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Title: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: evo1986 on 30 April 2018, 10:40
This is all that's come out so far

Model year 2019 (MY19) production will start from week 31 (Monday 30 July) instead of week 22 this year.

Some engines (listed below) will be removed from ordering with immediate effect because MY18 production capacity has been reached. As part of our ongoing review to reduce the complexity of our product line-up, these engines will not be returning for MY19.

Golf Hatchback

S 1.4 TSI 125PS six-speed manual five-door - BQ12HX
S 1.4 TSI 125PS seven-speed DSG five-door - BQ12HZ
SE 1.4 TSI 125PS six-speed manual five-door - BQ13HX
SE 1.4 TSI 125PS seven-speed DSG five-door - BQ13HZ
SE Nav 1.4 TSI 125PS six-speed manual five-door - BQ13HX
SE Nav 1.4 TSI 125PS seven-speed DSG five-door - BQ13HZ

Golf Estate

S 1.4 TSI 125PS six-speed manual five-door - BV52HX
S 1.4 TSI 125PS seven-speed DSG  five-door - BV52HZ
SE 1.4 TSI 125PS six-speed manual five-door - BV53HX
SE 1.4 TSI 125PS seven-speed DSG five-door - BV53HZ
SE Nav 1.4 TSI 125PS six-speed manual five-door - BV53HX
SE Nav 1.4 TSI 125PS seven-speed DSG five-door - BV53HZ
Alltrack 1.8 TSI 4Motion 180PS six-speed DSG five-door - BV5CZR
Alltrack 2.0 150PS TDI six-speed 4Motion - BV5C6U

Passat Saloon

GT 1.6 TDI 120PS seven-speed DSG four-door - 3G242Z
R-Line 1.8 TSI 180PS seven-speed DSG four-door - 3G23JZ
S 1.6 TDI 120PS seven-speed DSG four-door - 3G222Z
SE Business 1.4 TSI 125PS seven-speed DSG four-door - 3G23BZ
SE Business 1.6 TDI 120PS seven-speed DSG four-door - 3G232Z

Passat Estate

GT 1.6 TDI 120PS seven-speed DSG five-door - 3G542Z
SE Business 1.6 TDI 120PS seven-speed DSG five-door - 3G532Z

Tiguan

SE Nav 1.4 TSI 4Motion 150PS six-speed DSG five-door - AD13NR

Tiguan Allspace

R-Line 2.0 TDI 4Motion 150PS six-speed manual five-door - BW246P
SEL 2.0 TDI 4Motion 150PS six-speed manual five-door - BW246P
SE Nav 2.0 TDI 4Motion 150PS six-speed manual five-door - BW236P
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: BobbyT on 01 May 2018, 04:47
Any spec changes to the Golf?
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: clidds on 14 May 2018, 16:20
Any update on build week changes? I’ve got a GTI PP on order with an estimated build week of week 32 so I’m keen to find out if there will be any changes?
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: evo1986 on 14 May 2018, 17:42
As soon as there is some news I will update, trust me.

Worth asking the retailer you ordered it through for them to also update you in case I am on holiday when it happens. That’s if there is any updates 😳
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: Maverick88 on 07 June 2018, 19:55
I'm just in the process of ordering, please see an excerpt from my transcript today from Live Chat.

Sean
The current lead time on the Golf R is 20 weeks but orders have stopped until August due to order
demand being filled for this year and to also meet with the week 31 specification change and WLTP
emissions change. 17:57

Tony
So does that mean the dealer cannot order the car until August ? 17:58

Sean
They can still take orders but the building process will not take place until August. 17:59
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: Guzzle on 07 June 2018, 20:01
Article here about this

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/volkswagen-faces-production-halt-amid-wltp-certification-delays
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: BobbyT on 08 June 2018, 02:58
yay petrol DPF's! Glad I got mine before the change  :whistle:
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: Sootchucker on 08 June 2018, 07:20
Yeah, you and me both. After coming from 12 years of diesel engine cars, and the last 7 years with DPF's, it's finally nice to not have to worry about it and take the longer route home each evening just to give the car chance to complete it's regen.

Wonder if the petrol particulate filters need the same care as diesel ones and must be driven for a minimum time to avoid the filter blocking and allow regen ? If they work similar to the diesel ones, I can see a lot of school run and shopping run only cars developing problems real quick.
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: ar899 on 08 June 2018, 08:21
I do high mileage but want to go petrol to avoid things like DPF........might as well go diesel then
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: Sootchucker on 08 June 2018, 08:26
actually since posting above I've been reading up on Gasoline particulate filters (GPF). It seems they will differ considerably from the ones fitted to diesel engines. As petrol engine exhaust temperatures are much higher than diesel, apparently the cars will not need to do active regens as it will regen on the fly as soon as the car is up to temperature, (which is very quickly), and apparently the regens will finish much quicker than on diesel engines. They have basically said it will be pretty transparent to the average driver, and won't actually affect the use and mileage of the car at all.


