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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: clarky92 on 23 March 2018, 19:23
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I ran a 2017 7.5 GTI 230 and from almost new it would DSG fart on an upshift and sounded awesome. Got louder as more miles went on
But my 2018 7.5 PP wont DSG fart at all. Done 750 miles on it. However on start up the exhaust cracks and burbles really well, something my 2017 never did on startup.
Anyone got a 2018 which DSG farts on upshift? Mine was build early Jan if thats any relevance
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Maybe give it bit more of a chance to run in and then see if it does it.
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I laughed. :grin:
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Not even in sport mode ?
No, tried all the modes. My 2017 7.5 used to in eco mode lol
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I ran a 2017 7.5 GTI 230 and from almost new it would DSG fart on an upshift and sounded awesome. Got louder as more miles went on
But my 2018 7.5 PP wont DSG fart at all. Done 750 miles on it. However on start up the exhaust cracks and burbles really well, something my 2017 never did on startup.
Anyone got a 2018 which DSG farts on upshift? Mine was build early Jan if thats any relevance
Do you think it has anything to do with the new 7 speed gearbox? It seems like someone else is having this issue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZE7MgscBfM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZE7MgscBfM)
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I ran a 2017 7.5 GTI 230 and from almost new it would DSG fart on an upshift and sounded awesome. Got louder as more miles went on
But my 2018 7.5 PP wont DSG fart at all. Done 750 miles on it. However on start up the exhaust cracks and burbles really well, something my 2017 never did on startup.
Anyone got a 2018 which DSG farts on upshift? Mine was build early Jan if thats any relevance
Do you think it has anything to do with the new 7 speed gearbox? It seems like someone else is having this issue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZE7MgscBfM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZE7MgscBfM)
Could be, I think its the very newest 2018's may have new software update or calibration. I drove a 2017 7.5 PP and it did dsg fart, that was a sub 1k mileage demo aswell.
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I ran a 2017 7.5 GTI 230 and from almost new it would DSG fart on an upshift and sounded awesome. Got louder as more miles went on
But my 2018 7.5 PP wont DSG fart at all. Done 750 miles on it. However on start up the exhaust cracks and burbles really well, something my 2017 never did on startup.
Anyone got a 2018 which DSG farts on upshift? Mine was build early Jan if thats any relevance
Does your Car sound like mine?. I agree about the farts, but think the car is pretty loud and have a nice sound anyway.
https://youtu.be/kzlVJljqU2w (https://youtu.be/kzlVJljqU2w)
But as you say little strange about the farts :smiley:.
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Mine doesn’t as far as I can tell. Both the other two would do it on the up shift as soon as you got to 3000rpm and the R used burble and occasionally pop on the downshift too !!
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Turn the sound actr off.. You probably can't hear them. I took around 9k until mine became very prominant.
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Turn the sound actr off.. You probably can't hear them. I took around 9k until mine became very prominant.
His previous car is a non PP 7.5 so he knows what he’s listening for.
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Looking online at other owner reviews, looks like Im not alone. New DSG7/ software for the GTI looks like the cause.
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Hello clarky92,
On this subject, do you know anything about the respect of what might be the reason why these DSG FARts are not produced?
This week I'm going to receive a Golf 7.5 Performance and it has left me worried, as I assumed that it was obvious that this model also made them.
It seems that a user has reported the same problem and attached a screenshot showing that the Golf R has exactly the same gearbox (DSG7) but different software...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZE7MgscBfM
If that is the case, does anyone know if the software can be updated or if the VAG brand itself could call for a revision to update the software?
Thank you very much and greetings from Spain
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Hello clarky92,
On this subject, do you know anything about the respect of what might be the reason why these DSG FARts are not produced?
This week I'm going to receive a Golf 7.5 Performance and it has left me worried, as I assumed that it was obvious that this model also made them.
It seems that a user has reported the same problem and attached a screenshot showing that the Golf R has exactly the same gearbox (DSG7) but different software...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZE7MgscBfM
If that is the case, does anyone know if the software can be updated or if the VAG brand itself could call for a revision to update the software?
Thank you very much and greetings from Spain
The GTI 7.5 PP has different dsg software to a non PP 7.5
Only way to get the dsg farts back are aftermarket dsg tune
Only think I dont like about my 7.5 PP - the dsg farts were awesome on my old gti
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I have talk to one of the best tuners in Sweden, that have made new software to the 7,5 PP and the DQ381 DSG. :smiley:
And it is NOTHING to do with the new DQ381!
Is is all in the software to the Engine!
