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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Boulton on 13 December 2017, 23:09

Title: Mk7 GTI Tyres
Post by: Boulton on 13 December 2017, 23:09
Was wondering if you could all help me out. Just had my first puncture in the new car after under 3000 miles (just my luck). Does anyone have any experience of how much VW will charge for and to fit new P Zeros?And whether it’s worth getting it done somewhere else?

Oh and from reading everyone’s raves about the Michelin Supersports. Potentially a better option?
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI Tyres
Post by: Watts on 13 December 2017, 23:16
Can't it be repaired then? Blackcircles worth a go, you can price up online and if you want to use a maindealer then you'll have an idea if their's is a good price. Last time I looked on Blackcircles they were about £150 each for 19s.
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI Tyres
Post by: Boulton on 14 December 2017, 00:03
Can't it be repaired then? Blackcircles worth a go, you can price up online and if you want to use a maindealer then you'll have an idea if their's is a good price. Last time I looked on Blackcircles they were about £150 each for 19s.

That’s a good point, I’m not sure. I know VW will try and sell me the world. So may check with a Kwik fit beforehand if it can be repaired.
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI Tyres
Post by: davyk31 on 14 December 2017, 07:19
Try a decent independent tyre place. They are more likely to repair if it’s pissible. The big places will be in target to sell new Tyres.
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI Tyres
Post by: Guzzle on 14 December 2017, 08:51
Agree with Davy.

I'd be looking on the interweb for tyre prices first, then try a decent independent tyre fitter to see if your damaged tyre is repairable. They're more likely to look after you (and your wheels) than a Kwik Fit type establishment.

If you don't know any local independent tyre fitters, try putting your postcode in on Black Circles or Mytyres websites.
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI Tyres
Post by: fredgroves on 14 December 2017, 08:55
Money on it a VW dealer won't repair a puncture, only replace the tyre...

I wouldn't go anywhere near a main dealer for tyres though ever. Pretty much any of the tyre specialists are a better bet.

Don't forget to pay special attention to the state of your wheels before they swap the rubber though... perfectly possible they will damage your easily damaged wheels!
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI Tyres
Post by: silver38 on 14 December 2017, 09:24
Blackcircles currently have a money off offer on Michelin tyres.
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI Tyres
Post by: Daz Auto on 14 December 2017, 09:58
That’s a good point, I’m not sure. I know VW will try and sell me the world. So may check with a Kwik fit beforehand if it can be repaired.
Did the tyre go flat? Was it driven on? If so, this could damage the sidewall and the rims.

1 of my tyres was repairable and 2 of my wife's tyres were not fixable. The puncture must be a least 1 inch from the sidewall.

It is explained on the Kwikfit website - https://www.kwik-fit.com/tyres/information/tyre-repair (https://www.kwik-fit.com/tyres/information/tyre-repair)

(https://www.kwik-fit.com/assets/images/major-minor-repair-areas.jpg)
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI Tyres
Post by: SRGTD on 14 December 2017, 10:13
Don't forget to pay special attention to the state of your wheels before they swap the rubber though... perfectly possible they will damage your easily damaged wheels!

^This.

Ensure you agree the condition of your wheels with whoever you go to to get the puncture repaired or tyre replaced, and take photos of your wheels. If your wheels are diamond cut, they’re very easily damaged by poorly maintained tyre fitting equipment or a careless tyre fitter, and a good diamond cut wheel refurbishment is likely to cost in the region of £80-90 plus VAT.

OP; If you do need a new tyre, IMO it’s better to buy your tyres from somewhere like Camskill or Love Tyres on line at a good price, and then pay a local independent tyre fitting firm with a good reputation to fit them.

https://www.camskill.co.uk
http://lovetyres.com
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI Tyres
Post by: 2007GTI on 14 December 2017, 10:48
Kwik Fit Mobile fitting is around 15% cheaper than going to actual fitting place. I have used them twice recently and both times excellent.
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI Tyres
Post by: Daz Auto on 14 December 2017, 10:57
Was wondering if you could all help me out. Just had my first puncture in the new car after under 3000 miles (just my luck). Does anyone have any experience of how much VW will charge for and to fit new P Zeros?And whether it’s worth getting it done somewhere else?

Oh and from reading everyone’s raves about the Michelin Supersports. Potentially a better option?
If it cannot be repaired...

Golf Owners Manual -

New Tyres - page 281

- All 4 wheels must be fitted with tyres of the same type, size and the same tread pattern.
- Always replace tyres on an axle-by-axle basis at the very least.

I mention the above because it is recommended to replace tyres in pairs. This is because a new tyre should not be used beside a worn tyre as they will have different levels of grip. Also different makes and models of tyre will have different levels of grip.

