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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: scanesare on 23 June 2018, 20:52
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Thought of it over and over and I think I'd rather remove the red GTI badges from the rear, front and sides of the car. To be honest I never really liked them on the Clubsport, VW made all that effort with the different styling, upgraded engine etc. so a couple of CS specific badges would have made much more sense, plus you don't usually get badges of a 230bhp car on a 290bhp one so I think I'd like it more incognito. My only question is, how easy or hard is it to re-attach them in the future more likely for resale purposes? Easy to get hold of the proper adhesive?
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It's a 40th Anniversary Golf GTI. As the 35th, 30th, 25th, 10th before it, it's a tweaked Golf GTI.
It celebrates GTI. It isn't 'not a GTI', the whole point is, it's a GTI.
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Easy to remove, use dental floss, remove adhesive residue with optical instrument cleaner or degreaser spray for optics.
You won't easily be able to reattach old badge as the tape is cut and stamped to match shape of badge.
Used to work for a supplier of exactly these things, and the best way would be to buy new badges / nameplates.
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Don’t the badges on the front wings and tailgate have a self adhesive backing? The badge on the front grille is clipped in and removing it will leave a non-honeycomb solid black area on the grille, which IMO would look a bit odd; as if someone has stolen the badge and the owner hasn’t bothered replacing it. There’s s picture of the grille badge removed at the link below;
https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4608
If you do remove them, I’d suggest making a template of the areas where they’re currently located (with measurements), so when you put new badges back on, you can put them in the exact same location that the originals were in.
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Easy to remove, use dental floss, remove adhesive residue with optical instrument cleaner or degreaser spray for optics.
You won't easily be able to reattach old badge as the tape is cut and stamped to match shape of badge.
Used to work for a supplier of exactly these things, and the best way would be to buy new badges / nameplates.
thanks for the info, would be ok to re-buy them if that was actually a deal-breaker for the next guy but i'm now thinking what SRGTD wrote below:
Don’t the badges on the front wings and tailgate have a self adhesive backing? The badge on the front grille is clipped in and removing it will leave a non-honeycomb solid black area on the grille, which IMO would look a bit odd; as if someone has stolen the badge and the owner hasn’t bothered replacing it. There’s s picture of the grille badge removed at the link below;
https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4608
If you do remove them, I’d suggest making a template of the areas where they’re currently located (with measurements), so when you put new badges back on, you can put them in the exact same location that the originals were in.
I wondered about the front badge and your comment and photo confirms it, it might make me change my mind as I agree it doesn't look nice at all. I had thought of taking measurements of the original locations but thanks for stressing it!
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It's a 40th Anniversary Golf GTI. As the 35th, 30th, 25th, 10th before it, it's a tweaked Golf GTI.
It celebrates GTI. It isn't 'not a GTI', the whole point is, it's a GTI.
Without wanting to de-rail the thread to a "remove them or not" debate my view on this is that: a) the CS is much more of an upgrade in various areas over a mk7 GTI than the ED35 was to the mk6 GTI (think new front bumper, diffuser, rear spoiler, tail-pipes, rims, bucket seats, steering wheel and interior bits it's almost immediately obvious it's not a standard GTI), hence why it was also given the "Clubsport" name, and b) even the ED35 with its minimum aesthetic changes had side badges reading "35" which I find right.
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It's an enhanced, improved upon GTI. 25th had it right, had all of those changes and a nice retro GTI badge front and rear.
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I wondered about the front badge and your comment and photo confirms it, it might make me change my mind as I agree it doesn't look nice at all. I had thought of taking measurements of the original locations but thanks for stressing it!
(https://i.imgur.com/dz3Me5R.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/1AvO8oH.png)
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Couldn't ask for any more details than that I think! :wink:
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Don’t the badges on the front wings and tailgate have a self adhesive backing?
Yes they have, but it’s cut (stamped) to exactly fit the nameplates. It’s a foam tape essentially.
Difficult to trim 3M tape exactly by craft knife.... I tried.
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So you want to debadge your GTI because you don’t like that it’s a GTI but when you want to sell it then you’ll rebadge it as GTI as it is actually a GTI?
Sounds like the the most pointless thread of 2018 so far! :grin:
There is no way to confuse a CS with a regular GTI so don’t really know what the problem is. Don’t they all say Clubsport in massive writing down the side of the car?
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So you want to debadge your GTI because you don’t like that it’s a GTI but when you want to sell it then you’ll rebadge it as GTI as it is actually a GTI?