VW have big problem with warrenty on Catalyst that the DSG farts cause :sad:. So they have talken away the "farts" on the PP to Save the 2 Catalyst that is standard on the PP nowdays... :huh:
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That change to no fart has coincided with the introduction with the new 7 speed DSG box....
Cars with the old 6 speed should do it, new 7 speed highly likely won't.
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I test drove a mk 7 PP DSG "extensively" and it did make DSG farts alright.
I've got a new mk 7.5 PP DSG with about 6000 km on the clock now and it definitely doesn't make the same pops.
On the other hand, I think there is more noise in general out of the larger mk 7.5 pipes.
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My understanding of the reason behind this relates to differences in the exhaust system, and likely engine software to improve fuel consumption and CO2 emissions etc.
It doesn't have anything to do with DSG gearbox and/or software.
The exhaust system (predominantly the catalytic converters) are newly designed and much more restrictive on the 7.5 Performance/Non-Performance. There are no differences in the exhaust system from 7.5 Performance/Non-Performance they are identical (same assembly, part numbers etc).
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My understanding of the reason behind this relates to differences in the exhaust system, and likely engine software to improve fuel consumption and CO2 emissions etc.
It doesn't have anything to do with DSG gearbox and/or software.
The exhaust system (predominantly the catalytic converters) are newly designed and much more restrictive on the 7.5 Performance/Non-Performance. There are no differences in the exhaust system from 7.5 Performance/Non-Performance they are identical (same assembly, part numbers etc).
This is some great information, are you 100% sure that they are the same exhausts? I wonder why the Performance sounds a more throaty that the normal one.
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My understanding of the reason behind this relates to differences in the exhaust system, and likely engine software to improve fuel consumption and CO2 emissions etc.
It doesn't have anything to do with DSG gearbox and/or software.
The exhaust system (predominantly the catalytic converters) are newly designed and much more restrictive on the 7.5 Performance/Non-Performance. There are no differences in the exhaust system from 7.5 Performance/Non-Performance they are identical (same assembly, part numbers etc).
I will 100% confirm that there is a difference somewhere there must be.
My 7.5 with NO PP and 6DSG made very loud DSG farts from new .
My 7.5 WITH PP and 7DSG makes no DSG farts what so ever.
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My understanding of the reason behind this relates to differences in the exhaust system, and likely engine software to improve fuel consumption and CO2 emissions etc.
It doesn't have anything to do with DSG gearbox and/or software.
The exhaust system (predominantly the catalytic converters) are newly designed and much more restrictive on the 7.5 Performance/Non-Performance. There are no differences in the exhaust system from 7.5 Performance/Non-Performance they are identical (same assembly, part numbers etc).
I will 100% confirm that there is a difference somewhere there must be.
My 7.5 with NO PP and 6DSG made very loud DSG farts from new .
My 7.5 WITH PP and 7DSG makes no DSG farts what so ever.
I'm sure, I checked because I noticed my 2018 7.5 Performance didn't sound anything like a 7 Performance so I was intrigued.
Part numbers and assembly are identical, the only difference I guess is engine ECU software owing to power difference (again other than gearbox, there are no physical differences between a standard and Performance model engine.
The standard/performance models run different engine codes but as far as I know there are no significant or any hardware differences it is purely software. The engine codes used in the non performance 7.5 are an older variant e.g. CHHA than the newer variant DLBA etc in 7.5 PP so may be subtle differences there.
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we thought it was due to gearbox but sadly neither of the new GTI's did it performance or non performance. Seems VW has just got rid of it.
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we thought it was due to gearbox but sadly neither of the new GTI's did it performance or non performance. Seems VW has just got rid of it.
Do you think my 17 DSG farter will be updated to no farts come service time?
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we thought it was due to gearbox but sadly neither of the new GTI's did it performance or non performance. Seems VW has just got rid of it.
Do you think my 17 DSG farter will be updated to no farts come service time?
no it only seems to affect new ones
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we thought it was due to gearbox but sadly neither of the new GTI's did it performance or non performance. Seems VW has just got rid of it.
Do you think my 17 DSG farter will be updated to no farts come service time?
no it only seems to affect new ones
This is interesting as when I test drove a 7.5 with PP and DSG7 when the facelift first launched it did DSG fart on the test drive. Wonder when the switch over
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It’s Fartgate lol !! grin: :grin: :grin:
I want my fart back !!
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I have a late 2017 GTI standard and think it farts but tell me what exactly I should be listening for. When I put my car in Sport and give it some revs it does give a puff between gears. Is that what I am expecting or something louder.
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I have a late 2017 GTI standard and think it farts but tell me what exactly I should be listening for. When I put my car in Sport and give it some revs it does give a puff between gears. Is that what I am expecting or something louder.
