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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: BobbyT on 06 March 2018, 02:23

Title: Suspension advice
Post by: BobbyT on 06 March 2018, 02:23
Hi all, just after other peoples thoughts. I want to lower my R and have nearly gone for  a set of B16 coilovers. I can get them fitted for around 1380 which seems like a great deal. My estate will only be used for family and the odd blast.

I can get VWR springs which I think offer a great look for 400 pounds..... Should I just save myself a k and get the springs.... I've read soooo many threads about suspension I've got square eyes.

Will I end up buying cheap and buying twice or are the springs a good solution on the Golf platform.

Thanks,

Rob
Title: Re: Suspension advice
Post by: mcmaddy on 06 March 2018, 10:28
Why not just save all your money and leave the R the way it is? Why ruin it?
Title: Re: Suspension advice
Post by: Gnasher on 06 March 2018, 11:28
Why not just save all your money and leave the R the way it is? Why ruin it?

Surely it's down to personal preference as to what he does with his car? Nice constructive post BTW.

To the OP - If you were tracking the car, I'd say go with the B16s. However if it's mainly for looks, just go for springs. I run Eibach Sportlines on mine and they're spot on. If you want a little more OEM comfort, go with the Pro-kit. The sportlines lower the front slightly more than the Pro-kit but result in a slightly harsher ride.
Title: Re: Suspension advice
Post by: scanesare on 06 March 2018, 11:38
I came across a random post on FB yesterday on a MK7 group about someone claiming the VWR springs ruined his ride and that after being replaced with Eibachs the ride got much better, although suspension preferences are always subjective to an extent.

My opinion is that since you are interested in looks, B16's are an overkill and a correctly chosen springs set is all you need.
Title: Re: Suspension advice
Post by: mcmaddy on 06 March 2018, 13:21
Why not just save all your money and leave the R the way it is? Why ruin it?

Surely it's down to personal preference as to what he does with his car? Nice constructive post BTW.

To the OP - If you were tracking the car, I'd say go with the B16s. However if it's mainly for looks, just go for springs. I run Eibach Sportlines on mine and they're spot on. If you want a little more OEM comfort, go with the Pro-kit. The sportlines lower the front slightly more than the Pro-kit but result in a slightly harsher ride.
Wtf are you talking about?? All I said was another option which was save all the money and don't change the springs. Of course it's down to personal preference and it's his car but my response is no better or worse than yours!!
Title: Re: Suspension advice
Post by: BobbyT on 06 March 2018, 14:17
I'd be lowering the car for looks and to take a little body roll out. I don't want it 'slammed' as I'm getting a bit old for that kind of look now and I'm sure my wife wouldn't thank me either.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Suspension advice
Post by: Damian @ DPM on 06 March 2018, 14:19
Another vote for the Eibach springs.

Damian @ DPM Performance
Title: Re: Suspension advice
Post by: mcmaddy on 06 March 2018, 14:36
I had eibachs on my MK4 gttdi golf and they were excellent.
Title: Re: Suspension advice
Post by: 7MAT on 06 March 2018, 14:47
Another vote for Eibach Pro Line springs, hated my VWR springs. Took them off after just a week as ride quality was terrible.
Title: Re: Suspension advice
Post by: scanesare on 06 March 2018, 14:48
Another vote for Eibach Pro Line springs, hated my VWR springs. Took them off after just a week as ride quality was terrible.

I came across a random post on FB yesterday on a MK7 group about someone claiming the VWR springs ruined his ride and that after being replaced with Eibachs the ride got much better, although suspension preferences are always subjective to an extent.

You're not that guy in the MK7 group on FB right??  :tongue:
Title: Re: Suspension advice
Post by: 7MAT on 06 March 2018, 14:54
Another vote for Eibach Pro Line springs, hated my VWR springs. Took them off after just a week as ride quality was terrible.

I came across a random post on FB yesterday on a MK7 group about someone claiming the VWR springs ruined his ride and that after being replaced with Eibachs the ride got much better, although suspension preferences are always subjective to an extent.

