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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: ksuk2009 on 02 May 2018, 15:11
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What do you guys drive ? DSG or manual ? What is more popular in the UK ?
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In a poll I ran a while back...
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=280067
About two thirds were DSG.
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DSG :cool:
It’s my first DSG/auto car and I’m never going back to manual.
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Manual is fun for about 15 minutes on a spirited drive
DSG is what you want 99% of the time
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DSG as that’ll be the only option soon.
(I’ve had four manual mk7’s on the trot)
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When buying my GTI I test drove the DSG after the salesman insisted. I bought a manual as I've always preferred them.
Lots of folk said I'd made a mistake and should've gone DSG so I had a longer drive in a friends DSG GTI. Nope, I made the right choice, I just didn't like the DSG car at all.
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I've never really got on with any of the auto's i've tried. Would have to be manual for me, although VW deciding to no longer offer GTD's with manual will probably cause me a dilemma next time I choose.
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DSG every time, had over 30years driving manuals and Auto boxes and back then the auto slushbox was a bore to drive. The recent ones are fun to drive and stronger clutches as well than the manual boxes.
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Its obviously a personal preference, but I love the DSG box on my 7.5 gti. Its so responsive, and coupled with the adaptive cruise control an awesome long distance cruiser.
I haven't really tried using the paddles yet.
Its a bit weird VW offer two auto-boxes for the GTI. The 6 speed and the 7 speed which is only with the PP pack. You would think it would be more cost effective to only offer one.
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They probably will once all the 6 speed dsg are used up.
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I wan't keen on the 6 speed DSG but the new 7 speed seems much better.
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DSG. Switched from manual to DSG 10 years ago and never looked back. Better paddle shifters are a must though (S2Ts).
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DSG for a daily car, manual for a fun weekend car.
Looking forward to seeing whether the 7 speed DSG is any different or better next month.....
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DSG for a daily car, manual for a fun weekend car.
100% this.
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I just wish on the DSG box manual was fully manual without kick down or change up
Also wish there was a mode between D and S as in D it can be a bit slow to react as probably in 6th doing 40mph to keep the eco warriors happy
Up GTI means back to the cog turning but weekend toy is getting PDK
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I have a GTI PP DSG on order, delivery in late June. This will be first DSG car (and first GTI), my current A4 is a manual. Not a bad manual, but a chore in commute stop-start traffic. And, I am convinced that all that clutch work with my left foot makes my bad back worse!
So, I am really looking forward to the DSG part of my new GTI PP.
Before the manual A4 I had an auto 5 series. That auto was excellent, and I really wonder now what I was thinking when I ordered the A4 in manual!
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This is my first DSG as I have always opted for manual before. Test drove my mates DSG and loved it so made sure that's what I picked when I changed cars. As I am generally stuck in a lot of commuter traffic is busy Birmingham the DSG makes it so much easier getting to and from work. Also I can just drop the gear stick into sport when required or use paddles instead for a very quick response.
Also as mentioned above DSG is a dream with ACC / long journeys as all that is required is steering and the occasional intervention when a twit tries to jump in your space :angry:
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I've had a few DSG cars in the past and it's a fantastic system. My golf is manual, although I would be equally happy if it was DSG. I have to say that it is very satisfying when you're having a fun drive, even though it's slower than the automatic.
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What always makes me laugh is that people on here moan like crazy about automatic lights, wipers, handbrakes and pretty much every other type of computerised driver aids that a Mk7 comes with, yet seemingly people love DSG. Ironically, its probably one of the things that degrades the purest driving experience (along with 4motion I might add!)
I only don't have it because I'm a tight arse (and previously it made no financial sense as a company car driver due to worse CO2 figures for DSG plus the cost of DSG on BIK) but I know it would make my hours of daily driving less stressy... but my Golf isn't a plaything, its a tool for transportation. If I wanted a toy for pure driving fun, i'd have something else anyway :D
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I think the tech on the Golf is great. I can override the wipers, lights, cruise etc if I want to or just let it do its thing. Same as I can take control of the gears if I want to. I just have no wish whatsover to sit in traffic jams with a clutch. If I had a Clubsport as weekend or track toy then I'd consider a manual.