It should sound like this:
https://youtu.be/OTfAimiiEYM (https://youtu.be/OTfAimiiEYM)
Watch until end and you’ll hear the farts clearly.
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we thought it was due to gearbox but sadly neither of the new GTI's did it performance or non performance. Seems VW has just got rid of it.
Do you think my 17 DSG farter will be updated to no farts come service time?
no it only seems to affect new ones
Hello good morning!
So, if it only affects new models with DSG7 gearbox, is the golf R model not affected? Because watching videos of the new Golf R the farts it releases through the exhaust are very strong. regards!
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I have talk to one of the best tuners in Sweden, that have made new software to the 7,5 PP and the DQ381 DSG. :smiley:
And it is NOTHING to do with the new DQ381!
Is is all in the software to the Engine!
VW have big problem with warrenty on Catalyst that the DSG farts cause :sad:. So they have talken away the "farts" on the PP to Save the 2 Catalyst that is standard on the PP nowdays... :huh:
Hello Wide!
I just hope that through software they can offer us the opportunity to hear those farts again....because this week they give me the GTI7.5 PP and this news has disappointed me a little...
The last point you made I don't understand, you mean, VW has problems with farts in the GTI and that with this catalyst in the PP they fix it? Regards!!
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we thought it was due to gearbox but sadly neither of the new GTI's did it performance or non performance. Seems VW has just got rid of it.
Do you think my 17 DSG farter will be updated to no farts come service time?
no it only seems to affect new ones
Hello good morning!
So, if it only affects new models with DSG7 gearbox, is the golf R model not affected? Because watching videos of the new Golf R the farts it releases through the exhaust are very strong. regards!
Correct 7.5 Golf R with 7DSG STILL makes DSG farts
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It definitely still does it on new non PP DSG GTI’s . My brand new 7.5 DSG GTI that I picked up this week does it. Obviously I can’t redline it yet, but just letting the Revs pickup a bit and it’s pretty prominent.
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It’s Fartgate lol !! grin: :grin: :grin:
I want my fart back !!
With all this farting going on.People will need to be careful they don't follow through!. :grin:
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It definitely still does it on new non PP DSG GTI’s . My brand new 7.5 DSG GTI that I picked up this week does it. Obviously I can’t redline it yet, but just letting the Revs pickup a bit and it’s pretty prominent.
Thanks for this, so just the DSG7 GTI PP 7.5 that doesnt. Wonder what VW did
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Yes my standard GTI DSG picked up Nov 2017 can be made to fart in sport mode.
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Oh no! Bit of disappointing read. I've just gone and ordered my GTI PP DSG... should be arriving late June, so I guess I'll have to wait to see if I've got a farter or not! :grin:
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Seems a lot of tuners online coding/addind the pops and farts in while doing remaps etc. It's not just on pp gti's it's on R's too and plenty of Audi's.
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Oh no! Bit of disappointing read. I've just gone and ordered my GTI PP DSG... should be arriving late June, so I guess I'll have to wait to see if I've got a farter or not! :grin:
I'm sure i saw 'fart mode' on the options list a while back. :smiley:
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Give it some beans :grin: and it should fart ok.
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Give it some beans :grin: and it should fart ok.
Thanks, I see you dont have the PP so yes it would work. Wanting to know if any 7.5 PP owners have got it working
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Has anyone found any way that this issue can be rectified on the Performance model?
Must say, with mine only having done a 100 miles or so, whilst it definitely sounds beefier exhaust wise than my 230 DSG, it is disappointing that there is no upshift fart!
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Maybe VW have finally realised how embarrassing the sounds were and did away with them :whistle:
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Has anyone found any way that this issue can be rectified on the Performance model?
Must say, with mine only having done a 100 miles or so, whilst it definitely sounds beefier exhaust wise than my 230 DSG, it is disappointing that there is no upshift fart!
Hi mate, unfortunately not. Ive called loads of tuners and the only way is either vw release updated dsg software for the 7.5 GTI PP with the farts or ypu find someone to custom map it for you
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Maybe VW have finally realised how embarrassing the sounds were and did away with them :whistle:
Yes, maybe, that could well be a possibility.
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My 2018 DSG estate makes the up shift noises. I've only done 1500k so far
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Hi everyone
I write from Italy translating, excuse my English.
I would like to know if anyone has managed to return the "fart sound" to the GTI PP FL. If someone has succeeded I would like to know how he did it.
Thanks in advance to those who answer.
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Hi, I’ve not heard of anyone being able to do it yet, remap or otherwise.