You're not that guy in the MK7 group on FB right??  :tongue:

No that's not me.  :grin:
Title: Re: Suspension advice
Post by: dubber36 on 06 March 2018, 16:48
I'd be lowering the car for looks and to take a little body roll out. I don't want it 'slammed' as I'm getting a bit old for that kind of look now and I'm sure my wife wouldn't thank me either.  :whistle:

No point at all spending all that money on coilovers then.
Title: Re: Suspension advice
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 06 March 2018, 21:10
Why not just save all your money and leave the R the way it is? Why ruin it?

Surely it's down to personal preference as to what he does with his car? Nice constructive post BTW.

To the OP - If you were tracking the car, I'd say go with the B16s. However if it's mainly for looks, just go for springs. I run Eibach Sportlines on mine and they're spot on. If you want a little more OEM comfort, go with the Pro-kit. The sportlines lower the front slightly more than the Pro-kit but result in a slightly harsher ride.
Wtf are you talking about?? All I said was another option which was save all the money and don't change the springs. Of course it's down to personal preference and it's his car but my response is no better or worse than yours!!

Chill out guy's  :smiley:
Title: Re: Suspension advice
Post by: wigit on 06 March 2018, 21:26
Based on my experiences on the R and lowering over two years:

H&R's made the car skittish especially at the rear
VWR I had issues with quality and got through about 3 sets of front springs, I believe they resolved issues
Eibach were the best of the lot and in reality I have always tended to prefer their offering to the OEM

Best driving R I have been in had B16s on and would be my choice as the damping is simple to adjust and you can tailor things

Why not just save all your money and leave the R the way it is? Why ruin it?

Because the stock suspension for me is the week point and crashy.
Title: Re: Suspension advice
Post by: BobbyT on 06 March 2018, 21:58
Based on my experiences on the R and lowering over two years:

H&R's made the car skittish especially at the rear
VWR I had issues with quality and got through about 3 sets of front springs, I believe they resolved issues
Eibach were the best of the lot and in reality I have always tended to prefer their offering to the OEM

Best driving R I have been in had B16s on and would be my choice as the damping is simple to adjust and you can tailor things

Why not just save all your money and leave the R the way it is? Why ruin it?

Because the stock suspension for me is the week point and crashy.

So you think it might be worth going for the B16 over just the VWR springs?
Title: Re: Suspension advice
Post by: wigit on 06 March 2018, 22:09
If I was going springs I would go Eibach over VWR as seem to suit the stock dampers

If my car was non DCC i  would go for the B16s, i ran them on my Mk6 and had Revo's mk7 R for a week with them on and loved them

After a few months on the B16s on my mk6 i got dialled into the settings and set ups as ran them relatively soft on the road
Title: Re: Suspension advice
Post by: Gnasher on 07 March 2018, 12:17
Based on my experiences on the R and lowering over two years:

H&R's made the car skittish especially at the rear
VWR I had issues with quality and got through about 3 sets of front springs, I believe they resolved issues
Eibach were the best of the lot and in reality I have always tended to prefer their offering to the OEM

Best driving R I have been in had B16s on and would be my choice as the damping is simple to adjust and you can tailor things

Why not just save all your money and leave the R the way it is? Why ruin it?

Because the stock suspension for me is the week point and crashy.

So you think it might be worth going for the B16 over just the VWR springs?

If money were no object, I'd have gone for something like B16s but for what I wanted (which sounds suspiciously like what you seem to want) springs were spot on. I might (at some stage) get some Bilstein shocks to go with them (can't remember if it's the B6 or B8 that are shortened) which is another option on top of your 2 original one's.

As I said earlier, personally I'd go for Eibachs over VWRs - I did a lot of research before getting mine and whilst it's quite a decent drop, it's not crashy whereas I'd heard a few people saying the VWR one's weren't up to much.
Title: Re: Suspension advice
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 07 March 2018, 14:04
Similar boat here, looking at either B14 coils or Eibach pro springs with B4 dampers.

Read a lot about the suspension set ups, and the usual culprit for crashy ride is the dampers being overstressed by an greater then 1.5" drop which I think the VWR springs supply. Also the rear seems to suffer with OEM rattle from the rear dampers, which most report the bilsteins fix.

Decisions decisions....
Title: Re: Suspension advice
Post by: sharper on 09 March 2018, 16:42
Go for a set of Ohlins road and track. The ride quality is better than standard, they lower the car a little and improve the handling. I’ve tried them all and they’re in a different league. They’re not cheap but you won’t have to do it twice!