Sounds like the the most pointless thread of 2018 so far! :grin:
There is no way to confuse a CS with a regular GTI so don’t really know what the problem is. Don’t they all say Clubsport in massive writing down the side of the car?
Thanks for your pointless and off-topic reply! It is of-course very much appreciated but I would like to kindly remind you the topic here is what's involved in de-bagding and re-badging, not what you think of the reasons behind the process. I have quite a few of them, I explained them briefly earlier while stressing out it's not a "tell me your opinion about debadging" thread but strangely you failed to identify even a single one in your arbitrary assumptions above. Almost sounds like you just wanted to write "this is the most pointless thread of 2018" :huh:
However, If you're still losing sleep over it you might try thinking of it like this: MK7 GTI had silver badges, GTI PP (an actually identical car both visually and technically) had red, so either give me something different on the CS or I'd rather keep it clean and minimal, that's what I'd like, can't be THAT hard to grasp can it? But even if it is, just remember: it doesn't matter because it's not the topic here!!
Oh and I have been told, several times, stuff like: "i like your GTI, a friend/colleague of mine has the same car" (means standard GTI) or "I had an mk6, that's 10 or 20bhp more now?" , I've actually given up and nowadays reply: yeah they're not too bad, cheers... The Clubsport stripe on the side of a carbon grey car is not half as distinguishable as you might think, especially when dirty.
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Just tell people it's a two wheel drive R :tongue:
2motion
I'm thinking of taking the rear R badge off mine but thats just because I like a clean look.
I just use boiling water to soften up the glue and then pull them off. Then use car polish on the glue, it dries it off and should just come away using a soft microfiber cloth
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How about black badgeskins?
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How about black badgeskins?
That’s quite a good idea. It would make the badges less obvious, ties in with the OP’s gloss black and Carbon Grey theme, and provides a solution to ‘missing badge’ look the OP would have if they removed the front grille badge. The badgeskins should also be easy to remove when the time comes to sell the car, although a prospective buyer might like them, in which case they could be left on.
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Just tell people it's a two wheel drive R :tongue:
2motion
I'm thinking of taking the rear R badge off mine but thats just because I like a clean look.
I just use boiling water to soften up the glue and then pull them off. Then use car polish on the glue, it dries it off and should just come away using a soft microfiber cloth
Hairdryer works too :wink:
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As JV said, it is a GTI which VW breathed on to celebrate the 40th anniversary. Yes you are perfectly in your right to mess about with the badges and then stick them back on when you sell, but it all seems like a pointless waste of time. VW probably though the GTI fans would want standard badges, as it is a GTI after all, which wait for it, celebrates the heritage of the GTI. Ironically by de-badgeing it, in my humble opinion, the general public (who don't know anything) will be like, or it's just another Golf. :laugh:
So you want to debadge your GTI because you don’t like that it’s a GTI but when you want to sell it then you’ll rebadge it as GTI as it is actually a GTI?
Sounds like the the most pointless thread of 2018 so far! :grin:
There is no way to confuse a CS with a regular GTI so don’t really know what the problem is. Don’t they all say Clubsport in massive writing down the side of the car?
Thanks for your pointless and off-topic reply! It is of-course very much appreciated but I would like to kindly remind you the topic here is what's involved in de-bagding and re-badging, not what you think of the reasons behind the process. I have quite a few of them, I explained them briefly earlier while stressing out it's not a "tell me your opinion about debadging" thread but strangely you failed to identify even a single one in your arbitrary assumptions above. Almost sounds like you just wanted to write "this is the most pointless thread of 2018" :huh:
However, If you're still losing sleep over it you might try thinking of it like this: MK7 GTI had silver badges, GTI PP (an actually identical car both visually and technically) had red, so either give me something different on the CS or I'd rather keep it clean and minimal, that's what I'd like, can't be THAT hard to grasp can it? But even if it is, just remember: it doesn't matter because it's not the topic here!!
Oh and I have been told, several times, stuff like: "i like your GTI, a friend/colleague of mine has the same car" (means standard GTI) or "I had an mk6, that's 10 or 20bhp more now?" , I've actually given up and nowadays reply: yeah they're not too bad, cheers... The Clubsport stripe on the side of a carbon grey car is not half as distinguishable as you might think, especially when dirty.
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How about black badgeskins?
You might be on to something here, cheers! Detailed reply just below
That’s quite a good idea actually. It would make the badges less obvious, ties in with the OP’s gloss black and Carbon Grey theme, and provides a solution to ‘missing badge’ look the OP would have if they removed the front grille badge. The badgeskins should also be easy to remove when the time comes to sell the car, although a prospective buyer might like them, in which case they could be left on.