There are people here who would replace both tyres. However, providing the other tyre on the same axle has only done 3000miles and is not noticeably worn - you could purchase another tyre of the same make and model. Then fit them to the rear axle of the car.

Note: this advice is worth exactly what you paid for it. Follow it at your own risk.
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI Tyres
Post by: fredgroves on 14 December 2017, 11:02
Someone should have offered that advice to the (very large national) lease company who ran my company cars for the last 25 years.

Got a puncture? Whats the cheapest tyre in stock?

Sure if it was wear then usually the fronts and backs wear the same amount, but any other time, slap whatever on.

At one point on my previous non-Golf I actually had 4 different tyres....
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI Tyres
Post by: Daz Auto on 14 December 2017, 11:23
At one point on my previous non-Golf I actually had 4 different tyres....
Bloke at work used to fit part worn tyres. When he crashed he blamed the tyres :rolleyes:

Golf Owners Manual - p280

Useful information about wheels and tyres

Introduction

"Tyres are the most used and most underestimated parts of a vehicle. Tyres are very important as the narrow tyre surfaces are the only contact between the vehicle and the road."
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI Tyres
Post by: fredgroves on 14 December 2017, 11:47
Maybe its only Golfs that applies to, my 4 different tyres car was a Ford :D :D
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI Tyres
Post by: Boulton on 14 December 2017, 12:31
Thanks for your help. Turns out tyre can’t be repaired after taking it to a local tyre specialist. They’re quoting £155 to fit the new P Zeros. Im going to do some shopping around. Does anyone know the actual size of the tyres as I haven’t got the car at the moment? It’s a Mk 7.5 sitting on 19” Brescias. Cheers.
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI Tyres
Post by: Guzzle on 14 December 2017, 12:38
For 19 inch Brescia's it should be 225/35/19
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI Tyres
Post by: Daz Auto on 14 December 2017, 12:39
Thanks for your help. Turns out tyre can’t be repaired after taking it to a local tyre specialist. They’re quoting £155 to fit the new P Zeros. Im going to do some shopping around. Does anyone know the actual size of the tyres as I haven’t got the car at the moment? It’s a Mk 7.5 sitting on 19” Brescias. Cheers.
You will also want the load and speed rating.
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI Tyres
Post by: dubber36 on 14 December 2017, 14:36
I've always preferred to buy my tyres from the place that I trust to fit them. It might cost a bit more than buying off the internet and taking the tyre to them, however I think they may be a bit reluctant to spent as much time as might be needed to carefully fit and balance a tyre that they are making no money on.
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI Tyres
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 14 December 2017, 21:53
Be very careful with KwikFit - very bad experiences in the past, including trying to say a puncture couldn't be repaired at one branch and another branch 2 miles away repaired it no problems! They are expensive as well.

I've 2 punctures in 3 months on my Mk7.5, last one needed a new tyre as was right on the sidewall.   :sad:
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI Tyres
Post by: Mustabuster on 15 December 2017, 08:51
I've always preferred to buy my tyres from the place that I trust to fit them. It might cost a bit more than buying off the internet and taking the tyre to them, however I think they may be a bit reluctant to spent as much time as might be needed to carefully fit and balance a tyre that they are making no money on.

I'm sure they would get a commision or fitting fee from the tyre seller. Otherwise there would be no incentive for them to be part of the scheme at all.
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI Tyres
Post by: dubber36 on 15 December 2017, 16:46
I was referring to SRGTD's comment really.

You are correct, the do earn a fitting fee from the likes of Blackcircles or Mytyres, but not as much as they would make if they were to provide the tyres from their regular suppliers. I suppose it all brings people in through the doors and helps to keep the lights on.
Title: Re: Mk7 GTI Tyres
Post by: Dr Mike Oxgreen on 15 December 2017, 19:42
When I was a Corporate drone with a company car we had to use Kwik Fit.  I would never use them by choice and wouldn't let them near any car of mine.

I have no patience with tyre fitters or garages in general who don't respect other peoples property, especially if that person is the paying customer.  I once saw a fitter at what I thought was a well-known and therefore respected tyre dealer throw a Ferrari alloy across the floor of the fitting bay.

Recently I have bought my own tyres from Costco, who have been excellent.  They don't use airguns if you ask them not to, they wash the wheels inside and out, and generally behave as though they care.  They only supply and fit Michelin and Bridgestone tyres, but as it happens my recent Golf TDi, Honda S2000 and current GTi needed Michelin and Bridgestone tyres. 

I can only speak for my local Costco branch, but I can recommend them.  Their pricing is the icing on the cake.