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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: clarky92 on 10 January 2018, 10:28
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Hi everyone,
Could I have some advice please. Looking at changing my car. My preferred spec would be 7.5 GTI Performance Pack DSG 5 door in metallic black. Only other option would be keyless.
I used car wow and my local dealer has come back with £27,614 which is 15.3% off list price. This includes the VW £1,500 finance contribution offer valid until end of this January 2018.
Same spec on drive the deal comes back at a little under £27,090 including the finance offer, so my local dealer isn’t far off.
The extra £500 vw finance contribution is valid if you order before end of January.
Should I go into the dealer now and start the haggling? As its January, I imagine they are pretty desperate for sales just following Christmas. Or should I sit on the car wow offer and go into the dealer the last weekend of January?
Any advice would be appreciated
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It won't hurt to start haggling, especially as they're not far off in terms of price anyway. I'd be happy with the difference in order to be able to buy from a known dealer locally, and indeed had a similar decision to make as you. I got my local dealer closer to the DtD number and despite them not fully being able to match it I bought local anyway, as the cost difference didn't justify travelling away from a dealer that's walking distance! This was after using CarWow and DtD, and going to 4-5 VW dealerships in easy driving distance.
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500 quid difference between DTD and your dealer?
DTD you need to pick up from Kent, possibly worth 500 quid to you for not having to drive there? (I don't mean cost, I just mean hassle)
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Thanks for the advice
Im all for getting it from my local dealer. Its 7 miles from my house so ideal. Just wondered if any wiggle room to hammer down the price a bit. Ive called my dealer and going in after work at 5 today to crunch the numbers.
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The Carwow figures can be negotiable if you push them gently. I was able to get a few extra hundred quid off by asking.
If they know you're a serious buyer, some will do it, some won't. Only one way to find out!
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That finance offer will continue after January i am sure - they always do.
Whats sort of finance figures does this deal create?
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Im all for getting it from my local dealer. Its 7 miles from my house so ideal. Just wondered if any wiggle room to hammer down the price a bit. Ive called my dealer and going in after work at 5 today to crunch the numbers.
Just give them the DTD price, say you'd sooner buy local because you like them (*ahem*) and its only 500 different, can they do something about the final 500. If they say no, ask for a token movement towards it, maybe halfway and save you the journey.
January is a bad sales time for car dealers. Say you'll sign before end of the week if they meet your haggle :D
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Im all for getting it from my local dealer. Its 7 miles from my house so ideal. Just wondered if any wiggle room to hammer down the price a bit. Ive called my dealer and going in after work at 5 today to crunch the numbers.
Just give them the DTD price, say you'd sooner buy local because you like them (*ahem*) and its only 500 different, can they do something about the final 500. If they say no, ask for a token movement towards it, maybe halfway and save you the journey.
January is a bad sales time for car dealers. Say you'll sign before end of the week if they meet your haggle :D
I'd suggest similar but a slightly different tact - you'd rather buy local but £500 is £500...
"But sir, it will cost you £150 to collect it from Kent (DtD)."
"So reduce your price by £350 and show me where to sign!"
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They'll probably tell you that they'll throw in a tank of fuel (which you should get anyway) or some mats (which you do get anyway) or paint protection (yuk!) for half price or cheaper gap insurance (that costs 5 times the price of someone else's) or some other crap that you don't want and isn't worth 500 quid!
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Ive said the only extra I want is the 2 year service plan which is 149. This is the deal sweetner i want thrown in for free. Will update once I get back tonight
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Some things they can do, some things they can't. I suspect the servicing they won't give you.
I know its weird, but its all about different buckets that the money comes from in the same bank account...
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Here we go.
They matched carwow. Invoice price 29114 - 1500 vw deposit is 27614
2000 down from me then 366 a month for 4 years, 8k miles per year, final balloon 11880
I have been told this is the absolute lowest. They shrugged off drive the deal pricing and wanted a proper quote - how do I do this? I tried the advice, said I want to buy from you, instead of another dealer so how about we meet in the middle. Nothing. Only negotiating for 1 hour so I'm hoping there is still room.
Drive the deal invoice is 28558 so my dealer is 550 off drive the deal.
4 month wait for the car at the moment. Nothing in stock on my spec.
I haven't gone for any deal sweetners, for example haven't asked for a full tank or see what they can do about throwing in a 2 year service plan at 149.
Quote is valid till the end of the month.
Any advice, Im not usually good at this kind of thing, please help!
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The one thing that you have to understand with Vw dealers is that the price they pay for the vehicle is not the same all over. They get different discounts depending on the numbers they contract to sell... So maybe your dealer can't get right down to dtd price.
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That's what they were saying, they cannot go lower and would walk away from the deal. Is that sales talk or have I hit their lowest?
What do you think on a deal sweetner, is a full tank acceptable? I understand from another post the service plan may not be available to ask for.
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Try a different dealer, tell them you spec and your that maximum budget is £350 per month with £2k deposit, if you can't be bothered to shop around anymore tell this dealer that you'll do a deal at £360 per month, that more or less splits the difference between their offer and DTD.
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I'd negotiate with the cheapest or most local Carwow dealer, and ask them to try and match DTD.
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I'd negotiate with the cheapest or most local Carwow dealer, and ask them to try and match DTD.