Just had a look at dubber's suggestion (didn't even know such stuff is readily available) and I have a feeling it could be exactly as you say: Less obvious yet different than the standard GTI badge (much like the car is different to the standard GTI car) and again as you say, the gloss black version would match perfectly all those gloss black Clubsport specific bits of the bodykit. Hmmm...
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Just tell people it's a two wheel drive R :tongue:
2motion
I'm thinking of taking the rear R badge off mine but thats just because I like a clean look.
I just use boiling water to soften up the glue and then pull them off. Then use car polish on the glue, it dries it off and should just come away using a soft microfiber cloth
:grin: A custom 2motion badge sounds very tempting indeed, might need to look into that
Totally agree on the cleaner hatch look on your R. Being an estate and more subtle overall you'll be giving it a real sleeper's look :wink:
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So you want to debadge your GTI because you don’t like that it’s a GTI but when you want to sell it then you’ll rebadge it as GTI as it is actually a GTI?
Sounds like the the most pointless thread of 2018 so far! :grin:
There is no way to confuse a CS with a regular GTI so don’t really know what the problem is. Don’t they all say Clubsport in massive writing down the side of the car?
Thanks for your pointless and off-topic reply! It is of-course very much appreciated but I would like to kindly remind you the topic here is what's involved in de-bagding and re-badging, not what you think of the reasons behind the process. I have quite a few of them, I explained them briefly earlier while stressing out it's not a "tell me your opinion about debadging" thread but strangely you failed to identify even a single one in your arbitrary assumptions above. Almost sounds like you just wanted to write "this is the most pointless thread of 2018" :huh:
However, If you're still losing sleep over it you might try thinking of it like this: MK7 GTI had silver badges, GTI PP (an actually identical car both visually and technically) had red, so either give me something different on the CS or I'd rather keep it clean and minimal, that's what I'd like, can't be THAT hard to grasp can it? But even if it is, just remember: it doesn't matter because it's not the topic here!!
Oh and I have been told, several times, stuff like: "i like your GTI, a friend/colleague of mine has the same car" (means standard GTI) or "I had an mk6, that's 10 or 20bhp more now?" , I've actually given up and nowadays reply: yeah they're not too bad, cheers... The Clubsport stripe on the side of a carbon grey car is not half as distinguishable as you might think, especially when dirty.
Couple of things as you seem to have flown off the handle here.
You perhaps need to look up the meaning of off topic. You subject says debadge and debadge and you’ll notice my reply mentioned both those words.
You implied you don’t like it’s being a GTI which is the reason for taking them off. Maybe you should have stated that you didn’t like the colour of them.
I had gloss black badgskins on my Indium Grey and they looked great, liked the subtle look and should have actually got the black side ones as well.
(https://s26.postimg.cc/olzjy3761/31_FB559_C-9_B4_D-42_AD-8_CF1-57_B8_FF3_E35_F6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/olzjy375x/)
(https://s26.postimg.cc/jnc1jkb2x/72_C659_BE-_E5_FE-43_E2-_BBF2-830636317039.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9q10qi3h1/)
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Couple of things as you seem to have flown off the handle here.
You perhaps need to look up the meaning of off topic. You subject says debadge and debadge and you’ll notice my reply mentioned both those words.
You implied you don’t like it’s being a GTI which is the reason for taking them off. Maybe you should have stated that you didn’t like the colour of them.
I had gloss black badgskins on my Indium Grey and they looked great, liked the subtle look and should have actually got the black side ones as well.
(https://s26.postimg.cc/olzjy3761/31_FB559_C-9_B4_D-42_AD-8_CF1-57_B8_FF3_E35_F6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/olzjy375x/)
(https://s26.postimg.cc/jnc1jkb2x/72_C659_BE-_E5_FE-43_E2-_BBF2-830636317039.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9q10qi3h1/)
Well the topic includes the words debadge and rebadge yes but in the context it was clear what it was about, not opinions on whether to de-badge or not - I'm dead sure I don't like the red GTI PP badges on mine and not interested in entering a debate on that at all - but on how much of a PITA the process of removing may be. Also, someone else misunderstood this too: I don't plan to re-badge the car on purpose after a while, that would be kind of pointless of-course. I am only bringing this up because I am thinking of whatever might affect resale value (in general) and if for the next buyer the absence of stock badges were a deal-breaker I'd like to be prepared and have an idea of how to restore them, simple as that.