Ps Mine is a company car and the tax aint that bad. If anyone can privately lease or buy, insure and maintain a brand new Golf GTi DSG for less than £200 a month let me know!
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Same here, I'd take DSG again.... there was a bit of a hike in company car tax (good 3k over my previous Golf estate that had same list price as my GTD) but hey, didn't fancy doing 20 hours a week mostly around M25 in a manual.
Next car will be another auto, most likely a Mazda 6 though (going to a place where BIK only depends on list price, not CO2).
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Ps Mine is a company car and the tax aint that bad. If anyone can privately lease or buy, insure and maintain a brand new Golf GTi DSG for less than £200 a month let me know!
Guess it depends on your car scheme.... when its a cash alternative and you are paying for lease + (company) insurance + BIK.... trust me, its not £200! (and cheaper to take the cash and DIY)
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BIK for my company car is around 9k a year, still works out at less than 200 a month for company car tax.
Not sure how you end up paying more than 200 for a DSG GTD Fred? Even if you took say 7k cash as car allowance and then have to deal with lease, road tax, insurance, maintenance, tyres etc I assume you still get 45p a mile (HMRC limit where you don't have to pay tax) for driving on company business... that would still not be an awful lot more than a manual?
My manual was cheaper but not going back.... :smiley:
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Not all schemes are the same and as a company car user if you are being paid 45p a mile you'll need to pay the difference between that and the advisory fuel rate.
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When I you worked for the Government, they paid 45p for the first 10k and then 23p after that, considering I was doing 24k a year was not a good deal.
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Not sure how you end up paying more than 200 for a DSG GTD Fred? that would still not be an awful lot more than a manual?
Well, its one CO2 tax bracket higher for GTD DSG and its what, £1100 more for DSG. That's got to be 50 quid a month easily, probably more. I can't remember the figure I worked out.
Doesn't matter now, I kicked the company car thing in the bin last time anyway.
And...my company pay 11p per mile for people with a car allowance - whether its your car or theirs.
Remember HMRC limits are limits, they aren't commandments...
And yes, technically if you are receiving more than the HMRC rate as mileage expenses, its taxable income. Talking to my various friends and family though, an awful lot of employers seem to overlook this. Some even seem to overlook BIK altogether!
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With mine it varies, if you use your private car you get lots, i.e. 45p a mile but can only do that if you travel less than 10k pa on business.
On a company car they pay all incl fuel but charge me 11p per private mile (or 13 when I use the pool car due as it’s over 2l).
Think taxwise DSG works out around 30£ a month more for me. Doing 30k-45k on company business a year around the SE it was worth it for me, just for stop and go on M25 it is worth it (just turn ACC on).
Up near where you live I imagine roads are a lot clearer ;)
Think the most it will cost you in tax atm is £300 a month if you pay 40% tax on the car. Still a lot less than what it’d cost you privately (as much as I loathe giving it to the tax man who will hand it to the incompetent Tories and NI numpties).
I wouldn’t go back to a manual as my daily car as long as I can get a decent auto box. Though even as a fun car I like my DSG GTD, probably faster than a manual too.
If I really wanted to save tax I’d go for a fast medium van with fixed BIK or 1.5dci Dacia with low list price and negligable BIK :D
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This is my first auto after years of manuals.
Must have taken me about 6 months to get used to it.
Anyone that says you just put it into D and drive hasn't driven one long term.
It caught me out so many times when I first got it.
Joining the motorway from slip roads especially. I'd see a gap, press the accelerator and get nothing until the gears went from 6th to 3rd which seemed like an eternity. Roundabouts were also another test :grin:
Thankfully though Ive got to grips with it.