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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Jim_mk7.5 on 16 March 2018, 10:40
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Has anyone seen the 18" version of the Pretoria on a GTI or GTD? Considering a purchase. Not sure if they will look a little small as obviously most Prets are 19" on the R. They are the same size and offset and size as my Parkers so would be straight swap and pop on some PS4 tyres. Guessing they might be a bit lighter than the Parkers?
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Google says:
http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30973
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Would you go for silver or black? I'm assuming you've seen them on ebay, seem like a pretty good deal plus the saving in 18 vs 19" tyres. Sounds a good idea to me :smiley:
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They are the same size and offset and size as my Parkers
They`d certainly look better. Do it !
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To me the 18" Prets looked a bit small although it could be that I'm so used to 19" Pretorias that my mind triggers an alarm when I see them at a smaller size :tongue:
Regarding weight I wouldn't count on them being considerably lower, they seem to weigh around 25-26.5lbs according to different sources. How heavy are the Parkers?
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I was briefly considering a set to run as winter wheels, but in the end I decided to stick with my black Neptune's in the same size and offset.
Weight is similar to the standard 18 inch alloys AFAIK as they’re cast. Don't think size-wise they'll look too bad if your existing wheels are 18 inch, but they're obviously not going to fill the arches as well as the 19 inch version.
Colour-wise i'd go for black, as the silver isn't the same shade as the 19 version. I think the 18 is a brighter shade of silver than the 19 inch version.
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Colour-wise i'd go for black, as the silver isn't the same shade as the 19 version. I think the 18 is a brighter shade of silver than the 19 inch version.
I actually considered 18` Prets in silver but as you say it`s not exactly the same colour as the 19` Prets which put me off.
Black wheels usually look terrible, depends on the car colour :smiley:
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Am I correct in thinking that the 18" prets are cast rather than forged (like the 19" ones) and may in fact be heavier?
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Am I correct in thinking that the 18" prets are cast rather than forged (like the 19" ones) and may in fact be heavier?
19" Prets are not forged but flow-formed and they weigh 21lbs. 18" Prets are cast and betweenn 25-26.5lbs (different sources). AFAIK the only forged OEM VW wheel is the stock Clubsport Belvedere wheel weighing 16.7lbs
(https://i.imgur.com/aJHBKRi.jpg)
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Has anyone seen the 18" version of the Pretoria on a GTI or GTD? Considering a purchase. Not sure if they will look a little small as obviously most Prets are 19" on the R. They are the same size and offset and size as my Parkers so would be straight swap and pop on some PS4 tyres. Guessing they might be a bit lighter than the Parkers?
The 18" Prets are heavy and sit too far into the arches.
Go for something like a Borbet FF1 in 18" which is strong, light, a similar style to Pretoria and funnily enough comes out of the same factory as most OEM VW wheels.
The FF1 comes in 8" width which will sit the tyre more squarely and also a 45mm offset which will sit the wheel in the arch more squarely.
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Nice and light too those Borbets! About a grand for a set...
What do insurers say about changing wheels? If you had VW ones they might not notice...
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Nice and light too those Borbets! About a grand for a set...
What do insurers say about changing wheels? If you had VW ones they might not notice...
Insurers approach to changing wheels may vary from one insurer to another. You’ll almost certainly find something in the small print of your insurance policy that states it’s a requirement of your insurer that they are told of any modification, so that would include changing the wheels fitted to your car when it was built to an alternative set (VW wheels or otherwise).
The general subject of modifications and insurance IMO is a bit of a can of worms. From what I’ve read on some forums, some insurers even consider factory fitted options to be modifications and need to know what each of the options are. Others don’t need to be told of factory fitted options (My insurer doesn’t) and only need to know of anything that changes the spec that the car left the factory with. It must be quite difficult if someone doesn’t know whether their car is standard or not (e.g. if they bought it used and didn’t spec it themselves); what do they declare to their insurer?
I’ve changed the wheels on my last two cars - both times for VW wheels and I informed my insurer each time. They wanted to know the value of the wheels and confirmation I had locking wheel bolts fitted. It’s noted on my policy record that I have non factory fit wheels as a modification.
I would say it’s best to always notify your insurer of any changes. Worse case scenario; not telling them could invalidate your insurance, which could technically mean you are uninsured (a criminal offence!).
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Cheers all, yes was looking at gloss black ones. Just not sure if they will look too small. I know they are the same size as my current ones but I've only seen 19s in Prets. The pics on the first reply do make them look a bit small but that GTI also seems to be sitting quite high?
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I think they'll look fine, especially in black.
The German VW configurator used to allow you to spec these, not sure if it still does. Thst would give you an idea of how it would look.
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http://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/21305-18-inch-pretorias-in-sterling-silver-fittedinstalled/
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http://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/21305-18-inch-pretorias-in-sterling-silver-fittedinstalled/
They actually look great!
Certainly better then black !!
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I actually think they look better in black. The silver is a little too bright and plain looking (to my eyes anyway).