)
-photo display from JPEG and PNG files and SD card reader x 2.
- Gesture Control� enables convenient operation of menu functions via a simple sideways gesture, easily select radio stations, songs or photos with a single hand movement.
Just read on another forum that the standard Sat nav shows the speed limit. Could someone confirm, please?
Yes; it does show the speed limit, but only on the main unit screen, not when you put the map on the AID between the guages. Well, not so far as I can see, but would be happy to be proved wrong as that would be useful.
Showing it on the main screen would be good enough for me... Ta
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My tuppence worth, I have no Nav, I just use Waze, pisses all over anything from VW, live updates etc.
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If you have the map in the active info (standard NAV) and 'NAV' selected on the main screen you get the speed limits on the main screen
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My tuppence worth, I have no Nav, I just use Waze, pisses all over anything from VW, live updates etc.
^^^this!!