It's a pity we lost time arguing on that especially since you can provide useful info regarding the badgeskin options, have to admit that sounds like an alternative I hadn't thought of (or even was aware of) but I want to make sure the finish looks like stock, hate most cosmetic mods that don't give an OEM feel. Thanks for those photos, they look good I think and I'd definitely go for black on black side blades with GTI logo too. In your opinion did they look and feel like an OEM GTI badge just in black colour? Think I missed why you removed them?
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They looked great. Easy enough to apply. Not sure how they’d work over the red ones as the red badges do appear to be slightly different as the std silver ones are completely flat.
Don’t have the Indium Grey car anymore but they were left on it.
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They looked great. Easy enough to apply. Not sure how they’d work over the red ones as the red badges do appear to be slightly different as the std silver ones are completely flat.
Don’t have the Indium Grey car anymore but they were left on it.
Ok that sounds good then. Oh yes I remember the 7.5 swap now, so your buyer did not mind them, good sign.
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So, considering all the info and suggestions so far i think the way to go would be:
a) hatch badge delete, I just love a clean hatch look I guess and the CS bigger tailpipes and spoiler would create some sort of mystery/uncertainty as to which Golf is that exactly which I like, might be even taken for a standard Golf which would be even funnier :tongue:
b) black on black side blade badgeskins and black for the front one. I quite like the side blade design so with a different colour (black would match the rest of the gloss black nicely) I would be fine to keep them on. The front I'd very much like to get rid of but seeing as it's not that simple, black inlay could improve it in my eyes, maybe, I guess I can only try and see what I think about it.
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If you have deep pockets I would suggest;
https://rbstyling.com/de/automarken/volkswagen/golf/golf-7-5g-2012/gti-emblem-kotfluegel-schwarz-glaenzend-rot-glaenzend
And then one of these for the front;
https://rbstyling.com/de/automarken/volkswagen/golf/golf-7-5g-2012/gti-emblem-kuehlergrill-rot-glaenzend-schwarz-glaenzend
De-badge the rear. :cool:
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If you have deep pockets I would suggest;
https://rbstyling.com/de/automarken/volkswagen/golf/golf-7-5g-2012/gti-emblem-kotfluegel-schwarz-glaenzend-rot-glaenzend
And then one of these for the front;
https://rbstyling.com/de/automarken/volkswagen/golf/golf-7-5g-2012/gti-emblem-kuehlergrill-rot-glaenzend-schwarz-glaenzend
De-badge the rear. :cool:
Not liking the side ones as still the GTI is in red but the front in black with a red frame could be an option considering there's red tones in the front grille and headlights. Need to think how that would match a black/black side badgeskin. Rear is definitely going for de-badge though.
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Completely black?
https://rbstyling.com/de/automarken/volkswagen/golf/golf-7-5g-2012/gti-emblem-kotfluegel-schwarz-glaenzend
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Completely black?
https://rbstyling.com/de/automarken/volkswagen/golf/golf-7-5g-2012/gti-emblem-kotfluegel-schwarz-glaenzend
Yeah that's what I thought cheers, although now that I see it it looks too dark maybe? :tongue: Probably I'll give the badgeskins a try first. I think I like the fact they leave the frame in silver.
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Now I'd be happy to do the badges completely black (especially the boot one) as I've got an early PP model (so just chrome badges) and it's a white car.
That said, I'd also do the boot badge black with white inlays and the front badges white to match the body colour.
Wouldn't know what to do with the side blades though. Maybe leave the red bit red and do the surround black or change the red bit white with the same black surround?
Just typed this and thought "thread hijack" to myself, but posted it anyway lol.
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Badgeskins delivered today and at last I have my personal color code in place:
Silver = GTI
Red = GTI PP
Black = Clubsport
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Very happy with both the quality of the vinyl stickers (they fit perfectly although the "G" has a slight difference in the radii only noticeable from really close though) and the color choice. There are many black references on the Clubsport so to me, black badges look right at home.
(https://i.imgur.com/jvVFeTM.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wYAckUX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Qeizh8M.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/e40lwu8.jpg)
The only problem is either Badgeskins or me got the blade badges wrong, or opposite to be precise. I thought I had ordered the red interior of the blades in black, instead I got all the silver bits in black (GTI letters and silver blade) leaving the red interior there. I want to keep GTI in silver and instead replace red color with black. I'll see how I get this sorted.
All in all quite happy with the result and for now at least I've forgotten about debadging, the new black badge look does the trick for me.
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Looks good with the black badges :cool:. Good decision not to debadge IMO.