These guys are the most local and the cheapest out of the 5 offers funnily enough. I will try haggling again and see where I get to.
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Are you dealing with fleet sales or a forecourt salesperson?
If your dealer doesn't have a fleet sales dept, that might explain why they have less margin to offer.
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Are you dealing with fleet sales or a forecourt salesperson?
If your dealer doesn't have a fleet sales dept, that might explain why they have less margin to offer.
Salesperson who keeps going back to his managers office and coming back
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Are you dealing with fleet sales or a forecourt salesperson?
If your dealer doesn't have a fleet sales dept, that might explain why they have less margin to offer.
Salesperson who keeps going back to his managers office and coming back
I hate that!! Why can't the manager just come out and do the deal or not.
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DTD price includes road tax at the new April rates where I not sure dealers always does. Worth confirming as I’ve had a dealer match DTD then add £500. Just a thought.
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Got a quote from another dealer around 50 miles away and they couldn't get close. Then tried a dealer 174 miles away and they could only do 200 quid cheaper. Not worth the hassle getting there and back etc.
Went back to my local dealer again - 7 miles away - and we checked the stock cars again. There was a Performance Pack, 5 door, DSG, keyless, Isaac blue on the boat on its way over. Bravo - I'll take that! Exactly what I wanted apart from the colour, however when viewing an Isaac blue in the showroom, such a nice colour and still dark which is what I was after. Contrasts the red gti trim perfectly.
Dealer wouldn't budge on the car wow price, so tried to get them to throw in the service plan and they wouldn't. Agreed the dealer will put a full tank in for me, deal done. 15.3% off list price on pcp with vw.
I could collect the car end of this month, but I'm in no rush and would seem silly not to wait just another few weeks till 1st March for an 18 plate collection.
Plus gives my detailer time to get into the dealership and give it a ceramic coating before collection.
Roll on 1st March!
Thanks for all the advice guys, really appreciate it.
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Got a quote from another dealer around 50 miles away and they couldn't get close. Then tried a dealer 174 miles away and they could only do 200 quid cheaper. Not worth the hassle getting there and back etc.
Went back to my local dealer again - 7 miles away - and we checked the stock cars again. There was a Performance Pack, 5 door, DSG, keyless, Isaac blue on the boat on its way over. Bravo - I'll take that! Exactly what I wanted apart from the colour, however when viewing an Isaac blue in the showroom, such a nice colour and still dark which is what I was after. Contrasts the red gti trim perfectly.
Dealer wouldn't budge on the car wow price, so tried to get them to throw in the service plan and they wouldn't. Tax is included already. Agreed the dealer will put a full tank in for me, deal done.
15.3% off list price on pcp with vw.
I could collect the car end of this month, but I'm in no rush and would seem silly not to wait just another few weeks till 1st March for an 18 plate collection.
Plus gives my detailer time to get into the dealership and give it a ceramic coating before collection.
Roll on 1st March! :laugh: :grin:
Thanks for all the advice guys, really appreciate it.
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Result! Not sure I'd wait until March though.
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Not sure I could wait until March either lol.
Well done though, whilst some would have gone to any length to drive the last pennies out the deal, you got a pretty good deal and locally convenient. My time and hassle is worth more than money, I don't know about you :D
Isaac Blue is nice, better than black IMHO but I'd have gone with Atlantic Blue now I've seen a GTI in that.
Don't forget to buy the service pack... and don't add it to the PCP if you can, pay cash for it.
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Thanks guys, I was wondering about waiting till March.
I've never picked up a brand new car at the beginning of a plate cycle before. What would make you say not to wait?
I've added the service plan and paying separately for it, monthly's aren't affected by it.
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Nothing more than just the wait - The reg number isn't something that bothers me - rather have the car then know it's sat in the corner of a dealers storage area.
Although showing that much restraint is quite a virtue. :grin:
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I’m taking delivery tomorrow of mine. Sod waiting til March 1st.
It’s still a 2018 reg, just not an 18reg.
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Fair enough I understand the points
I mean if the car was avaliable in the next week or so then probably would get it sooner. But its on the boat and wont be in till end of Jan. Due to work I cant collect till first weekend of february anyway. They said i can come and check it once it arrives so will see if i can restrain at that point
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I waited last year, bought the car the car the on the 30th December and could have collected the middle of January but decided to wait. Car was kept in Grimsby port until the middle of February.
Seen a PP in your colour a while ago and it looked fantastic. You won't be disappointed with it.
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I’m taking delivery tomorrow of mine. Sod waiting til March 1st.
It’s still a 2018 reg, just not an 18reg.
Ditto 😁 Picked mine up last Friday and your “it’s still a 2018” reg thinking was exactly the conclusion I came too as well rather than waiting until Mar 1st which was my original plan.
Enjoy tomorrow 👍
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Its arrived at the dealers
Went down to see it, Isaac Blue is stunning, absolutely blown away and over the moon.
Saw it both in sunshine and shade. Lovely grey/ dark blue that really pops with the metallic flake. The red pin stripe pops beautifully on the front.
Roll on 1st March!
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Congrats...Sounds great. Im not bothered about plates as I always put my own on lol.
I like the silver white or is it white silver lol.
Pity VW don't offer different leather colours.