About the only downside is the extra tech on board (which is something else to go wrong), and I guess there will have to be another price increase to cover the expense of the tech ?
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: ar899 on 08 June 2018, 08:33
At least I would actually be able to order a GTD (as opposed to a GTI).
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: fredgroves on 08 June 2018, 08:51
I do high mileage but want to go petrol to avoid things like DPF........might as well go diesel then

If you are doing high mileage you don't have to worry about a DPF at all.

I'm a mile muncher and absolutely don't have any worries about DPF.
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: ar899 on 08 June 2018, 08:57
The problem is the type of mileage I do. Week to week it is short trips around town - not good for diesel.

These are complemented by regular 600 mile round trips - good for diesel.

Overall, I do about 17K/year which is (or maybe was) diesel mileage.
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: fredgroves on 08 June 2018, 09:09
What do taxi drivers do?
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: mcmaddy on 08 June 2018, 09:56
The problem is the type of mileage I do. Week to week it is short trips around town - not good for diesel.

These are complemented by regular 600 mile round trips - good for diesel.

Overall, I do about 17K/year which is (or maybe was) diesel mileage.
Your regular 600 mile trip will negate any issue with the shorter journeys you do.
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: ar899 on 08 June 2018, 10:33
I'm not sure about that. I had a diesel hire car for a couple of weeks. After nearly every short trip, the fan had kicked in - I'm not technical enough to know what that is a sign off, but it didn't sound happy......
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: fredgroves on 08 June 2018, 11:17
The fan runs after a DPF regen is completed to cool it down so as to not set fire to stuff under the car....
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: rjwojcik on 08 June 2018, 13:46
actually since posting above I've been reading up on Gasoline particulate filters (GPF). It seems they will differ considerably from the ones fitted to diesel engines. As petrol engine exhaust temperatures are much higher than diesel, apparently the cars will not need to do active regens as it will regen on the fly as soon as the car is up to temperature, (which is very quickly), and apparently the regens will finish much quicker than on diesel engines. They have basically said it will be pretty transparent to the average driver, and won't actually affect the use and mileage of the car at all.


About the only downside is the extra tech on board (which is something else to go wrong), and I guess there will have to be another price increase to cover the expense of the tech ?

Do GPFs affect the power output?
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: BobbyT on 08 June 2018, 14:09
I would think they would a little. It's another restriction in the exhaust, they may have to tweak the map to get the power up a little.
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: fredgroves on 08 June 2018, 14:17
actually since posting above I've been reading up on Gasoline particulate filters (GPF)... apparently the cars will not need to do active regens

A quite up to date article:

https://www.dieselnet.com/tech/gasoline_particulate_filters.php (https://www.dieselnet.com/tech/gasoline_particulate_filters.php)

Quote
The GPF regenerates passively, but an active regeneration assist is needed to prevent filter plugging during low temperature duty cycles. Ash has an impact on GPF performance and—if the GPF is coated with a three-way catalyst—can be a source of catalyst poisoning.

Sounds to me like GPF Mk1 will be the same abortion as the earlier DPF's...

And of course...

Quote
One of the early applications of a coated GPF was the 1.0 TSI engine used in the 2018 VW up! GTI city car.
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: clidds on 09 June 2018, 22:47
I have noticed that the online configurator has been updated again and a new price list uploaded.

The only changes I can see is that pure white paint has now become a no cost option...
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: hog_hedge on 09 June 2018, 23:24
The rear view camera has jumped from £265 to £340 :cry:
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: spills on 09 June 2018, 23:27
5dr DSG £105 dearer
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: Guzzle on 09 June 2018, 23:27
Yep, well spotted clidds.

Looks like dog poo burgundy black rubin is discontinued.  :grin:

Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: mcmaddy on 10 June 2018, 09:16
The rear view camera has jumped from £265 to £340 :cry:
£75 extra for a rear camera is a joke!!
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: Jeff Wood on 10 June 2018, 09:21
Why on earth do you need a reverse camera on a small hatchback  :smiley:
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: Watts on 10 June 2018, 09:25
The rear view camera has jumped from £265 to £340 :cry:
£75 extra for a rear camera is a joke!!

It was £165 in 2015. That's a phenomenal rate of inflation!

Yep, well spotted clidds.

Looks like dog poo burgundy black rubin is discontinued.  :grin:

I saw a GTD in Black Rubin at the dealers the other day. What I couldn't understand was the first owner specced leather at whatever the overinflated cost that was yet wouldn't spend even sub £300 to get a better colour :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: ne0star on 10 June 2018, 09:45
I saw a GTD in Black Rubin at the dealers the other day. What I couldn't understand was the first owner specced leather at whatever the overinflated cost that was yet wouldn't spend even sub £300 to get a better colour :rolleyes:

I wonder if anyone has been caught out by the dealers rubbish example photo of that colour.  When I was ordering my GTI they search the sales pipeline using an iPad and all the colour examples are basically what you get using the configurator app.  I remember it looked predominantly black in the photo.
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: hog_hedge on 10 June 2018, 13:28
Why on earth do you need a reverse camera on a small hatchback  :smiley:

It gives the dog something to look at when I’m reversing :whistle:
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: mcmaddy on 10 June 2018, 15:39
Why on earth do you need a reverse camera on a small hatchback  :smiley:
Why not?? Why do people spec sunroofs when you get windows and climate control?
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: Jeff Wood on 10 June 2018, 16:02
That's different though...people get the pano roof to let in the cabin and/or because they think it looks good.

Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: hog_hedge on 10 June 2018, 16:43
Why on earth do you need a reverse camera on a small hatchback  :smiley:
Why not?? Why do people spec sunroofs when you get windows and climate control?

Going forward I will always spec reverse camera, I find it so useful.
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: Guzzle on 10 June 2018, 16:50
Why on earth do you need a reverse camera on a small hatchback  :smiley:
Why not?? Why do people spec sunroofs when you get windows and climate control?

Going forward I will always spec reverse camera, I find it so useful.

I spec mine for going backwards  :laugh:

You could argue that most of the items on the options list are superfluous, but the rear camera and the climate screen are two fairly inexpensive options that i've found it advantageous to have.
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: Jeff Wood on 10 June 2018, 16:52
I agree...its all about VW trying to sell you extras that you really don't need :)
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: mcmaddy on 10 June 2018, 23:27
Well the camera is ideal for people with back and neck issues. So handy and it really does help, I'll more than likely spec it again the next time.
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: BobbyT on 10 June 2018, 23:41
The rear cam is good for the estate as it has a whales bottom added to the five door  :grin:
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: SRGTD on 11 June 2018, 01:25
Well the camera is ideal for people with back and neck issues. So handy and it really does help, I'll more than likely spec it again the next time.

@mcmaddy you’re spot on! I’m one of those people and the reversing camera really does help.
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: SRGTD on 11 June 2018, 17:11
I have noticed that the online configurator has been updated again and a new price list uploaded.

The only changes I can see is that pure white paint has now become a no cost option...

Something that was pointed out on the VW Polo forum is that the factory warranty extension to 4 or 5 years that you could spec at the time of ordering a new car has been dropped. It used to appear in the price list in the same section as the service plan information but it’s no longer there. It isn’t in the list of selectable options in the configurator either, and it’s been removed from the ‘Warranty’ section on VW’s website. So, not being included in the price list doesn’t look to be an error; it looks as if VW have stopped offering this.

You can still buy an extended warranty when your car gets to 3 years old, but it won’t be as comprehensive as the extended factory warranty, and it’ll probably cost more - especially if you opt for the ‘all component’ level of cover with nil excess.

Maybe the number and type of warranty claims in years 4 and 5 we’re making it unsustainable for VW to continue offering this?
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: Mark V GTD on 11 June 2018, 21:08
Or they are just about to extend the standard factory warranty to five years?

Hmm, dream on methinks  :whistle:
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: BobbyT on 11 June 2018, 21:32
they offer 5 year warranty in the USA for free on all new cars. Maybe they'll bring that in Europe wide to match some other brands?
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: SRGTD on 11 June 2018, 22:01
Or they are just about to extend the standard factory warranty to five years?

Hmm, dream on methinks  :whistle:

Wishful thinking maybe? The latest price list (p48) still makes reference to VW’s new car warranty as a 3 year warranty.

they offer 5 year warranty in the USA for free on all new cars. Maybe they'll bring that in Europe wide to match some other brands?

Judging by some of the comments on other Golf forums where membership is predominantly USA/Canadian owners, VW cars seem to have a perception of having questionable reliability, and not particularly strong residual values. A five year warranty is probably provided in the US to help entice customers to the brand. I dare say VW don’t feel the need to offer a standard 5 year warranty in the UK for the same reason.

Interestingly, the configurators on Audi, Skoda and Seat websites still have the option to extend the new car factory warranty to four or five years. I’d have thought it unlikely that VW would be out of step with the other VAG brands, so maybe when those websites are next updated, the option to extend the factory warranty to 4 / 5 years will be removed?
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: BobbyT on 11 June 2018, 22:55
Yes VW have a really bad reputation, i wish I hadn't bought a two year old CC when I moved to the states. Took a massive hit when selling up. Hey ho, live and learn. I should of bought a Dodge even if they are rubbish they hold their value better  :undecided:
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: Guzzle on 16 June 2018, 21:08
Over on Briskoda forum it's being reported that MY19 245bhp petrol vRS Octavia's will now only have one exhaust. Wonder if this is just for the Octy or if it'll apply to the GTI too :undecided:
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: SRGTD on 16 June 2018, 21:31
Over on Briskoda forum it's being reported that MY19 245bhp petrol vRS Octavia's will now only have one exhaust. Wonder if this is just for the Octy or if it'll apply to the GTI too :undecided:

And over on seatcupra.net, it’s being reported by a forum member who works for a Seat dealership that orders for the 300ps Cupra closed yesterday. Ordering for MY19 Cupras will be 290ps DSG-only. The 4WD Cupra ST (estate) DSG model is unaffected and will continue to be 300ps.
Title: Re: Model year 2019 production to start from week 31 2018
Post by: Maverick88 on 29 June 2018, 21:38
On the Audi forum the MY19 S3 is going back to 300PS.